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Heat Hoops: Keeping Our Pick This Year Will Have Long Term Consequences

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Re: Heat Hoops: Keeping Our Pick This Year Will Have Long Term Consequences 

Post#61 » by contract » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:23 am

PaulieWal wrote:I don't have a problem with Riley trading this year's pick if we can retain it what I do have a problem with is being in no man's land. I don't care if we get a top 10 pick and he strikes a deal to get somebody good for that but the posters acting all nonchalant about the pick are being silly. There should be only two options now: tank and draft somebody who fills a need on the roster, tank and trade the pick for a player we have a need for.

Not having the pick at all this year while missing the playoffs will be a disaster.

Pat needs to make a decision. Are we making an all in run next season, or are we biding time until 2016? If we're all in for next season, Dragic and Deng get locked up no matter the cost, and our pick (if we still have it) be it #10 or #1, #2, or #3 gets moved for a veteran player.
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Re: Heat Hoops: Keeping Our Pick This Year Will Have Long Term Consequences 

Post#62 » by RexBoyWonder » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:24 am

DeBrosh wrote:Picks are overrated, and haven't resulted in much under Riley (Butler and Wade aside). I'm all for the "smart" analysis this thread is aiming for: namely, our team is built through FA, trades, and undrafted FA's who over achieve.

The thing is, this is a really good draft, and even all that's gone wrong this season, and assuming Deng and Dragić stay, that's a really good team next year. We don't need a superstar or franchise cornerstone, we just need that young rotation player that we failed to develop during the LeBron years (Cole aside, but LOL). Some guys who might be there at number 10: Winslow, Oubre, Dekker, Looney. If we get even the slightest bit lucky, we could be looking at Mudiay or Stein. Those are all guys that can play right away. All of them, Mudiay aside because I haven't seen anything other than youtube, fit into the Heat's defense, rebounding and positional versatility philosophy (other than Stein but he and Hassan could give us the best defensive rotation in the front court in the NBA).

I don't think we should tank, but if/when we get eliminated today, I think playing the kids for two games and hopefully getting our pick back sets next year's team up nicely. And given the summer of 2016 plan, that's got to be the end goal.


Right, expect for a huge role in every championship we won, picks played no role.
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Re: Heat Hoops: Keeping Our Pick This Year Will Have Long Term Consequences 

Post#63 » by dancing2thabeet » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:10 pm

We need to get the pick, trade it for a good vet, use the MLE on another good vet and land a very good player in 2016. Good good good
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Re: Heat Hoops: Keeping Our Pick This Year Will Have Long Term Consequences 

Post#64 » by greg4012 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:09 pm

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it's been that model for 20 years. Not always the best but always getting players among the best. The heat history extends beyond the big 3....



Thanks, I was unaware. Growing up going to games at the Miami Arena, I didn't realize that was the Miami Heat I was watching because I didn't see the big 3.

Is the reason for your turd-style comments that you have nothing of value or no insight to provide to the conversation?


It's a turd comment cause I called out your idiocy? You claim the Heat's model only works when we get a Lebron type player. Yet they've put a playoff contender on the court for damn near every year for the past 2 decades and little of it had to do with the draft. You must have been watching the games with your head up your ass.

Get over it. Draft picks are just chips to be traded for this team. Short of a lottery pick during a rebuilding year a rookie is pretty much worthless on this team. Keep crying to have one next year so you can start threads about how they aren't featuring him enough.



Why the hell are you so combative? How many straw men can you fit into one post? You've got some major issues you're projecting on to me.

What was turd was "the heat history extends beyond the big 3" comment. You reek of being the guy who thinks you're the only Heat fan that was around before the big 3. As if trading for Shaq in 2004 wasn't making a move for arguably the top player in the NBA.

Heat3 wrote:Yet they've put a playoff contender on the court for damn near every year for the past 2 decades and little of it had to do with the draft.


LMAO. Yea Wade has had very little to do with every playoff run we've made since he's been drafted.



You're not nearly as smart as you think you are. You may have been the big dawg in your FIU classes (or still are? the maturity level of your posts indicates you may still be a teen) but you gotta take it down a notch, all knowing one
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Re: Heat Hoops: Keeping Our Pick This Year Will Have Long Term Consequences 

Post#65 » by King_Supreme » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:40 pm

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PaulieWal wrote:I don't have a problem with Riley trading this year's pick if we can retain it what I do have a problem with is being in no man's land. I don't care if we get a top 10 pick and he strikes a deal to get somebody good for that but the posters acting all nonchalant about the pick are being silly. There should be only two options now: tank and draft somebody who fills a need on the roster, tank and trade the pick for a player we have a need for.

Not having the pick at all this year while missing the playoffs will be a disaster.

Pat needs to make a decision. Are we making an all in run next season, or are we biding time until 2016? If we're all in for next season, Dragic and Deng get locked up no matter the cost, and our pick (if we still have it) be it #10 or #1, #2, or #3 gets moved for a veteran player.


Heat can't really make any moves for this year, because the team is capped out for this year and has no assets(sans Whiteside)
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Re: Heat Hoops: Keeping Our Pick This Year Will Have Long Term Consequences 

Post#66 » by Revived » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:08 pm

I don't think Miami's 2019 first rd pick will have that much value.
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Re: Heat Hoops: Keeping Our Pick This Year Will Have Long Term Consequences 

Post#67 » by Mukesh » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:33 am

If Miami wins the last two games (Orlando, Philly) and Utah loses the last two games (Dallas, Houston) who will get the 10th worst record for draft purposes? Both teams will finish with the same record and they both beat each other in head to head matches.
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Re: Heat Hoops: Keeping Our Pick This Year Will Have Long Term Consequences 

Post#68 » by shanedude » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:05 am

Mukesh wrote:If Miami wins the last two games (Orlando, Philly) and Utah loses the last two games (Dallas, Houston) who will get the 10th worst record for draft purposes? Both teams will finish with the same record and they both beat each other in head to head matches.


coin toss. But Utah is winning tonight so it wont happen
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