FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

[Johnny Hoops]

On top of that -- there was a point where Hahn asked Phil if he could describe what our future team would look like on the floor.

In his answer Phil chose to reference the Red Holtzman era Knicks and he said Red was able to take a bunch of younger players and give them time to learn to play with each other and develop. He referenced being able to mold players to the point where they are able to sacrifice their own game for the better good of the team and that all of this needs to occur before we even talk about the triangle.

What I took away from his comments is that he is going to target younger free agents -- guys who with our #1 pick will have time to mature/grow/learn/evolve together. That would point to guys like Monroe, Harris, Jackson, Knight, etc.

Yeah, but hopefully not those players though. Phil emphasized how important defense is to winning a championship. None of those guys are known as good defenders.

I do like the direction we're thinking about going. It's refreshing to see a man with a clear vision and isn't going for the quick fix.

Me personally - if we get lucky enough to get Towns --- I'd have no problem with Monroe + Knight or Jackson as our 2 free agents.

I just don't think there are going to be a bunch of other stars wanting our $$$ this year.

At the very least we'd have 3 core guys who are 24 or < and all 3 would fit in the triangle mold.

[Bobbyydee]

How about this bench?

PG, Galloway
G, Thanisis/Shved
C Amudson/Copeland
PF T-Robinson
F Tobias Harrison

Add Dleague Willis Reed, Thomas, Ledo. Now lets see what Phil will do for the starting 5 with Melo

Fire Energy, perimeter defence, scoring rebounding and pure fire Its all about the bench baby! in my Dick Vitale voice

[Dan Z]

Bro like your write up, I also think Thanis may work his way up to start as SG cause of his defence. I mean if he gives us 70% of his brothers output we can solve the perimeter d. Please read a peace by Alex kenndedy on OK4 they kid understands what it takes to win and lazy is not part of it at all. As Stephen A will say kids like Okafor don't come around all the time. Melo and Fish likes him and he is prepared to work you pick him, period! Due to our cap space Shved should be paid the minimum. We have alternatives in Ledo and Thanisis if Phil signeds Afflalo or Harris

Did anyone watch the program they had on after the Knicks v Pacers game last night that was the sit down with Phil and Mills did with the season ticket holders? At one point Phil slipped when he was talking about big men that were drafted high and ended up being busts and he said Okafor instead of Olawakandi?? Kinda funny that when he had his mind talking about centers who busted in the NBA that OK4's name slipped out of his mouth.

Yep I noticed. To be fair, the other OK4 was a bust, too. But yeah, it was a good program.

Emeka Okafor had a solid career until he got injured. He isn't a bust.

[Ris_44]

Actually Okafor might be a good sign if we draft his younger cousin. He could teach him how to play defense in the NBA. He might not have been one of the great centers drafted with a top pick, but he is definetly not a bust. He was a good defender who rebounded well and was a good shot blocker.

[newyorker4ever]

On top of that -- there was a point where Hahn asked Phil if he could describe what our future team would look like on the floor.

In his answer Phil chose to reference the Red Holtzman era Knicks and he said Red was able to take a bunch of younger players and give them time to learn to play with each other and develop. He referenced being able to mold players to the point where they are able to sacrifice their own game for the better good of the team and that all of this needs to occur before we even talk about the triangle.

What I took away from his comments is that he is going to target younger free agents -- guys who with our #1 pick will have time to mature/grow/learn/evolve together. That would point to guys like Monroe, Harris, Jackson, Knight, etc.

Yeah, but hopefully not those players though. Phil emphasized how important defense is to winning a championship. None of those guys are known as good defenders.

I do like the direction we're thinking about going. It's refreshing to see a man with a clear vision and isn't going for the quick fix.

Me personally - if we get lucky enough to get Towns --- I'd have no problem with Monroe + Knight or Jackson as our 2 free agents.

I just don't think there are going to be a bunch of other stars wanting our $$$ this year.

At the very least we'd have 3 core guys who are 24 or < and all 3 would fit in the triangle mold.

I don't think it will be about if the stars want our $$$ because the star players aren't gonna leave the teams they're on now.

[Bklyn&company]

Yeah, but hopefully not those players though. Phil emphasized how important defense is to winning a championship. None of those guys are known as good defenders.

I do like the direction we're thinking about going. It's refreshing to see a man with a clear vision and isn't going for the quick fix.

Me personally - if we get lucky enough to get Towns --- I'd have no problem with Monroe + Knight or Jackson as our 2 free agents.

I just don't think there are going to be a bunch of other stars wanting our $$$ this year.

At the very least we'd have 3 core guys who are 24 or < and all 3 would fit in the triangle mold.

I don't think it will be about if the stars want our $$$ because the star players aren't gonna leave the teams they're on now.

