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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#161 » by MagicFan101 » Sun Apr 5, 2015 8:10 pm

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drsd wrote:Ultra thin PF and C have performed horribly in the NBA.

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Mostly if they stay that way. That's why teams have strength and conditioning coaches. Just look at how Dwight looked when he came into the league straight out of high school. I'm not really concerned about Porzingis' size, he seems to be consistently bulking up. You are acting like he's Noel thin.


Dwight had a man's body in high school and he grew into a monster. Look at the difference in their shoulders. Porzingis doesn't look like he has the frame to add A LOT of good weight onto.

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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#162 » by Skin » Sun Apr 5, 2015 8:37 pm

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25 sports stars: then and now... kinda funny article
http://sportzwiki.com/football/25-sport ... en-and-now

Judging 18-19 year old bodies as finished products is :lol:
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#163 » by orthoman » Sun Apr 5, 2015 10:36 pm

Porzingas will be a bust....a bench player, at best. A smaller Shawn Bradley. Please, we cannot take him.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#164 » by drsd » Mon Apr 6, 2015 6:48 am

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Porziņģis as a comparison to Garnett is worth having. Garnett dominated children in high school, whereas Porziņģis has been competent against veterans. His 10 points per game translates very, very well to the NBA. THe 4 rig reflects his play against men.

Garnett had a 10/6 rookie season with nearly 29 mpg. If Porziņģis plays that many minutes his rookie season, his European stat line directly translates to something like 12/6. In Garnett's 2nd season, he was already a 17/8 guy. For Porziņģis to ever be a 17/8 guy, he must get stronger in his chest and shoulders. His first Summer is key. From year 3 Garnett has a streak of 9-seasons with more than 10 rpg. Does any of us believe Porziņģis will ever average 10 rpg? His game is more like Rashard Lewis than Kevin Garnett.


Here's Lewis in high school:
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#165 » by 407Junkie » Mon Apr 6, 2015 8:18 am

We can't take this guy.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#166 » by cedric76 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:54 pm

Kristaps Porzingis Named 14-15 Eurocup Rising Star

Apr 14, 2015 12:34 PM

Kristaps Porzingis of Baloncesto Seville has been named the winner of the 2014-15 Eurocup Rising Star Trophy.

The 19-year-old Latvian big man comes off a strong season - his second in the competition - for Seville, which he led to the Eurocup Last 32. The Eurocup Rising Star Trophy recognizes the most outstanding player in the competition who was younger than 22 years of age on July 1 of the summer before the season started.

Despite coming off the bench for all but three games this season and averaging less than 21 minutes per night, Porzingis led his team in scoring (186 points in 16 games, 11.6 ppg.) and index rating (13.1), while adding 4.1 rebounds and a team-best 1.2 blocks. He also shot 45.9% from behind the arc.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#167 » by rcklsscognition » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:37 am

What type of game did Dirk have when he came in the league? Henny has spent a lot of time in Europe scouting.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#168 » by KillMonger » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:23 am

rcklsscognition wrote:What type of game did Dirk have when he came in the league? Henny has spent a lot of time in Europe scouting.

That's unfair comparison even at the same age it's a hall of famer man
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#169 » by Truth24 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:52 am

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rcklsscognition wrote:What type of game did Dirk have when he came in the league? Henny has spent a lot of time in Europe scouting.

That's unfair comparison even at the same age it's a hall of famer man


It's fair though because his game does resembles Dirks game when he was younger. Now that doesn't mean he will turn into the great player that Dirk became but when you watch early Dirk like 18 year old Dirk you can see some similarities in there games. I think Taps is such a better fit right now over a player like WCS because he can be a great weak side shot blocker while also giving more on offense then WCS could ever dream of doing.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#170 » by KillMonger » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:54 am

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Immature Luigi wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:What type of game did Dirk have when he came in the league? Henny has spent a lot of time in Europe scouting.

That's unfair comparison even at the same age it's a hall of famer man


It's fair though because his game does resembles Dirks game when he was younger. Now that doesn't mean he will turn into the great player that Dirk became but when you watch early Dirk like 18 year old Dirk you can see some similarities in there games. I think Taps is such a better fit right now over a player like WCS because he can be a great weak side shot blocker while also giving more on offense then WCS could ever dream of doing.

where are people seeing this? any video i'm seeing doesn't show any significant defensive footage, is there a link where i can see what kind of defender he is? i don't care about shooting, we need someone next to vuc who can anchor a defense if we want to go anywhere in the future with vuc on this roster he's got to be able to be an anchor.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#171 » by Bensational » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:19 am

Skin wrote:Image

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25 sports stars: then and now... kinda funny article
http://sportzwiki.com/football/25-sport ... en-and-now

Judging 18-19 year old bodies as finished products is :lol:


Can't say I'm too excited about Porzi, but that was a fantastic response. Well played.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#172 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:16 pm

orthoman wrote:Porzingas will be a bust....a bench player, at best. A smaller Shawn Bradley. Please, we cannot take him.


