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Re: Play faster what does that mean? 

Post#21 » by dolphinatik » Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:25 am

he said that beore then slowed it right back down. When Dragic came we would play faster, his first game we played fast... then the rest of games slowed it back down. I will believe it when I see it sustained by the Heat as a play style.
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Re: Play faster what does that mean? 

Post#22 » by 3ballbomber » Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:49 am

Spo obviously specifically has Dragic in mind when he says he wants to play at a faster pace. why so worried? first off it means we want to cater to Gorans strengths and 2ndly he is adjusting to the skillset of his new players - this is a good thing. It most prob does not mean that we will now be a run & gun team.... but we are not restricted to being a half court/slow paced team only. I think this change of dynamics is a positive thing, gives us more possibilities and opportunities. Let's see what comes of it before we criticize it.
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Re: Play faster what does that mean? 

Post#23 » by TroubleS0me » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:33 am

...but didnt Wade say he prefers the slower pace?
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Re: Play faster what does that mean? 

Post#24 » by LEIF » Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:25 am

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LEIF wrote:In one sense, I think playing faster can simply mean we plan to shift the lead guard responsibilities to Dragic more than Wade in the grand scheme. I thought when Dragic arrived we far too many times let Wade or Rio handle the ball for 3-4 possessions in a row when we would be more successful with Wade off the ball and Dragic setting him up. I understand why they were doing it, because we were integrating a new player into our system mid season and Wade was more comfortable with the ball in his hands by that point. But Wade said himself that it was an adjustment being "the guy" this year and I think playing faster could be connected to doing less pounding of the basketball as the shot clock runs down by everybody & more of getting out and going with Dragic leading the way. Wade is still a top player in the league (especially in spurts) but is undeniably better served as the finisher than the set up man. Also Whiteside can run and finish in transition, so can CB, so I don't think playing faster is an indication that we are not playing to our strengths as a roster. I think it is the opposite actually those guys need as many easy baskets as they can get and playing faster could achieve that.


I heard this a few times about Whiteside, but i rarely recall him ever getting points in transition maybe 2 or 3 times. And me and Ira had a discussion a while ago about how you would think Bosh would been more involved in transition points being a smaller quicker center, but he wasnt. He didnt get much transition points. It wasnt often that you seen him out run centers down the court. And now that he will be playing PF, it will be even more difficult for him to out run PFs.


I think Bosh will be much improved in transition with a lead guard like Goran Dragic. Just in terms of passing the eye test when you watch them both play individually they seem to be destined to meshing well. Bosh will fill wings near the basket & catch in traffic when trailing the play. For me, I don't think of Whiteside from the aspect of his ability on fast breaks but more as the ultimate clean up guy who has the instincts to keep plays alive that the 1st or 2nd option on the break doesn't convert.
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Re: Play faster what does that mean? 

Post#25 » by dolphinatik » Sun Apr 19, 2015 3:57 pm

LEIF wrote:I think Bosh will be much improved in transition with a lead guard like Goran Dragic. Just in terms of passing the eye test when you watch them both play individually they seem to be destined to meshing well. Bosh will fill wings near the basket & catch in traffic when trailing the play. For me, I don't think of Whiteside from the aspect of his ability on fast breaks but more as the ultimate clean up guy who has the instincts to keep plays alive that the 1st or 2nd option on the break doesn't convert.


The Dragic/Bosh pick and roll or pick and pop should be deadly
throw in Whiteside cleaning up misses or ready to receive if the roller gets collapsed on.

No reason they should not all play effectively together. Outside of Bosh we need a good midrange threat that can pullup with a quick accurate trigger. I like Beasley because he doesnt mind catching and pulling up midrange or driving from a midrange fake to the rim. But I dont know if Beas will be here next year or if we will use him that way.

Any change with the way the offense is run all comes down to Dwayne Wade accepting change and the being ok with the ball not being in his hands the majority of the possessions. Spo shouldn't have to check with Wade because Wade is so talented that he can adapt and play in any playstyle.
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Re: Play faster what does that mean? 

Post#26 » by DefenseWins » Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:04 pm

TroubleS0me wrote:...but didnt Wade say he prefers the slower pace?


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miam ... story.html

At the time, it was due to our players. To play fast you need players who know what they are doing, we have so many guys who defer and at the end we throw up something at the shot clock

At the time we had one legit ball handler in Wade who had to be the defacto PG

Dragic does change everything and maybe McBob.
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Re: Play faster what does that mean? 

Post#27 » by KingDavid » Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:10 pm

Looking at how quick Dallas gets into their sets, I suppose we end up doing something similar. Instead of barely crossing halfcourt in 8 seconds and initiating the offense with 10 seconds on the clock, we'll probably look to attack very quickly. Even on inbounds play.
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Re: Play faster what does that mean? 

Post#28 » by 3ballbomber » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:54 am

KingDavid wrote:Looking at how quick Dallas gets into their sets, I suppose we end up doing something similar. Instead of barely crossing halfcourt in 8 seconds and initiating the offense with 10 seconds on the clock, we'll probably look to attack very quickly. Even on inbounds play.

more dynamic, shake things up a little...i can dig it.

We'll always have our grimy, grind it out, half court game that is effective in the playoffs......so incorporating other tricks into the bag wouldn't be a bad idea at all.
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Re: Play faster what does that mean? 

Post#29 » by ndnow » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:50 pm

It means, designing an offence with plays that run early to mid into the shot clock. When you slow the game down you run plays that run and execute towards the end of the clock. It also means pushing the ball early and positioning to run the offense off of misses and turnovers.
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Re: Play faster what does that mean? 

Post#30 » by EscapoTHB » Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:41 am

It would be hard to play any slower

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