FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

[Bobbyydee]

- Draft Okafor
- Trade conditional 2nd rounder for Lance Stephenson (short cheap deal, fills a need and high upside)
- Spend remaining cap space on Beverly, Ed Davis, and Darrell Arthur

Beverly/Calderon
Lance/Galloway
Melo/THJ
Davis/Arthur
Okafor/Cole

My friend, I see where you are going with this, yet help me out with some of the moves which may sound good but seem to defy the direction in which the Knicks seem to want to go in:

-Tobias Harris seems to be on New York's radar and the Knicks are on his, almost to the point that if this were July 1, 2015, I think he would be signed, sealed, and delivered to NY. By all accounts, Harris wants to be part of what Phil and Fish are doing, feels somewhat "thwarted" by the Orlando system, wants to play in the Mecca, is a close friend of Carmelo's and Harris is about as perfect a complimentary piece to the Knick's new line-up next season and for seasons to com—averaging 18 PPG on 48%. 8 RPG. Harris is only 22 years old and is, in my opinion, tailor made for New York.

-I may be in the minority here, but the Knicks may have caught lightening in a bottle in their backcourt. I'll include Langston Gallaway for next season, but I am handing over the keys to Phil's car to our pair of 6'7 guards who I think may be something special, not to mention. may be the ticket for Jose Calderon's train out of New York! You never know, but Shved as well as Ledo, may just be what the doctor ordered! No matter what, Shane Larkin has also shown incredible speed, defensive prowess, and those 11 assists didn't get lost on me.

if the New York Knicks want to maximize spending this summer as well as 2016's summer, I understand that there are many ways to skin that cat, LOL. Yet we need to look at our new centers, especially if Jackson selects Okafor. There is no way that I am questioning this kid's post moves or ability to score, but I must admit that whenever I think of this kid, I think about his FT%, his reportedly lackadaisical defensive efforts, and of most concern, his physical conditioning.

On the other hand, I've also heard that Jahlil is a franchise changer and when I look at these Knicks, no other squad in my life-time has needed rebuilding as this New York team needs,,,,

Bro like your write up, I also think Thanis may work his way up to start as SG cause of his defence. I mean if he gives us 70% of his brothers output we can solve the perimeter d. Please read a peace by Alex kenndedy on OK4 they kid understands what it takes to win and lazy is not part of it at all. As Stephen A will say kids like Okafor don't come around all the time. Melo and Fish likes him and he is prepared to work you pick him, period! Due to our cap space Shved should be paid the minimum. We have alternatives in Ledo and Thanisis if Phil signeds Afflalo or Harris

[And100]

- Draft Okafor
- Trade conditional 2nd rounder for Lance Stephenson (short cheap deal, fills a need and high upside)
- Spend remaining cap space on Beverly, Ed Davis, and Darrell Arthur

Beverly/Calderon
Lance/Galloway
Melo/THJ
Davis/Arthur
Okafor/Cole

My friend, I see where you are going with this, yet help me out with some of the moves which may sound good but seem to defy the direction in which the Knicks seem to want to go in:

-Tobias Harris seems to be on New York's radar and the Knicks are on his, almost to the point that if this were July 1, 2015, I think he would be signed, sealed, and delivered to NY. By all accounts, Harris wants to be part of what Phil and Fish are doing, feels somewhat "thwarted" by the Orlando system, wants to play in the Mecca, is a close friend of Carmelo's and Harris is about as perfect a complimentary piece to the Knick's new line-up next season and for seasons to com—averaging 18 PPG on 48%. 8 RPG. Harris is only 22 years old and is, in my opinion, tailor made for New York.

-I may be in the minority here, but the Knicks may have caught lightening in a bottle in their backcourt. I'll include Langston Gallaway for next season, but I am handing over the keys to Phil's car to our pair of 6'7 guards who I think may be something special, not to mention. may be the ticket for Jose Calderon's train out of New York! You never know, but Shved as well as Ledo, may just be what the doctor ordered! No matter what, Shane Larkin has also shown incredible speed, defensive prowess, and those 11 assists didn't get lost on me.

if the New York Knicks want to maximize spending this summer as well as 2016's summer, I understand that there are many ways to skin that cat, LOL. Yet we need to look at our new centers, especially if Jackson selects Okafor. There is no way that I am questioning this kid's post moves or ability to score, but I must admit that whenever I think of this kid, I think about his FT%, his reportedly lackadaisical defensive efforts, and of most concern, his physical conditioning.

