Both Kings And Cousins Hinting At Possible Offseason Trade.

RealRapsFan · Post #181 » by **RealRapsFan** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:31 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:If Boogie does indeed get traded it's a shame, the Kings are turning into a joke.

I'm not sure 'turning' is the word you are looking for here.

'are'

'have been for years'

'continue to be'

are probably better fits

:lol:

nrockwaychicago · Post #182 » by **nrockwaychicago** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:34 pm

There's no story here but you fools will eat it up regardless

Litany · Post #183 » by **Litany** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:44 pm

RIPskaterdude wrote:
Catchall wrote:Truthfully, he might look pretty good next to Gobert. Don't think the Jazz would trade Favors though...mmm. It's the attitude issue.

Favors + Hood + future pick?

I think that's fair, but not sure the Jazz would do it, tbh.

You're joking, right? The Jazz would personally send their private plane ASAP to Sacramento for Cousins if the Kings took that deal. Which they would never do. Ever.

If the Jazz trade Favors for Cousins I'll lose my mind. They aren't dumb enough to do it though, so I don't have anything to worry about. I want nothing to do with Cousins on my team.

Coach after coach and more and more people confirming that this kid has issues and people continue making excuses for him. Can't wait for him to go to a new team and see the same old crap there and we wont get to just blame the Kings and the endless list of people that have problems with Cousins.

TaylorMonkey · Post #184 » by **TaylorMonkey** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:48 pm

Cousins for David Lee and Harrison Barnes.

Vivek loves ex-Warriors.

sdballer · Post #185 » by **sdballer** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:35 pm

Lattimer wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:
Catchall wrote:Truthfully, he might look pretty good next to Gobert. Don't think the Jazz would trade Favors though...mmm. It's the attitude issue.

Favors + Hood + future pick?

I think that's fair, but not sure the Jazz would do it, tbh.

You're joking, right? The Jazz would personally send their private plane ASAP to Sacramento for Cousins if the Kings took that deal. Which they would never do. Ever.

If the Jazz trade Favors for Cousins I'll lose my mind. They aren't dumb enough to do it though, so I don't have anything to worry about. I want nothing to do with Cousins on my team.

Coach after coach and more and more people confirming that this kid has issues and people continue making excuses for him. Can't wait for him to go to a new team and see the same old crap there and we wont get to just blame the Kings and the endless list of people that have problems with Cousins.

You mean like calipari who loves him. Or coach k who only had good things to say about him. Or Malone who also loved him.

What coaches are you referencing? Smart? Please. Westphal? His post kings career has been a hit. Karl, who hasn't said anything negative about him.

Cuz is immature, desperately wants to win and plays for a dysfunctional franchise. A bad combo. But for all the hand wringing about his character, he's never had issues off the court and the worst you really hear is that he pouts and complains. I'll take that over half the off court stuff we hear less about.

Post #186 » by **bondom34** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:37 pm

This whole thread is sad. Sorry Kings fans, you don't deserve this.

cedric76 · Post #187 » by **cedric76** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:17 pm

1st step:
Michael Malone would love to coach the Magic, according to the Orlando Sentinel
2nd step:
Boogie request trade
3rd step:
Orl give the farm to kings for Boogie

laploutocratie · Post #188 » by **laploutocratie** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:24 pm

Hook us up with our Harden, Kings.

KillMonger · Post #189 » by **KillMonger** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:26 pm

cedric76 wrote:1st step:
Michael Malone would love to coach the Magic, according to the Orlando Sentinel
2nd step:
Boogie request trade
3rd step:
Orl give the farm to kings for Boogie

Ambrose · Post #190 » by **Ambrose** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:00 pm

The Magic and Wolves can actually make nice offers. No one wants Boston's abundance of mediocre assets, especially for the best center in the game.

woosah · Post #191 » by **woosah** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:10 pm

If they do actually do this, boy oh boy will they make out like fat rats. All they have to do is get two teams into a bidding war, which they would get if you go by this thread lol.

Curmudgeon · Post #192 » by **Curmudgeon** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:13 pm

bondom34 wrote:This whole thread is sad. Sorry Kings fans, you don't deserve this.

These Cousins threads always turn sour because of the vastly different perceptions about Boogie. He's a polarizing player.

Actually, with all due respect, some (but by no means all) Kings fans deserve it. He's not the best center in the game. Anthony Davis is the best center in the game, and Cousins is several notches below Davis, even if you ignore the Cousins' frequent temper tantrums.

Post #193 » by **bondom34** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:15 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:
bondom34 wrote:This whole thread is sad. Sorry Kings fans, you don't deserve this.

These Cousins threads always turn sour because of the vastly different perceptions about Boogie. He's a polarizing player.

Actually, with all due respect, some (but by no means all) Kings fans deserve it. He's not the best center in the game. Anthony Davis is the best center in the game, and Cousins is several notches below Davis, even if you ignore the Cousins' frequent temper tantrums.

I'd disagree because I don't think he is that far below AD and AD isn't a center. And the fans have nothing to do with this.

Nuggets_Talk · Post #194 » by **Nuggets_Talk** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:12 pm

bondom34 wrote:This whole thread is sad. Sorry Kings fans, you don't deserve this.

Agreed. Most of these deals are laughable.

