Game 79: Suns at Mavs

SunsRback4Good · Post #21 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 4:18 am

Tucker has been great this season much better than last and yet some people still despise him. Only on realgm, I guess.

Jdiddy701 · Post #22 » by **Jdiddy701** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 4:24 am

SunsReadyToRoll wrote:Tucker has been great this season much better than last and yet some people still despise him. Only on realgm, I guess.

A lot of people fall in love with his hustle. That's all he has. Warren is million times better than Tucker. What's the point of playing PJ Tucker right now?

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tdjm · Post #23 » by **tdjm** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 4:27 am

I definitely fall into the camp of disliking Tucker. His game is too incomplete, and the good teams take advantage and punish you for it. He doesn't have enough going for him to be a legitimate NBA starter. He's a bandaid.

I absolutely love how he outrebounds his position, though.

JTrain · Post #24 » by **JTrain** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 4:28 am

JTrain · Post #25 » by **JTrain** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 4:32 am

If Tucker started making the bus, stopped arguing with random fans on social media and stopped complaining after every call, he would make a great sixth man for us.

SunsRback4Good · Post #26 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 4:33 am

Jdiddy701 wrote:
SunsReadyToRoll wrote:Tucker has been great this season much better than last and yet some people still despise him. Only on realgm, I guess.

A lot of people fall in love with his hustle. That's all he has. Warren is million times better than Tucker. What's the point of playing PJ Tucker right now?

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You know what on contending teams he's great guy off the bench who brings intensity and hustle. But on this team he has played his heart out for us all year and has better numbers than last season. I don't understand all the hate and why you would choose Warren over Tucker when he hasn't proved to even be a starter. Warren could be and will likely be better than Tucker with all said and done but at this point I'm going with Tucker. I love his nonstop intensity and he brings in day in and night even if he doesnt average 15 ppg he brings defense the Suns desperately need both him and Bled are great backcourt duo I just wish we had better offensive after the trade.

SunsRback4Good · Post #27 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 4:34 am

JTrain wrote:If Tucker started making the bus, stopped arguing with random fans on social media and stopped complaining after every call, he would make a great sixth man for us.

I feel like if Tucker didn't receive a DUI or miss the bus a few times than maybe JDiddy along with others would appreciate him more.

LukasBMW · Post #28 » by **LukasBMW** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 4:44 am

Regardless of what happens in free agency and the draft, this team needs to bring on 2 veteran guys who know how to win and will be positive locker room influences.

At least one of the vets should be a former allstar so the guys respect him. No one is going to listen to a vet scrub like Anthony Tolliver, but everyone is going to listen to a washed up former winner like Grant Hill or Steve Nash.

Jdiddy701 · Post #29 » by **Jdiddy701** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 4:46 am

Wow totally forgot about Anthony Tolliver lol

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saintEscaton · Post #30 » by **saintEscaton** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 5:19 am

Well thats the wrap folks. Statistically eliminated from playoff contention, but no surprise there.

Post #31 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 5:44 am

Jdiddy701 wrote:
SunsReadyToRoll wrote:Tucker has been great this season much better than last and yet some people still despise him. Only on realgm, I guess.

A lot of people fall in love with his hustle. That's all he has. Warren is million times better than Tucker. What's the point of playing PJ Tucker right now?

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What's the point of playing Bledsoe? What's the point of playing Marcus?

letsgosuns · Post #32 » by **letsgosuns** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 6:40 am

I have never disliked a Suns team more than this current team. In fact, I have never really disliked a Suns team. There were certain players and coaches I really did not like such as Matt Barnes, Randy Livingston, and Lindsey Hunter. However I have never truly been more disappointed with an entire team top to bottom than this horror of a roster. I say after decades of watching basketball that this is the most disgusting group of basketball players I have ever seen. I do not blame the front office. They had no way of knowing how awful this roster could possibly be or how insane the coach was going to be to continue to play these losers.