I am with you. Reminds me more of Tskitishytski
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#173 » by Dgbarnes » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:28 pm

Can't believe people are saying he will be a bust lol. He has a high motor, athletic, can shoot from deep, extremely long, he will NOT be a benchwarmer I can guarantee that. Granted it might not make sense to take him where we're at int he draft, but he will not be a bad player by any means.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#174 » by KillMonger » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:33 pm

Strengths: As a legit 7 footer he has perfect height for the role, combined with long arms and big hands ... Despite the size he prefers to play as a small forward, showing amazing body control, coordination and ball handling skills ... Porzignis excels in transition situations, where he can use his speed, fluidity and athleticism to outrun defenders ... During the past season he has improved his off the ball game, exploiting cuts and backdoors to get the rim ... He’s a solid shooter, with range also from three point, showing a remarkable confidence and variety of solutions: step-back, pull-up jumper, catch and shoot are all part of his repertoire ... On the defensive side he’s really effective as a weak side defender, with his quickness and athleticism he can cover a lot of space in a few steps to alter or block shots ... Furthermore his lateral mobility makes him a solid P&R defender, a key skill for a big man, especially at NBA level ... His footwork also allows him to switch onto the guards forcing them to take difficult shots ... Born in August of 1995 making him one of the youngest players in the draft ...

Weaknesses: He’s still skinny with narrow shoulders, needing to bulk up, without consistent improvements on his frame over the last three years ... This physical shortcoming affects his game, with losses of balance after contact and the consequent preference to settle for the mid-range jumper instead of attacking the rim and drawing fouls. Furthermore he totally lacks an inside game, struggling in establishing position in the post and lacking effective moves ... Most of his points in the painted area come from offensive rebounds and put backs, and his game is based solely facing the basket .. His lack of strength affects his ability to guard traditional centers, with a tendency to be rag dolled during the battles below the rim ... Essentially he’s a shooting guard in the body of a center, an intriguing prospect that painfully needs to develop physically, and still a tweener at the moment ...
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#175 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:18 pm

If we draft him that ONLY means Henny and co has scouted the shi* out of him and are almost 99% confident he will become the player we need him to be.

Trust in Henny's eye for talent he hasn't disappointed yet I don't think he will now.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#176 » by ezzzp » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:32 pm

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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#177 » by Truth24 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:01 pm

Immature Luigi wrote:Strengths: As a legit 7 footer he has perfect height for the role, combined with long arms and big hands ... Despite the size he prefers to play as a small forward, showing amazing body control, coordination and ball handling skills ... Porzignis excels in transition situations, where he can use his speed, fluidity and athleticism to outrun defenders ... During the past season he has improved his off the ball game, exploiting cuts and backdoors to get the rim ... He’s a solid shooter, with range also from three point, showing a remarkable confidence and variety of solutions: step-back, pull-up jumper, catch and shoot are all part of his repertoire ... On the defensive side he’s really effective as a weak side defender, with his quickness and athleticism he can cover a lot of space in a few steps to alter or block shots ... Furthermore his lateral mobility makes him a solid P&R defender, a key skill for a big man, especially at NBA level ... His footwork also allows him to switch onto the guards forcing them to take difficult shots ... Born in August of 1995 making him one of the youngest players in the draft ...

Weaknesses: He’s still skinny with narrow shoulders, needing to bulk up, without consistent improvements on his frame over the last three years ... This physical shortcoming affects his game, with losses of balance after contact and the consequent preference to settle for the mid-range jumper instead of attacking the rim and drawing fouls. Furthermore he totally lacks an inside game, struggling in establishing position in the post and lacking effective moves ... Most of his points in the painted area come from offensive rebounds and put backs, and his game is based solely facing the basket .. His lack of strength affects his ability to guard traditional centers, with a tendency to be rag dolled during the battles below the rim ... Essentially he’s a shooting guard in the body of a center, an intriguing prospect that painfully needs to develop physically, and still a tweener at the moment ...


Pretty much what everyone has been saying about him; Great shooter, weak side blocker, solid P&R defender, and very fluid athlete. His weakness are concerning but they are more due to his weight and strength rather his actual skill and most of that won't matter because he is going to be a forward in the league not a center. He brings a lot to the table for us a guy who can weak side help as well a guard the quick fours of the league, and while he isn't that strong in the post right now as he matures and gains weight he will become better.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#178 » by Nemesis21 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:01 pm

Please don't waste another lottery pick on a Euro player.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#179 » by Optimus_Steel » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:10 pm

This guy sounds like a very risky pick if you are drafting in the top 5 or 6. Why take the risk?
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#180 » by ivDT » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:19 pm

kris taps poor zingis?

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