OKC Thunder Offseason 2015

KD35Brah · Post #21 » by **KD35Brah** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:16 pm

I would want Thibs, but i don't trust him to NOT run all of our players into the ground?

Mike Malone?

Bring Sloan out of retirement?

Or atleast grab some assistants for Brooks like GSW did for Kerr with Adams, Gentry, etc...

Pillendreher · Post #22 » by **Pillendreher** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:33 pm

KD was already leading the league in minutes. Unless Thibs plays him 44 minutes per game, I don't see the problem.

HeartSouloma · Post #23 » by **HeartSouloma** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:37 pm

It doesn't make any sense to get rid of SB unless Thibs is available which I doubt. He's probably the only coach I might consider to coach this team. It sucks to lose out a season without our best two players but we'll come back stronger next year. I hope we can retain Kanter. As well as picking up another wing or two guard.

Zack M · Post #24 » by **Zack M** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:50 pm

i wanna cry

Zack M · Post #25 » by **Zack M** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:51 pm

is there anyway we can get Karl?

Post #26 » by **bondom34** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:00 pm

Please not Karl. I'd be neutral to Thibs. I'd rather keep Brooks.

KD35Brah · Post #27 » by **KD35Brah** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:25 pm

Dude if we get a top 5 pick and pick up Winslow...

Balkman32 · Post #28 » by **Balkman32** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:44 pm

kd 35 wrote:I'm actually excited for the lottery and the draft process. Could you imagine?

As much as I wanted the team to make the playoffs, I think the guys need the extra time off this summer. Get everyone rested, recovered, and prepared to come back stronger than ever. We will need everyone at full strength next season. It's going to be special.

I'm proud of the team and I enjoy being a part of this tight-knit Thunder community. I'll mostly be lurking and lingering around the draft board this offseason to learn more about the draft prospects but I'll try not to completely vanish this offseason. I'd love to keep the board active over the summer. I enjoy reading the banter.

It would have been good for Morrow, Kanter and Waiters to get some playoff basketball in w/ this team. Which sucks.

A team being out fo the top 10 worst teams has never won the lottery. I also don't think the Thunder would take Towns if they were able to get the #1 pick (or top 3 pick). I think Okafor, Winslow, and Kristaps Porzingis are probably atop of their board.

Balkman32 · Post #29 » by **Balkman32** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:46 pm

Pillendreher wrote:I just woke up from dreaming I somehow helped the team sign a healthy Wesley Matthews. Too bad I woke up to this nightmare of a season.

He would be a nice add but, it would have to be a sign and trade (Portland aint doing that) because the thunder only have the mid-level exception and if they re-sign Kanter that will only be worth 3 million.

Balkman32 · Post #30 » by **Balkman32** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:49 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:If they were to win the lottery that would certainly open up a lot of options for the off-season. A S&T with Kanter would become a real possibility if they took Towns. It is also possible they would trade down, #1 for the #3 and future picks, and stick with their current big men while taking D'Angelo Russell as the new 6th man combo guard type. Realistically I'm looking at Devin Booker as the pick. Booker has the chance to be a very good SG on both ends of the court.

I think Jerian Grant would be a welcomed fit. He could fill the backup 1 and could play the 2 with Russell.

Word is they are in love w/ Kristaps Porzingis. Some think he should be the #1 pick this year.

Balkman32 · Post #31 » by **Balkman32** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:54 pm

BadWolf wrote:Tough luck in the end, but there were so many mistakes/bad games during the season and specially in final two weeks that is hard to blame luck for it. Other then injury luck.
Some big questions this off season. What to do with Kanter? Is he fools gold or great fit with starters. I wilding pay him more then 8 per, but market will dictate higher price.
I think it's time to move on from pj and lamb, let them try to succeed elsewhere. Draft a wing sg/SF, maybe get a bigger backup pg, ideally bring Abrines over and hope for injury free season.
My current targets in the draft are Dunn, Payne, Oubre and maybe Frank the Tank (if they do s&t with enes)

I think Kanter's comments have shown that he wants to be here. He might be willing to sign a team friendly deal because he know if he gets stuck in another Utah situation he might wither away.

PJ# and Lamb are both probably done. But, you never know what will happen in the off season.

Balkman32 · Post #32 » by **Balkman32** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:02 pm

KD35Brah wrote:I would want Thibs, but i don't trust him to NOT run all of our players into the ground?

Mike Malone?

Bring Sloan out of retirement?