I hope Bledsoe, Green, Tucker, the Morris brothers, and the entire coaching staff is off the team next year. I do not know how else I can continue to root for them otherwise. I hope people that work for the Suns read this message board. I have spent so much money going to Suns games and buying Suns memorabilia for so long and I cannot bare to watch my favorite team destroy itself. I know I am not the only one that feels this way. I talk to people all the time about this team and they agree with me. Even extremely optimistic fans and people that are casual fans say this is the dumbest group of players they remember seeing in any sport.

Please change this roster. I do not care about the losing. I care about how they lose. Losing is fine if you are going with a super young team that is building for your future and you believe that they are improving. Losing with guys like the lineups Hornacek puts out there in crunch time when you have Warren and Goodwin sitting on the bench not learning anything is a disaster. It is an inexcusable thing for a coach to do. I do not know what else to say. I wish I was more hopeful like some fans are who think the Morris brothers are good players. I do not believe it. I think they are awful with a capital A. No matter what their stats are, they are total idiots that have the basketball iq of a peanut. Same with Tucker. And unfortunately, same with Hornacek. 11-19 in their past 30 games and only getting worse, not better. I knew the Morris brothers were insane when Marcus had a psychotic breakdown and lashed out at Hornacek. I knew Hornacek was soft when he never disciplined Marcus for what he did. And I knew the team was full of losers once Markieff blamed the fans for losing to the Spurs instead of blaming themselves for not playing better. What a shame this year has become. Such a bad time for this organization. This coming offseason is probably the biggest I can remember for a team that is desperate to win its fans back.

Revived · Post #33 » by **Revived** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 6:54 am

Jdiddy701 wrote:I can't believe some of you love Tucker. He's not good.

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I remember when everyone bashed sundeuce when he said this all last season.

pidi · Post #34 » by **pidi** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 11:14 am

letsgosuns wrote:I have never disliked a Suns team more than this current team. In fact, I have never really disliked a Suns team. There were certain players and coaches I really did not like such as Matt Barnes, Randy Livingston, and Lindsey Hunter. However I have never truly been more disappointed with an entire team top to bottom than this horror of a roster. I say after decades of watching basketball that this is the most disgusting group of basketball players I have ever seen. I do not blame the front office. They had no way of knowing how awful this roster could possibly be or how insane the coach was going to be to continue to play these losers.

I hope Bledsoe, Green, Tucker, the Morris brothers, and the entire coaching staff is off the team next year. I do not know how else I can continue to root for them otherwise. I hope people that work for the Suns read this message board. I have spent so much money going to Suns games and buying Suns memorabilia for so long and I cannot bare to watch my favorite team destroy itself. I know I am not the only one that feels this way. I talk to people all the time about this team and they agree with me. Even extremely optimistic fans and people that are casual fans say this is the dumbest group of players they remember seeing in any sport.

Please change this roster. I do not care about the losing. I care about how they lose. Losing is fine if you are going with a super young team that is building for your future and you believe that they are improving. Losing with guys like the lineups Hornacek puts out there in crunch time when you have Warren and Goodwin sitting on the bench not learning anything is a disaster. It is an inexcusable thing for a coach to do. I do not know what else to say. I wish I was more hopeful like some fans are who think the Morris brothers are good players. I do not believe it. I think they are awful with a capital A. No matter what their stats are, they are total idiots that have the basketball iq of a peanut. Same with Tucker. And unfortunately, same with Hornacek. 11-19 in their past 30 games and only getting worse, not better. I knew the Morris brothers were insane when Marcus had a psychotic breakdown and lashed out at Hornacek. I knew Hornacek was soft when he never disciplined Marcus for what he did. And I knew the team was full of losers once Markieff blamed the fans for losing to the Spurs instead of blaming themselves for not playing better. What a shame this year has become. Such a bad time for this organization. This coming offseason is probably the biggest I can remember for a team that is desperate to win its fans back.

come on, we´re not on the baddest way with this team. still got some things to improve but we have the money to do so... we are lacking a veteran leadership who takes this team under his wings. i wouldn´t even mind to oversell a veteran presence..

and we need some size, markieff is not the pf that brings you to the promised land, bledsoe isn´t the pg.. but they are still young and will improve

Saberestar · Post #35 » by **Saberestar** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 11:38 am

SF88 wrote:
Jdiddy701 wrote:I can't believe some of you love Tucker. He's not good.

