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[MGrand15]

I don't think picks are as easy to buy as they used to be. Teams also consider 31-40 to be late first rounders. I think at this point, only 50-60 is for sale. Those are normally guys you can sign straight to summer league.

Don't see the point of trading our pick for a future pick. We don't need talent but we do need to keep adding youth and trying to find good, long term pieces for cheap. Last pick in the 1st round is perfect for that. Whether we go 82-0 or 0-82 next year - it never hurts to have a young guy locked up for 4 years and the chepeast amount possible

[Prokorov]

I don't think picks are as easy to buy as they used to be. Teams also consider 31-40 to be late first rounders. I think at this point, only 50-60 is for sale. Those are normally guys you can sign straight to summer league.

Don't see the point of trading our pick for a future pick. We don't need talent but we do need to keep adding youth and trying to find good, long term pieces for cheap. Last pick in the 1st round is perfect for that. Whether we go 82-0 or 0-82 next year - it never hurts to have a young guy locked up for 4 years and the chepeast amount possible

we arent losing that young talent. we are maximizing what it is and extending that rookie salary out further. id rather have a rookie taken with a higher pick, whose contract runs furhter into the future, while gaining flexibilty in 16-17 when we will need it a whole lot more.

im not suggesting trading the 29th pick for a 35 year old guy. im suggesting we make the most of it, get a better pick by pushing it further into the future.

this is the type of discipline and petiance we need. we need to let joe expire. we need to pass on an extension for brook. we need to let mirza walk. we need to preserve the cap space we get by being discipline, and then we need to add good assets and flexibility to the cap space.

[MGrand15]

The salary of a rookie taken 29th or 30th isn't going to effect our flexibility. I don't think trading the 30th pick for a future pick with heavy protections is patience. It's just punting unless we get a significantly higher draft slot (which wouldn't happen unless Billy King is trading with Billy King). If we want to extend that salary further, we can send the player overseas or draft an international guy.

I don't think your scenario is very likely anyway. Teams aren't trading 1st round picks for the last pick in the 1st round. I understand the idea - just don't think it's worth it.

[Prokorov]

The salary of a rookie taken 29th or 30th isn't going to effect our flexibility. I don't think trading the 30th pick for a future pick with heavy protections is patience. It's just punting unless we get a significantly higher draft slot (which wouldn't happen unless Billy King is trading with Billy King). If we want to extend that salary further, we can send the player overseas or draft an international guy.

I don't think your scenario is very likely anyway. Teams aren't trading 1st round picks for the last pick in the 1st round. I understand the idea - just don't think it's worth it.

teams without picks are always looking to get into the first round. late or not. punting is the smart move when you are looking to remake your team 2 years down the road. stockpile assets then, dont use them now. and give yourself the chance that they improve.

drafting an itnernational player and stashing him isnt bad, but that doenst give us trade flexibility gaining a 16/18 pick would.

people see us going all in for free agency in 16-17, i dont think thats how it will be, i think offs are we make at least 1 big trade for a high priced player were we will need to send pick assets and cap space. we will have the space, we cant trade any firsts. thats an issue imo.

[CalamityX12]

how often is it that a team trades a future 15-20 first rd pick for the 29th or 30th?

[CalamityX12]

This isn't football, where that happens all the time

[CalamityX12]

teams would rather buy a late first than trading a future first that could land anywhere from 15-20 for such a late pick, the nba talent isn't strong and can be hit or miss in the late first.

[Prokorov]

how often is it that a team trades a future 15-20 first rd pick for the 29th or 30th?

doesnt need to be 15-20. could be 20-25. either way there are more benefits then just moving the pick up in the draft. gaining trade flexibility and trade assets for when we have cap space isnt something that should just be dismissed.

[Prokorov]

teams would rather buy a late first than trading a future first that could land anywhere from 15-20 for such a late pick, the nba talent isn't strong and can be hit or miss in the late first.

first round picks dont get sold any longer. with the new CBA that no longer occurs

[CalamityX12]

teams would rather buy a late first than trading a future first that could land anywhere from 15-20 for such a late pick, the nba talent isn't strong and can be hit or miss in the late first.

first round picks dont get sold any longer. with the new CBA that no longer occurs

oh... why did I think someone bought it last draft, my bad.

[CalamityX12]

how often is it that a team trades a future 15-20 first rd pick for the 29th or 30th?

doesnt need to be 15-20. could be 20-25. either way there are more benefits then just moving the pick up in the draft. gaining trade flexibility and trade assets for when we have cap space isnt something that should just be dismissed.

I was speaking more for pick for pick...

obviously, yes we could attach it to so n so or such n such.

but yea, if there's not someone good or potential, boom or bust, I would trade it for next years draft....

it reminds me when Lou the gm of the devils decided that forfeiting the 29th pick of the draft was unnecessary... what a dumbass...