On the other hand, I've also heard that Jahlil is a franchise changer and when I look at these Knicks, no other squad in my life-time has needed rebuilding as this New York team needs,,,,

Bro like your write up, I also think Thanis may work his way up to start as SG cause of his defence. I mean if he gives us 70% of his brothers output we can solve the perimeter d. Please read a peace by Alex kenndedy on OK4 they kid understands what it takes to win and lazy is not part of it at all. As Stephen A will say kids like Okafor don't come around all the time. Melo and Fish likes him and he is prepared to work you pick him, period! Due to our cap space Shved should be paid the minimum. We have alternatives in Ledo and Thanisis if Phil signeds Afflalo or Harris

Afflalo is terrible. His PER is below ten. He has BAD defensive ratings. He's living of a reputation he never actually earned.

[Johnny Hoops]

Kanter would seem to reflect a little bit of what Okafor might be about in the NBA --- putting up nice stats and giving it back up on the other end.

[brooklynoxy]

- Draft Okafor
- Trade conditional 2nd rounder for Lance Stephenson (short cheap deal, fills a need and high upside)
- Spend remaining cap space on Beverly, Ed Davis, and Darrell Arthur

Beverly/Calderon
Lance/Galloway
Melo/THJ
Davis/Arthur
Okafor/Cole

My friend, I see where you are going with this, yet help me out with some of the moves which may sound good but seem to defy the direction in which the Knicks seem to want to go in:

-Tobias Harris seems to be on New York's radar and the Knicks are on his, almost to the point that if this were July 1, 2015, I think he would be signed, sealed, and delivered to NY. By all accounts, Harris wants to be part of what Phil and Fish are doing, feels somewhat "thwarted" by the Orlando system, wants to play in the Mecca, is a close friend of Carmelo's and Harris is about as perfect a complimentary piece to the Knick's new line-up next season and for seasons to com—averaging 18 PPG on 48%. 8 RPG. Harris is only 22 years old and is, in my opinion, tailor made for New York.

-I may be in the minority here, but the Knicks may have caught lightening in a bottle in their backcourt. I'll include Langston Gallaway for next season, but I am handing over the keys to Phil's car to our pair of 6'7 guards who I think may be something special, not to mention. may be the ticket for Jose Calderon's train out of New York! You never know, but Shved as well as Ledo, may just be what the doctor ordered! No matter what, Shane Larkin has also shown incredible speed, defensive prowess, and those 11 assists didn't get lost on me.

if the New York Knicks want to maximize spending this summer as well as 2016's summer, I understand that there are many ways to skin that cat, LOL. Yet we need to look at our new centers, especially if Jackson selects Okafor. There is no way that I am questioning this kid's post moves or ability to score, but I must admit that whenever I think of this kid, I think about his FT%, his reportedly lackadaisical defensive efforts, and of most concern, his physical conditioning.

On the other hand, I've also heard that Jahlil is a franchise changer and when I look at these Knicks, no other squad in my life-time has needed rebuilding as this New York team needs,,,,

Bro like your write up, I also think Thanis may work his way up to start as SG cause of his defence. I mean if he gives us 70% of his brothers output we can solve the perimeter d. Please read a peace by Alex kenndedy on OK4 they kid understands what it takes to win and lazy is not part of it at all. As Stephen A will say kids like Okafor don't come around all the time. Melo and Fish likes him and he is prepared to work you pick him, period! Due to our cap space Shved should be paid the minimum. We have alternatives in Ledo and Thanisis if Phil signeds Afflalo or Harris

Thank you for the compliment, not to mention guiding me to that information on the Alex Kennedy write-up as it relates to Jah' and understanding Kennedy's piece in what it takes to win, is truly what it's all about these days. I definitely want to see our 'Tenacious" guard who also sacrificed a few hundred thousand to learn how to best defend against NBA level competition. I think that out of any of our prospects, this kid may be extremely unique in what his sacrifices ended out to be...