Kinda feel the same.. and most top players are RFA's .... don't think Phil will want to over pay using his cap.

But might have a chance with some (not many) good vets:
Paul Millsap (Dont think ATL pockets are deep)
Danny Green
Wesley Matthews
Greg Monroe
Aaron Afflafo (don't want)
LMA (Silm chance, East is easier, knicks add player option)
Demarre Carroll
Kevin Love
Thad Young
Robin Lopez
And others...

[KingzAndQueenz]

No one's been talking about Dragic that much. The Heat aren't too hot this year. Any chance he leaves and we can sign him?

[mugzi]

I think the Heat overpaid for him and will overpay to keep him, Dragic isnt worth it over 11-12 mil a year, 5 yr deal with the 5th a team option is what the Knicks should offer but the Heat will max him out imo.

[CoolKids]

On top of that -- there was a point where Hahn asked Phil if he could describe what our future team would look like on the floor.

In his answer Phil chose to reference the Red Holtzman era Knicks and he said Red was able to take a bunch of younger players and give them time to learn to play with each other and develop. He referenced being able to mold players to the point where they are able to sacrifice their own game for the better good of the team and that all of this needs to occur before we even talk about the triangle.

What I took away from his comments is that he is going to target younger free agents -- guys who with our #1 pick will have time to mature/grow/learn/evolve together. That would point to guys like Monroe, Harris, Jackson, Knight, etc.

Yeah, but hopefully not those players though. Phil emphasized how important defense is to winning a championship. None of those guys are known as good defenders.

I do like the direction we're thinking about going. It's refreshing to see a man with a clear vision and isn't going for the quick fix.

Me personally - if we get lucky enough to get Towns --- I'd have no problem with Monroe + Knight or Jackson as our 2 free agents.

I just don't think there are going to be a bunch of other stars wanting our $$$ this year.

At the very least we'd have 3 core guys who are 24 or < and all 3 would fit in the triangle mold.

ew dude.

[NoLayupRule]

No one's been talking about Dragic that much. The Heat aren't too hot this year. Any chance he leaves and we can sign him?

the guy I want to take from the heat is Deng

he's got a player option and would be fantastic for us

[NoLayupRule]

Me personally - if we get lucky enough to get Towns --- I'd have no problem with Monroe + Knight or Jackson as our 2 free agents.

I just don't think there are going to be a bunch of other stars wanting our $$$ this year.

At the very least we'd have 3 core guys who are 24 or < and all 3 would fit in the triangle mold.

If we land Towns and we strike out on LMA, Gasol and Green then Monroe wouldn't be a bad call, assuming its not too high a contract

Jackson I don't think fits

Deng is ideal especially with the triangle and smaller ball being the new NBA
Danny Green impresses me and Id like to add him to the list along with Mathews and Affalo.

If we miss out on all those guys - Butler and Lenard too - then I think Milsap is the top priority

[Johnny Hoops]

Yeah, but hopefully not those players though. Phil emphasized how important defense is to winning a championship. None of those guys are known as good defenders.

I do like the direction we're thinking about going. It's refreshing to see a man with a clear vision and isn't going for the quick fix.

Me personally - if we get lucky enough to get Towns --- I'd have no problem with Monroe + Knight or Jackson as our 2 free agents.

I just don't think there are going to be a bunch of other stars wanting our $$$ this year.

At the very least we'd have 3 core guys who are 24 or < and all 3 would fit in the triangle mold.

ew dude.

I get it but who are you getting -- legitimately???

[Johnny Hoops]

Me personally - if we get lucky enough to get Towns --- I'd have no problem with Monroe + Knight or Jackson as our 2 free agents.

I just don't think there are going to be a bunch of other stars wanting our $$$ this year.

At the very least we'd have 3 core guys who are 24 or < and all 3 would fit in the triangle mold.

If we land Towns and we strike out on LMA, Gasol and Green then Monroe wouldn't be a bad call, assuming its not too high a contract

Jackson I don't think fits

Deng is ideal especially with the triangle and smaller ball being the new NBA
Danny Green impresses me and Id like to add him to the list along with Mathews and Affalo.

If we miss out on all those guys - Butler and Lenard too - then I think Milsap is the top priority

I'd rather over-pay for a younger player like Knight, Middleton, Jackson than bring in guys that already have 8-10 years of NBA mileage on their bodies.

Even Gasol scares me --- is he ever going to be better than this year? LA -- will he really fit with Melo?

Those are premium guys I get that and I'd be excited by those pick ups but based on Phils recent comments I think he's going to target younger free agents - whether it be by design or out of necessity.

