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Which coach is worse? Wittman or Casey? Vote here

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Pick your poison --

Wittman
19
26%
Casey
28
39%
They're both actually pretty good coaches
4
6%
They're both equally bad coaches
20
28%
Other (explain below)
1
1%
 
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Re: Which coach is worse? Wittman or Casey? Vote here 

Post#41 » by closg00 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:02 pm

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pineappleheadindc wrote:OMG - I am watching a replay of Dwane Casey's post-game presser on NBATV. Wow is all I can say.

Feels like he's not even talking about what just happened in this game that they just played.

Could it be that our friends from Toronto have been correct all along with respect to who actually has the worse coach?


Wittman has coached badly these playoffs (some of the rotations and sets you guys run are really ridiculous) but he has been out dumbed by Casey.

We told you.


You guys appear to be right, I didn't think he was going to be 'that bad", but he is and then-some.
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Re: Which coach is worse? Wittman or Casey? Vote here 

Post#42 » by fishercob » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:14 pm

pineappleheadindc wrote:OMG - I am watching a replay of Dwane Casey's post-game presser on NBATV. Wow is all I can say.

Feels like he's not even talking about what just happened in this game that they just played.

Could it be that our friends from Toronto have been correct all along with respect to who actually has the worse coach?


I watched the presser and was unimpressed. But what do he do that was so terrible, coaching-wise? Are we really to believe that more James Johnson would have swung these two games?

If Casey had a healthy Lowry (who started the freaking All-Star game) and Amir, he's look a lot smarter. Still a players' league IMO.
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Re: Which coach is worse? Wittman or Casey? Vote here 

Post#43 » by TheSecretWeapon » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:45 pm

fishercob wrote:
pineappleheadindc wrote:OMG - I am watching a replay of Dwane Casey's post-game presser on NBATV. Wow is all I can say.

Feels like he's not even talking about what just happened in this game that they just played.

Could it be that our friends from Toronto have been correct all along with respect to who actually has the worse coach?


I watched the presser and was unimpressed. But what do he do that was so terrible, coaching-wise? Are we really to believe that more James Johnson would have swung these two games?

If Casey had a healthy Lowry (who started the freaking All-Star game) and Amir, he's look a lot smarter. Still a players' league IMO.


A healthy Raptors team would be different. One thing I do question is their defensive approach to the Wizards. They're scrambling a lot and extending their defense in ways I don't think are necessary. In the first quarter, they were having success lying back and conceding open jumpers to the Wizards. At least a couple times, Wall had uncontested looks from 3pt range, but dribbled in for the long two. Pierce did the same a couple times. That seems a sensible approach to the Wizards. They want the long two, so let 'em have it.

I do wonder if Toronto's advanced analytics could be biting them in the ass. :D They did some really incredible work using the SportsVu data to "ghost" their defense. Their system showed where the defenders actually were on the floor, as well as a "ghost" that showed the optimal positioning of that defender to minimize the opposition's chance of scoring based on the positioning of the ball and the other players on the floor. One of the major findings of that project was that defenders should (in general) help more, and be more aggressive about it when they're helping. So, Toronto has been defending like this all season, and maybe it's tough for them to break those habits and defend in a way that makes more sense when facing the Wizards.

Except, the Wizards aren't like other teams. They want the bad shots, and they'll run all kinds of action to get them. But, what are the real threats Washington presents? Wall's penetration -- either to finish himself or to kick out. S/R with Wall and Gortat. Open looks from 3pt land for Beal and Pierce. So, the better strategy would seem to be what Toronto did early -- lying back and daring them to shoot twos. There's no need to bite on all the run-around action. Defend the paint and run Beal and Pierce off the 3pt line. Go under the pick every time Wall runs screen/roll and let him shoot jumpers.

Not that I'm complaining. :nod:
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Re: Which coach is worse? Wittman or Casey? Vote here 

Post#44 » by Higga » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:49 pm

Not sure who is the worst coach, but Wittman has the better players and thats what matters.

Last year everyone raved about how the Bulls Thibs would run circles around Wittman, yet we knocked them out in 5 and Thibs looked dumb. Truth is, without good players you ain't beating anybody.
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Post#45 » by queridiculo » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:54 pm

With respect to the Raptors coaching, I just can't believe that with a gimpy Amir, Tyler **** Hansbrough is the best the Raptors can do. They have Patrick Patterson and if they want to goon it up James Johnson still seems like a better option than psycho t.

The Washington defense is too good to trot a self-check like Hansbrough out there, and it's not like he rebounds or plays defense well enough to cover up his offensive deficiencies.

As a Raptors fan I'd be livid to see him get a minute of meaningful playing time.
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Re: Which coach is worse? Wittman or Casey? Vote here 

Post#46 » by SwaggyB » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:58 pm

TheSecretWeapon wrote:One thing I do question is their defensive approach to the Wizards. They're scrambling a lot and extending their defense in ways I don't think are necessary.


This is Casey's system. They've been doing it all year and it's been failing for the latter half of the season as every team has figured out how to expose it. Yet he won't adjust. We don't even have the personnel capable of making this system work... but why would you build a system to maximize the strengths of your players and hide their weaknesses, right?
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Re: Which coach is worse? Wittman or Casey? Vote here 

Post#47 » by TheSecretWeapon » Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:13 pm

SwaggyB wrote:
TheSecretWeapon wrote:One thing I do question is their defensive approach to the Wizards. They're scrambling a lot and extending their defense in ways I don't think are necessary.


This is Casey's system. They've been doing it all year and it's been failing for the latter half of the season as every team has figured out how to expose it. Yet he won't adjust. We don't even have the personnel capable of making this system work... but why would you build a system to maximize the strengths of your players and hide their weaknesses, right?


Us Wiz fans could write the same words of Wittman's offense.

Sorta sympathies to you guys. I know how it feels, but...well...better you than me. :nod:
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Re: Which coach is worse? Wittman or Casey? Vote here 

Post#48 » by closg00 » Wed May 13, 2015 1:03 pm

Amazing, Casey was not fired. I'll have to visit the Raps board to watch the exploding heads. I feel their pain.

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