One thing is certain—this draft and free agency period will be like no other, LOL!

[BowlRips]

Im all for trading for Lance. Charlotte wants him gone.
They would need to take Calderon for him; no if ands or butts.

If we are drafting Okafor in your scenario, we swing a trade for Taj Gibson. Tim Hardaway for Taj is interesting as bulls save a ton of money and add a shooter off the bench. Tim would excel with Bulls cause Tibs would force him to play d.

Sign Jeremy Lin to be backup guard for $4mil a year.
Give Tobias Harris $10mil a year
Alex Ajinca $4mil a year
Sign Corey Joseph with MMLE for 2.5 mil


Solid 9 man rotation of

Okafor / Ajinca
Gibson / Harris
Melo / Harris
Lance / Lin
Galloway / Joseph

not a bad team at all. pretty deep and can mesh well. could definitely use another shooter. all fits under the cap

Got to think that everybody would take this lineup.
I am a Towns fan, but this is something realistic that can be done

[Bobbyydee]

My friend, I see where you are going with this, yet help me out with some of the moves which may sound good but seem to defy the direction in which the Knicks seem to want to go in:

-Tobias Harris seems to be on New York's radar and the Knicks are on his, almost to the point that if this were July 1, 2015, I think he would be signed, sealed, and delivered to NY. By all accounts, Harris wants to be part of what Phil and Fish are doing, feels somewhat "thwarted" by the Orlando system, wants to play in the Mecca, is a close friend of Carmelo's and Harris is about as perfect a complimentary piece to the Knick's new line-up next season and for seasons to com—averaging 18 PPG on 48%. 8 RPG. Harris is only 22 years old and is, in my opinion, tailor made for New York.

-I may be in the minority here, but the Knicks may have caught lightening in a bottle in their backcourt. I'll include Langston Gallaway for next season, but I am handing over the keys to Phil's car to our pair of 6'7 guards who I think may be something special, not to mention. may be the ticket for Jose Calderon's train out of New York! You never know, but Shved as well as Ledo, may just be what the doctor ordered! No matter what, Shane Larkin has also shown incredible speed, defensive prowess, and those 11 assists didn't get lost on me.

if the New York Knicks want to maximize spending this summer as well as 2016's summer, I understand that there are many ways to skin that cat, LOL. Yet we need to look at our new centers, especially if Jackson selects Okafor. There is no way that I am questioning this kid's post moves or ability to score, but I must admit that whenever I think of this kid, I think about his FT%, his reportedly lackadaisical defensive efforts, and of most concern, his physical conditioning.

On the other hand, I've also heard that Jahlil is a franchise changer and when I look at these Knicks, no other squad in my life-time has needed rebuilding as this New York team needs,,,,

Bro like your write up, I also think Thanis may work his way up to start as SG cause of his defence. I mean if he gives us 70% of his brothers output we can solve the perimeter d. Please read a peace by Alex kenndedy on OK4 they kid understands what it takes to win and lazy is not part of it at all. As Stephen A will say kids like Okafor don't come around all the time. Melo and Fish likes him and he is prepared to work you pick him, period! Due to our cap space Shved should be paid the minimum. We have alternatives in Ledo and Thanisis if Phil signeds Afflalo or Harris

Thank you for the compliment, not to mention guiding me to that information on the Alex Kennedy write-up as it relates to Jah' and understanding Kennedy's piece in what it takes to win, is truly what it's all about these days. I definitely want to see our 'Tenacious" guard who also sacrificed a few hundred thousand to learn how to best defend against NBA level competition. I think that out of any of our prospects, this kid may be extremely unique in what his sacrifices ended out to be...

One thing is certain—this draft and free agency period will be like no other, LOL!

I really like Jah and his dad for doing a good job I wanna see them succeed. Credit is not given to Dads who put in the work to raise their children. I like Affalo if we get Miller to mentor the young guards they had a good thing in Denver and want them to have one more shot defense wins championhsip but in the playoffs you need someone who can score besides Melo and I like the Harris acquisition even if he starts from the bench as a 3rd option scorer, his family our knick fans and he wants to come here.

