Brett Lawrie's Historically Bad Night at the Plate

Santoki · Post #21 » by **Santoki** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:37 am

Hinskie managed to stick around the league for over a decade and get a couple of bench guy World Series rings. And now he's already a 1B coach for the Cubs. Not bad for a guy who never even came close to his potential.

-MetA4- · Post #22 » by **-MetA4-** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:01 pm

g.muresan wrote:Two words:
Eric. Hinske.

What? They aren't even remotely similar. Lawrie isn't "wide-bodied"; he's muscularly athletic whereas Hinske was just thick built (and later progressed to fat). Hinske was also never anywhere near as athletic as Lawrie.

Hinske was never expected to become anything significant. He was a 17th round pick out of a major D1 school (ie: he wasn't just "hidden") who surprised his way up to the majors by becoming a pretty decent albeit far from elite prospect. The ROY season was a pure fluke, and you see it a lot with new hitters who come up where MLB pitchers don't bother trying to overly dissect them. The regression that you saw afterwards wasn't Hinske "disappointing", it was him simply regressing back his actual talent level.

Kurtz · Post #23 » by **Kurtz** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:26 pm

I thought that comparison was for Hinske/Donaldson, in that Bean did it to us again type of thing...

Mehar · Post #24 » by **Mehar** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:40 am

g.muresan wrote:Two words:
Eric. Hinske.

Parallels:
- dealt between Toronto and Oakland
- wide bodied 3rd baseman
- "on base freak with speed and power"
- such a promising rookie season, SO much hope
- fizzle out within 3 years

Right now- Lawrie is playing well, but the season is early. Wish him all the best in Oakland, but that Donaldson trade is not as one-sided as people think if some of those prospects, as well as Lawrie, can fulfill their full potential. The Jays should worry more about their 82 M dollar catcher (heavily backloaded) not coming through as of yet; and being historically bad in his first 24 at bats hitting .053. Lawrie had one bad night at the plate, but Martin has had one bad week. Season is still early.

Skin Blues · Post #25 » by **Skin Blues** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:56 pm

Hitting .053 in 24 PAs is not historically bad. Short of striking out in all 24 at-bats, nothing you could possibly do would be historically bad. He's walking 11% of the time and has an 0.071 BABIP. Let's keep our fingers off the panic button.