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I remember when everyone bashed sundeuce when he said this all last season.

He is a great player to have on your roster...playing around 18-20 minutes per game. At their salary, I think Wright and Tucker are good players to backup SF and C.

Revived · Post #36 » by **Revived** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 10:12 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:
Jdiddy701 wrote:
SunsReadyToRoll wrote:Tucker has been great this season much better than last and yet some people still despise him. Only on realgm, I guess.

A lot of people fall in love with his hustle. That's all he has. Warren is million times better than Tucker. What's the point of playing PJ Tucker right now?

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What's the point of playing Bledsoe? What's the point of playing Marcus?

Because Bledsoe is a young player that may still grow and shows signs of it sometimes.

No idea on Marcus. Warren >>> Tucker, Marcus

Revived · Post #37 » by **Revived** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 10:15 pm

DirtyDez wrote:How does Bledsoe miss a WIDE open PJ in his corner sweet spot? I swear man.......

You must have missed the game, Tucker was bricking wide open 3s all game long. Van Gundy was laughing at how many wide open opportunities he had.

There was nothing "sweet" about his shooting in this game.

DirtyDez · Post #38 » by **DirtyDez** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:02 am

SF88 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:How does Bledsoe miss a WIDE open PJ in his corner sweet spot? I swear man.......

You must have missed the game, Tucker was bricking wide open 3s all game long. Van Gundy was laughing at how many wide open opportunities he had.

There was nothing "sweet" about his shooting in this game.

What happened earlier in the game is irrelevant. A wide open PJ 3 is a better shot than Bledsoe throwing up a contensted prayer. Eric needs to see that.

Cutter · Post #39 » by **Cutter** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:24 am

SunsReadyToRoll wrote:
Jdiddy701 wrote:
SunsReadyToRoll wrote:Tucker has been great this season much better than last and yet some people still despise him. Only on realgm, I guess.

A lot of people fall in love with his hustle. That's all he has. Warren is million times better than Tucker. What's the point of playing PJ Tucker right now?

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You know what on contending teams he's great guy off the bench who brings intensity and hustle. But on this team he has played his heart out for us all year and has better numbers than last season. I don't understand all the hate and why you would choose Warren over Tucker when he hasn't proved to even be a starter. Warren could be and will likely be better than Tucker with all said and done but at this point I'm going with Tucker. I love his nonstop intensity and he brings in day in and night even if he doesnt average 15 ppg he brings defense the Suns desperately need both him and Bled are great backcourt duo I just wish we had better offensive after the trade.

We can always play Tucker at the 2, with Warren at the 3. It seems that the times we had Bled at PG and Tucker at SG we had good defensive games. This leaves Archie with reduce minutes.

RunDogGun · Post #40 » by **RunDogGun** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:47 am

Cutter wrote:
SunsReadyToRoll wrote:
Jdiddy701 wrote:
A lot of people fall in love with his hustle. That's all he has. Warren is million times better than Tucker. What's the point of playing PJ Tucker right now?

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You know what on contending teams he's great guy off the bench who brings intensity and hustle. But on this team he has played his heart out for us all year and has better numbers than last season. I don't understand all the hate and why you would choose Warren over Tucker when he hasn't proved to even be a starter. Warren could be and will likely be better than Tucker with all said and done but at this point I'm going with Tucker. I love his nonstop intensity and he brings in day in and night even if he doesnt average 15 ppg he brings defense the Suns desperately need both him and Bled are great backcourt duo I just wish we had better offensive after the trade.
We can always play Tucker at the 2, with Warren at the 3. It seems that the times we had Bled at PG and Tucker at SG we had good defensive games. This leaves Archie with reduce minutes.

It all depends on what moves we make. We could run a Knight, Tucker, Warren group and still have good minutes for Goodwin, if we happen to trade Bledsoe and the twins for a star big.