[And100]

I really like Jah and his dad for doing a good job I wanna see them succeed. Credit is not given to Dads who put in the work to raise their children.

As a dad myself doing your absolute best is the bare minimum requirement. You bring a kid into the world, you take responsibility, period.

No thanks or credit required.

I like Affalo

Afflalo stinks

[siar617]

When is Mathews expected back

[mugzi]

We need young two way players, no reclamation projects. I'd love to hear the defense chant at msg again mean something again.

[CoolKids]

- Draft Okafor
- Trade conditional 2nd rounder for Lance Stephenson (short cheap deal, fills a need and high upside)
- Spend remaining cap space on Beverly, Ed Davis, and Darrell Arthur

Beverly/Calderon
Lance/Galloway
Melo/THJ
Davis/Arthur
Okafor/Cole

My friend, I see where you are going with this, yet help me out with some of the moves which may sound good but seem to defy the direction in which the Knicks seem to want to go in:

-Tobias Harris seems to be on New York's radar and the Knicks are on his, almost to the point that if this were July 1, 2015, I think he would be signed, sealed, and delivered to NY. By all accounts, Harris wants to be part of what Phil and Fish are doing, feels somewhat "thwarted" by the Orlando system, wants to play in the Mecca, is a close friend of Carmelo's and Harris is about as perfect a complimentary piece to the Knick's new line-up next season and for seasons to com—averaging 18 PPG on 48%. 8 RPG. Harris is only 22 years old and is, in my opinion, tailor made for New York.

-I may be in the minority here, but the Knicks may have caught lightening in a bottle in their backcourt. I'll include Langston Gallaway for next season, but I am handing over the keys to Phil's car to our pair of 6'7 guards who I think may be something special, not to mention. may be the ticket for Jose Calderon's train out of New York! You never know, but Shved as well as Ledo, may just be what the doctor ordered! No matter what, Shane Larkin has also shown incredible speed, defensive prowess, and those 11 assists didn't get lost on me.

if the New York Knicks want to maximize spending this summer as well as 2016's summer, I understand that there are many ways to skin that cat, LOL. Yet we need to look at our new centers, especially if Jackson selects Okafor. There is no way that I am questioning this kid's post moves or ability to score, but I must admit that whenever I think of this kid, I think about his FT%, his reportedly lackadaisical defensive efforts, and of most concern, his physical conditioning.

On the other hand, I've also heard that Jahlil is a franchise changer and when I look at these Knicks, no other squad in my life-time has needed rebuilding as this New York team needs,,,,

yea just what the doctor ordered for another lottery finish.

[humbertomakris]

rondo (free agent)
wes mathews (free agent)
melo
gibson (trade calderon & hardaway)
okafor/towns (draft)

shved /larkin
ledo / doron lamb
thanasis / early
amundson / smith
barganani (minimun) / aldrich

Dunno how the contracrs work to be honest, would dream of this lineup definately a playoff contender

[newyorker4ever]

danny green is one of my top free agent targets at 9-12 mil. Such a good defender (can guard 3 positions) and three point shooter with championship experience and also from new york... pls sign him phil

I agree that Danny Green should be a top target, but not for $9-12 million per year. That's a HUGE overpay for a solid role player. Green is putting up 12 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists in just shy of 30 min per game with the Spurs. I think Green's deal should start in the $6-7 million range. A 4 year deal starting at $7 million with 4.5% raises brings the contract value to just shy of $30 million. The average annual salary of $7.5 million is higher than the highest year in Wes Matthews and Aaron Afflalo's current deals.

The key with signing players is not overpaying so the players remain trade assets in the future. Danny Green at $7-8 million can be traded for value. Danny Green at $10-12 million is not.

Other affordable players that could should be targeted are Kosta Kufos, Brandon Bass and DeMare Carroll. Bass and Carroll would allow NYK to play Carmelo in a similar role to what Miami did with Lebron, Hasslem and Battier. Neither Bass or Carroll should cost more than the mid level on a short term deal and you may be able to get Bass with the room exception. Kufos signed to a reasonable deal ($5-7 million for 2-3 years) becomes another trade chip moving forward.