Litany · Post #195 » by **Litany** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:03 pm

sdballer wrote:
Lattimer wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:
You're joking, right? The Jazz would personally send their private plane ASAP to Sacramento for Cousins if the Kings took that deal. Which they would never do. Ever.

If the Jazz trade Favors for Cousins I'll lose my mind. They aren't dumb enough to do it though, so I don't have anything to worry about. I want nothing to do with Cousins on my team.

Coach after coach and more and more people confirming that this kid has issues and people continue making excuses for him. Can't wait for him to go to a new team and see the same old crap there and we wont get to just blame the Kings and the endless list of people that have problems with Cousins.

You mean like calipari who loves him. Or coach k who only had good things to say about him. Or Malone who also loved him.

What coaches are you referencing? Smart? Please. Westphal? His post kings career has been a hit. Karl, who hasn't said anything negative about him.

Cuz is immature, desperately wants to win and plays for a dysfunctional franchise. A bad combo. But for all the hand wringing about his character, he's never had issues off the court and the worst you really hear is that he pouts and complains. I'll take that over half the off court stuff we hear less about.

Calipari is smart. He has nothing to gain and everything to lose by bashing one of his players. Calipari is about getting as many of the top recruits he can and pimping them up so they go high in the draft. He isn't going to criticize one of his current or even former players as that could cause players to be weary of going to his school and him criticizing them publicly thereby hurting their draftstock. So what he says doesn't hold much weight. Coach K was around Cousins for a very short period and it's like saying that the guy who coached the all-star game liked a player. As for Coach Malone, he was most interested in retaining his job and alienating your franchise player is not a good way to get in good with the team methinks.

I don't see Cousins as a player you can actually build around and a winner. Hopefully he proves me wrong and has success but if I were a GM I wouldn't be willing to bet on him.

SF_Warriors · Post #196 » by **SF_Warriors** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:10 pm

Austincys21 wrote:
Fico92 wrote:
M4P wrote:This is a false narrative propagated by media outlets. It's quite embarrassing that people still believe this; Cousins, when you consider youth, impact, and skillset is the best big in the league bar none. Anyone on the Rockets outside of Harden would be up for grabs if he hits the market.

I think 99 out of 100 people would rather have Davis. You are the 1 that wouldn't. Cousins is not the best big in the L, and Davis is even younger. He's up there, though.

Wtf has Cousins done ? Besides be in the lottery each year. It could be management but the guy is good enough to at least peak at the playoffs. They have Rudy Gay, Carl Landry, Darren Collison.

Anthony Davis is by far the better player and teammate because he plays team ball and isn't selfish. Cousins is a very selfish player who IMO will find a way out of Sacremento and into a big matey where his big ego deserves.

Cousins might be the most skilled big aside Davis but there are guys like Gasol, Aldridge, and Drummond who I'd much rather build around.

Whoa, whoa.

No doubt AD is much, much better player than Cuz. Not many would argue that.

But Rudy Gay? Look at him on the raps, and then look at the same team with him gone...He's never been an all star, and also, rudy has only been to one playoffs his entire career thus far.. Him as the second best player is not gonna win you many ball games

collison is solid, but he only played 45 games this year.

and carl freakin landry? Really? Yea he was a good player..in 2010. At this stage in his career, he is barely a rotation player.

mclemore is still young and developing. He is not a quality starter. At least not yet.
Jason Thompson is not a difference maker.

Cousins DOES NOT have the right pieces around him to make a playoff push.
You think AD with Gay and 45 games of collison would play even .500 basketball? I doubt it.

AD at least has two rotational bigs on his team. After Cuz, SAC has no one at the level of Asik and Anderson.
And yes, we all know Cuz would need more than what AD has around him for a successful playoff push.
But saying Gay, Collison, and Landry is a quality supporting cast is a ridiculous notion, especially when collison played half the season. Both Gay and Cuz missed games as well. AD has played more games than either of them.

bape_lovers · Post #197 » by **bape_lovers** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:15 pm

I will trade myPlayer with overall rating 99 for Cousins

jacoby1us · Post #198 » by **jacoby1us** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:18 pm

Unleash the freaking BOOGIE MONSTER to the United Center!
Trade Noah, Kings 2016 draft picks, McDermott, and cash to Sacramento for the Boogie Man.

crosko42 · Post #199 » by **crosko42** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:27 pm

Ainge would definately blow his load on Cousins if he becomes available. Celtics can offer successive first round picks since they have so many extras to avoid the rule of not having a pick traded in consecutive seasons.

2015 Celtics 1st pick (16th overall)
2016 Nets 1st pick
2017 Celtics/Nets (whichever is the better pick, other pick goes to the nets) 1st pick
2018 Nets pick
Tyler Zeller
Gerald Wallace (expiring)
Jared Sullinger
Marcus Smart

For:

Cousins
Landry (Absorbed via Prince TPE)
Thompson (Absorbed via Rondo TPE)

They get 4 1sts, a serviceable center on a rookie deal, an solid young rotational big in sully, and a great young guard in smart (plus gerald wallaces expiring corpse).

They also shed two bad contracts.

Not the "best" deal, but are the magic or wolves seriously going to give up some of the packages listed here? This deal even makes me pause with Smart included.