Or atleast grab some assistants for Brooks like GSW did for Kerr with Adams, Gentry, etc...

Thibs is interesting. Because of the defensive aspect.

spearsy23 · Post #33 » by **spearsy23** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:03 pm

I'm a little curious about the rationale behind getting rid of Brooks now. He's obviously a good defensive coach and he just put together a great offense while missing KD and Serge, so what's the knock now? Also, why would anyone want to replace him with Thibs who has the same strengths and weaknesses?

Balkman32 · Post #34 » by **Balkman32** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:04 pm

KD35Brah wrote:Dude if we get a top 5 pick and pick up Winslow...

Would have to trade for 4 or 5. They have about a 2% chance to get one of the top 3 picks.

Post #35 » by **bondom34** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:06 pm

spearsy23 wrote:I'm a little curious about the rationale behind getting rid of Brooks now. He's obviously a good defensive coach and he just put together a great offense while missing KD and Serge, so what's the knock now? Also, why would anyone want to replace him with Thibs who has the same strengths and weaknesses?

Hamm wrote it on DT, but it really is spexualtion. It was apparently the usual evaluation every coach gets every year. I really doubt anything happens.

Balkman32 · Post #36 » by **Balkman32** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:10 pm

spearsy23 wrote:I'm a little curious about the rationale behind getting rid of Brooks now. He's obviously a good defensive coach and he just put together a great offense while missing KD and Serge, so what's the knock now? Also, why would anyone want to replace him with Thibs who has the same strengths and weaknesses?

They were one of the worst defensive teams this year. yes there were a ton of injuries. But, what is their offense? I mean because I saw a lot of iso and drive. It would be so much nicer to get open looks like the spurs do.

Post #37 » by **bondom34** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:28 pm

Balkman32 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I'm a little curious about the rationale behind getting rid of Brooks now. He's obviously a good defensive coach and he just put together a great offense while missing KD and Serge, so what's the knock now? Also, why would anyone want to replace him with Thibs who has the same strengths and weaknesses?

They were one of the worst defensive teams this year. yes there were a ton of injuries. But, what is their offense? I mean because I saw a lot of iso and drive. It would be so much nicer to get open looks like the spurs do.

I doubt it would be that drastically different outside a few guys. KD and Russ have to, and will, get theirs. Morrow already gets looks, so does Serge. Kanter too. After that I don't know how many shots are left.

Thunderhead · Post #38 » by **Thunderhead** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:46 pm

After listening to these exit interviews, especially Nick and Serge, all the defense needs is healthy roster and a training camp. Nicks interview was really good, he gave a brief insight into what NBA defense is really about. And from that, you can see why Perk was missed.

Nick says Kanter is just a young player and playing PnR defense is about recognition, and Kanter will get better at that. Which is what I've always thought bout Perk. Perk could stand under the basket, see plays develop and call out what is happening, and keep everyone where they need to be.

KD35Brah · Post #39 » by **KD35Brah** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:58 pm

Thunderhead wrote:After listening to these exit interviews, especially Nick and Serge, all the defense needs is healthy roster and a training camp. Nicks interview was really good, he gave a brief insight into what NBA defense is really about. And from that, you can see why Perk was missed.

Nick says Kanter is just a young player and playing PnR defense is about recognition, and Kanter will get better at that. Which is what I've always thought bout Perk. Perk could stand under the basket, see plays develop and call out what is happening, and keep everyone where they need to be.

Where did you see the Exit interviews?

spearsy23 · Post #40 » by **spearsy23** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:09 pm

Balkman32 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I'm a little curious about the rationale behind getting rid of Brooks now. He's obviously a good defensive coach and he just put together a great offense while missing KD and Serge, so what's the knock now? Also, why would anyone want to replace him with Thibs who has the same strengths and weaknesses?

They were one of the worst defensive teams this year. yes there were a ton of injuries. But, what is their offense? I mean because I saw a lot of iso and drive. It would be so much nicer to get open looks like the spurs do.

The defense was fantastic prior to the trades, especially considering the D-league roster that started the year. After the trades it was iffy but not unacceptable until Serge, Roberson and Nick all went down, that means the five best defenders we started the year with were all gone. We got a ton of open looks off of those iso's and drives, we scored at a very good rate (and had an O-reb rate that actually made our efficiency look worse than it was) and we were missing our best player, third best player and sixth best. There's only so much a coach can do, and blaming Brooks for any of this is just not right.

Edit: and they weren't really one of the worst defenses, they were 16th.