There's nothing sexy or spectacular about it, but an off season where we signed Green, Kufos, Carroll and Bass to contracts without overpaying while adding a quality rookie would be great.

One last thing, I would try to get creative with a short term Reggie Jackson contract. He struggled in OKC but has put up monster numbers with Detroit the past month. If we offered the full max for 2 years guaranteed with a team option and small guarantee for the 3rd year it could get interesting. I'd offer Jackson a 3 year deal starting at $15.85 million (full max) worth just shy of $50 million but with only $2 million of the final year guaranteed. While paying Jackson an average of $16.2 million for 2 years is aggressive ($17.2 million if you include the guaranteed part of the 3rd year) there is no long term commitment if it doesn't work out.

Kufos
Anthony
Carroll
Green
Jackson

with Bass, Hardaway, Calderon and the draft pick off the bench is a very very solid 9 man rotation and should win 45-50 games and be a mid tier playoff team that walks into the 2016 off season with a full max slot open and quality role players on fair market contracts that can be moved in trades.

Your numbers are way off on D.Carroll. He's gonna get a nice payday with this next contract and even though I think your numbers on D.Green should be right at around 8 million I think he's gonna get overpaid by a team with his next contract. I hope Phil plays it smart in free agency with the money he ends up giving out. Even though we've obviously waited way to long to have a competitive team in New York, I'd rather wait another year or two instead of giving out another bad contract.

[newyorker4ever]

danny green is one of my top free agent targets at 9-12 mil. Such a good defender (can guard 3 positions) and three point shooter with championship experience and also from new york... pls sign him phil

I agree that Danny Green should be a top target, but not for $9-12 million per year. That's a HUGE overpay for a solid role player. Green is putting up 12 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists in just shy of 30 min per game with the Spurs. I think Green's deal should start in the $6-7 million range. A 4 year deal starting at $7 million with 4.5% raises brings the contract value to just shy of $30 million. The average annual salary of $7.5 million is higher than the highest year in Wes Matthews and Aaron Afflalo's current deals.

The key with signing players is not overpaying so the players remain trade assets in the future. Danny Green at $7-8 million can be traded for value. Danny Green at $10-12 million is not.

Other affordable players that could should be targeted are Kosta Kufos, Brandon Bass and DeMare Carroll. Bass and Carroll would allow NYK to play Carmelo in a similar role to what Miami did with Lebron, Hasslem and Battier. Neither Bass or Carroll should cost more than the mid level on a short term deal and you may be able to get Bass with the room exception. Kufos signed to a reasonable deal ($5-7 million for 2-3 years) becomes another trade chip moving forward.

There's nothing sexy or spectacular about it, but an off season where we signed Green, Kufos, Carroll and Bass to contracts without overpaying while adding a quality rookie would be great.

One last thing, I would try to get creative with a short term Reggie Jackson contract. He struggled in OKC but has put up monster numbers with Detroit the past month. If we offered the full max for 2 years guaranteed with a team option and small guarantee for the 3rd year it could get interesting. I'd offer Jackson a 3 year deal starting at $15.85 million (full max) worth just shy of $50 million but with only $2 million of the final year guaranteed. While paying Jackson an average of $16.2 million for 2 years is aggressive ($17.2 million if you include the guaranteed part of the 3rd year) there is no long term commitment if it doesn't work out.

Kufos
Anthony
Carroll
Green
Jackson

with Bass, Hardaway, Calderon and the draft pick off the bench is a very very solid 9 man rotation and should win 45-50 games and be a mid tier playoff team that walks into the 2016 off season with a full max slot open and quality role players on fair market contracts that can be moved in trades.

We can probably land Afflao at a starting salary of 8 or 9 million, but Green would probably be in the 10-12 range this summer. For that difference in price I prefer Afflalo.

I dont want Afflalo as a starter on the Knicks unless he's surrounded by a stacked team and we don't have to depend on him for scoring and we can count on him to give us good defense. I'd rather have D.Green at a reasonable price over Afflalo because we need a dangerous shooter at the 2 spot if you ask me, but Green at 12 million.....no thank you.