[lloydj]

SF: Melo
C: Okafer or Towns or PF/C Frank Kaminsky
SG: Danny Green 8m
PF: Enes Kanter 10m
PG Cory Joseph 4m or Brandon Knight 9m

PG: Caldron?, Galloway, (Andrew Harrison -Trade 1 second rounders)
SG: Shved?, Hardaway, (Aaron Harrison-Purchase a Late 1st)
C: Bargnani? and/or Javale McGee-vet min
PF: Quincy Acy, ?
SF: Cleanthorny, Derrick Williams-vet min

[Houston99]

guys what about bringing back artest. i know he is pretty much done as a player but we could use his leadership cuz at this point we dont have any. if he can playe a few min a game but mostly sit on the bench and get players fired up.

[Bklyn&company]

Me personally - if we get lucky enough to get Towns --- I'd have no problem with Monroe + Knight or Jackson as our 2 free agents.

I just don't think there are going to be a bunch of other stars wanting our $$$ this year.

At the very least we'd have 3 core guys who are 24 or < and all 3 would fit in the triangle mold.

If we land Towns and we strike out on LMA, Gasol and Green then Monroe wouldn't be a bad call, assuming its not too high a contract

Jackson I don't think fits

Deng is ideal especially with the triangle and smaller ball being the new NBA
Danny Green impresses me and Id like to add him to the list along with Mathews and Affalo.

If we miss out on all those guys - Butler and Lenard too - then I think Milsap is the top priority

I'd rather over-pay for a younger player like Knight, Middleton, Jackson than bring in guys that already have 8-10 years of NBA mileage on their bodies.

Even Gasol scares me --- is he ever going to be better than this year? LA -- will he really fit with Melo?

Those are premium guys I get that and I'd be excited by those pick ups but based on Phils recent comments I think he's going to target younger free agents - whether it be by design or out of necessity.

In the Town Hall meeting Phil mentioned Vets and leadership... didn't really hear anything about "young" anything.... he even joked about getting our pick out of the nursery... maybe I missed something. Watched it twice. I think he would mix it up...

[Bklyn&company]

SF: Melo
C: Okafer or Towns 6m
SG: Danny Green 8m
PF: Enes Kanter 10m
PG Cory Joseph 4m or Brandon Knight 9m

PG: Caldron?, Galloway, (Andrew Harrison -Trade 1 second rounders)
SG: Shved?, Hardaway, (Aaron Harrison-Purchase a Late 1st)
C: Bargnani? and/or Javale McGee-vet min
PF: Quincy Acy, ?
SF: Cleanthorny, Derrick Williams-vet min

Phil mentioned Defense... I don't think Kanter is on top of that list... but who knows..

[Bklyn&company]

Some Info: NBA RPM/WAR
Real Plus-Minus - Shooting Guards

Khris Middleton is ranked #1 for DRPM and #2 for RPM and WAR out of all NBA Shooting Guards only James Harden beats him in both cats.

Danny Green is ranked #5 for DRPM and #4 for RPM and WAR out of all SG's.

Wesley Matthews is ranked #8 for WAR and #10 for DRPM and RPM out of all SG's.

FYI..Klay Thompson is ranked #4 for WAR, reason is because his ORPM is over 4.00, the same for Korver ranked at #3 (4.61).

Out of all NBA Players WAR, Middleton is ranked #11, DGreen is at #17 and WMatthews at #39.

Middleton, DGreen and Wesley Matthews are all definitely players we should be targeting for our SG/SF? Position (s). Hope Phil will reach out to them.

[swisscheeseD]

Simple trade proposal...

NY/MIA : Tim Hardaway Jr. for Mario Chalmers

Timmy has obvious ties to the Heat organization and would be a nice backup to Wade who can limit his minutes and spot-start when needed. Chalmers would be a nice fit in the Triangle, has Championship experience, and would improve our perimeter defense tremendously.

Who says no?

[Jeff Van Gully]

Some Info: NBA RPM/WAR
Real Plus-Minus - Shooting Guards

Khris Middleton is ranked #1 for DRPM and #2 for RPM and WAR out of all NBA Shooting Guards only James Harden beats him in both cats.

Danny Green is ranked #5 for DRPM and #4 for RPM and WAR out of all SG's.

Wesley Matthews is ranked #8 for WAR and #10 for DRPM and RPM out of all SG's.

FYI..Klay Thompson is ranked #4 for WAR, reason is because his ORPM is over 4.00, the same for Korver ranked at #3 (4.61).

Out of all NBA Players WAR, Middleton is ranked #11, DGreen is at #17 and WMatthews at #39.

Middleton, DGreen and Wesley Matthews are all definitely players we should be targeting for our SG/SF? Position (s). Hope Phil will reach out to them.

WAR... what is it good for?