[newyorker4ever]

How much cap space are we expected to have this summer?

From what I've seen the most is after we put the draft money aside and after the contracts we already have guaranteed for next season in the end we'll have around 25 million for free agency but I don't know for sure.

[newyorker4ever]

- Draft Okafor
- Trade conditional 2nd rounder for Lance Stephenson (short cheap deal, fills a need and high upside)
- Spend remaining cap space on Beverly, Ed Davis, and Darrell Arthur

Beverly/Calderon
Lance/Galloway
Melo/THJ
Davis/Arthur
Okafor/Cole

I can't figure out why anyone would want L.Stephenson on the Knicks? He's another JR Smith that brings unwanted and bad attention to the team. No thank you. I'll take team players that don't play up for the camera's and just want to be good teammates and play solid team basketball.

[newyorker4ever]

- Draft Okafor
- Trade conditional 2nd rounder for Lance Stephenson (short cheap deal, fills a need and high upside)
- Spend remaining cap space on Beverly, Ed Davis, and Darrell Arthur

Beverly/Calderon
Lance/Galloway
Melo/THJ
Davis/Arthur
Okafor/Cole

My friend, I see where you are going with this, yet help me out with some of the moves which may sound good but seem to defy the direction in which the Knicks seem to want to go in:

-Tobias Harris seems to be on New York's radar and the Knicks are on his, almost to the point that if this were July 1, 2015, I think he would be signed, sealed, and delivered to NY. By all accounts, Harris wants to be part of what Phil and Fish are doing, feels somewhat "thwarted" by the Orlando system, wants to play in the Mecca, is a close friend of Carmelo's and Harris is about as perfect a complimentary piece to the Knick's new line-up next season and for seasons to com—averaging 18 PPG on 48%. 8 RPG. Harris is only 22 years old and is, in my opinion, tailor made for New York.

-I may be in the minority here, but the Knicks may have caught lightening in a bottle in their backcourt. I'll include Langston Gallaway for next season, but I am handing over the keys to Phil's car to our pair of 6'7 guards who I think may be something special, not to mention. may be the ticket for Jose Calderon's train out of New York! You never know, but Shved as well as Ledo, may just be what the doctor ordered! No matter what, Shane Larkin has also shown incredible speed, defensive prowess, and those 11 assists didn't get lost on me.

if the New York Knicks want to maximize spending this summer as well as 2016's summer, I understand that there are many ways to skin that cat, LOL. Yet we need to look at our new centers, especially if Jackson selects Okafor. There is no way that I am questioning this kid's post moves or ability to score, but I must admit that whenever I think of this kid, I think about his FT%, his reportedly lackadaisical defensive efforts, and of most concern, his physical conditioning.

On the other hand, I've also heard that Jahlil is a franchise changer and when I look at these Knicks, no other squad in my life-time has needed rebuilding as this New York team needs,,,,

Bro like your write up, I also think Thanis may work his way up to start as SG cause of his defence. I mean if he gives us 70% of his brothers output we can solve the perimeter d. Please read a peace by Alex kenndedy on OK4 they kid understands what it takes to win and lazy is not part of it at all. As Stephen A will say kids like Okafor don't come around all the time. Melo and Fish likes him and he is prepared to work you pick him, period! Due to our cap space Shved should be paid the minimum. We have alternatives in Ledo and Thanisis if Phil signeds Afflalo or Harris

Did anyone watch the program they had on after the Knicks v Pacers game last night that was the sit down with Phil and Mills did with the season ticket holders? At one point Phil slipped when he was talking about big men that were drafted high and ended up being busts and he said Okafor instead of Olawakandi?? Kinda funny that when he had his mind talking about centers who busted in the NBA that OK4's name slipped out of his mouth.

[omerome]

My friend, I see where you are going with this, yet help me out with some of the moves which may sound good but seem to defy the direction in which the Knicks seem to want to go in:

-Tobias Harris seems to be on New York's radar and the Knicks are on his, almost to the point that if this were July 1, 2015, I think he would be signed, sealed, and delivered to NY. By all accounts, Harris wants to be part of what Phil and Fish are doing, feels somewhat "thwarted" by the Orlando system, wants to play in the Mecca, is a close friend of Carmelo's and Harris is about as perfect a complimentary piece to the Knick's new line-up next season and for seasons to com—averaging 18 PPG on 48%. 8 RPG. Harris is only 22 years old and is, in my opinion, tailor made for New York.

-I may be in the minority here, but the Knicks may have caught lightening in a bottle in their backcourt. I'll include Langston Gallaway for next season, but I am handing over the keys to Phil's car to our pair of 6'7 guards who I think may be something special, not to mention. may be the ticket for Jose Calderon's train out of New York! You never know, but Shved as well as Ledo, may just be what the doctor ordered! No matter what, Shane Larkin has also shown incredible speed, defensive prowess, and those 11 assists didn't get lost on me.

if the New York Knicks want to maximize spending this summer as well as 2016's summer, I understand that there are many ways to skin that cat, LOL. Yet we need to look at our new centers, especially if Jackson selects Okafor. There is no way that I am questioning this kid's post moves or ability to score, but I must admit that whenever I think of this kid, I think about his FT%, his reportedly lackadaisical defensive efforts, and of most concern, his physical conditioning.

On the other hand, I've also heard that Jahlil is a franchise changer and when I look at these Knicks, no other squad in my life-time has needed rebuilding as this New York team needs,,,,

Bro like your write up, I also think Thanis may work his way up to start as SG cause of his defence. I mean if he gives us 70% of his brothers output we can solve the perimeter d. Please read a peace by Alex kenndedy on OK4 they kid understands what it takes to win and lazy is not part of it at all. As Stephen A will say kids like Okafor don't come around all the time. Melo and Fish likes him and he is prepared to work you pick him, period! Due to our cap space Shved should be paid the minimum. We have alternatives in Ledo and Thanisis if Phil signeds Afflalo or Harris

Did anyone watch the program they had on after the Knicks v Pacers game last night that was the sit down with Phil and Mills did with the season ticket holders? At one point Phil slipped when he was talking about big men that were drafted high and ended up being busts and he said Okafor instead of Olawakandi?? Kinda funny that when he had his mind talking about centers who busted in the NBA that OK4's name slipped out of his mouth.

Yep I noticed. To be fair, the other OK4 was a bust, too. But yeah, it was a good program.

[newyorker4ever]

We need young two way players, no reclamation projects. I'd love to hear the defense chant at msg again mean something again.

After watching the full sit down Phil and Mills had with the season ticket holders last night I think that two way players are exactly what they're looking for.

[Johnny Hoops]

We need young two way players, no reclamation projects. I'd love to hear the defense chant at msg again mean something again.

After watching the full sit down Phil and Mills had with the season ticket holders last night I think that two way players are exactly what they're looking for.

On top of that -- there was a point where Hahn asked Phil if he could describe what our future team would look like on the floor.

In his answer Phil chose to reference the Red Holtzman era Knicks and he said Red was able to take a bunch of younger players and give them time to learn to play with each other and develop. He referenced being able to mold players to the point where they are able to sacrifice their own game for the better good of the team and that all of this needs to occur before we even talk about the triangle.

What I took away from his comments is that he is going to target younger free agents -- guys who with our #1 pick will have time to mature/grow/learn/evolve together. That would point to guys like Monroe, Harris, Jackson, Knight, etc.

[omerome]

On top of that -- there was a point where Hahn asked Phil if he could describe what our future team would look like on the floor.

In his answer Phil chose to reference the Red Holtzman era Knicks and he said Red was able to take a bunch of younger players and give them time to learn to play with each other and develop. He referenced being able to mold players to the point where they are able to sacrifice their own game for the better good of the team and that all of this needs to occur before we even talk about the triangle.

What I took away from his comments is that he is going to target younger free agents -- guys who with our #1 pick will have time to mature/grow/learn/evolve together. That would point to guys like Monroe, Harris, Jackson, Knight, etc.

Yeah, but hopefully not those players though. Phil emphasized how important defense is to winning a championship. None of those guys are known as good defenders.

I do like the direction we're thinking about going. It's refreshing to see a man with a clear vision and isn't going for the quick fix.