FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

[siar617]

Galloway
Danny Green
Melo
Monroe
Towns

and Tobias Harris 6th man

This

Can you break down our available 2015-2016 cap space numbers for those 4 "bolded" new players (by salary).

Yes, though it is contingent on ridding ourselves of both Calderon and Hardaway.

I believe it is 31-32 with them gone.

[BowlRips]

Galloway
Danny Green
Melo
Monroe
Towns

and Tobias Harris 6th man

This

Can you break down our available 2015-2016 cap space numbers for those 4 "bolded" new players (by salary).

Player 2015/2016
1 Carmelo Anthony $22,875,000
2 Greg Monroe $14,500,000
3 Karl Towns $4,750,000
4 Langston Galloway $845,059
5 Cleanthony Early $845,059
6 Tim Hardaway $1,304,520
7 Tobias Harris $10,500,000
8 Danny Green $9,500,000
9 Cap Hold $500,000
10 Cap Hold $500,000
11 Cap Hold $500,000
12 Cap Hold $500,000
Total salaries: $67,119,638
Salary Cap $67,100,000
Available Space ($19,638)

[Fat Kat]

rondo is straight trash now. why entertain the thought? rather let gallo run it with a cheap veteran backup.

i sorta agree
90%

but the amazing thing is that his season with Dallas has lowered his value to the lowest its been since pre-big three in Bahstun

we could probably lock him up for 10 mil - 12 mil

Im not saying thats the right move but Rondo at 12 mil would have been a pipe dream last year this time

if knicks could get him for 10... id be all for...

I don't want Rondo for the vet minimum. He's turrible.

[siar617]

Galloway
Danny Green
Melo
Monroe
Towns

and Tobias Harris 6th man

This

Can you break down our available 2015-2016 cap space numbers for those 4 "bolded" new players (by salary).

Yes, it is dependent on ridding ourselves of both Calderon and Hardaway.
I believe we are at 32-30 with them gone.

First priority is Monroe for me. He is the first person we should go after in free agency. Doing this makes him more appreciative. Make him the focus of the offense and the prime option. Most other team will not be knocking on his door first quarter. We get him early I believe he take less than the max to be a big part of our turn around. Not that he'd take ten million but just under his max for two years player option to get his raise 13 mil
mil.

Next is Harris, Orlando will match mostly anything workable so he has to be dam near max.
That should put him at another 13 mill at four years. They might match but worth a shot.

Last but not least is Green. Give him 8 annually same two years with option we give Monroe.

Numbers might be slightly off but I think it works for guys I believe want to be here and want (Monroe) the chance to show what they can really do.

[And100]

This

Can you break down our available 2015-2016 cap space numbers for those 4 "bolded" new players (by salary).

Yes, it is dependent on ridding ourselves of both Calderon and Hardaway.
I believe we are at 32-30 with them gone.

First priority is Monroe for me. He is the first person we should go after in free agency. Doing this makes him more appreciative. Make him the focus of the offense and the prime option. Most other team will not be knocking on his door first quarter. We get him early I believe he take less than the max to be a big part of our turn around. Not that he'd take ten million but just under his max for two years player option to get his raise 13 mil
mil.

Next is Harris, Orlando will match mostly anything workable so he has to be dam near max.
That should put him at another 13 mill at four years. They might match but worth a shot.

Last but not least is Green. Give him 8 annually same two years with option we give Monroe.

Numbers might be slightly off but I think it works for guys I believe want to be here and want (Monroe) the chance to show what they can really do.

13+13+8 = $34.

That's $2 to $4m short of even the best case scenario AND Monroe taking less than max (when his agent has already indicated he will not).

Knicks just are not signing 3 high-end free agents. Period.

The money just isn't there even in the best case scenario.

[siar617]

Can you break down our available 2015-2016 cap space numbers for those 4 "bolded" new players (by salary).

Yes, it is dependent on ridding ourselves of both Calderon and Hardaway.
I believe we are at 32-30 with them gone.

First priority is Monroe for me. He is the first person we should go after in free agency. Doing this makes him more appreciative. Make him the focus of the offense and the prime option. Most other team will not be knocking on his door first quarter. We get him early I believe he take less than the max to be a big part of our turn around. Not that he'd take ten million but just under his max for two years player option to get his raise 13 mil
mil.

Next is Harris, Orlando will match mostly anything workable so he has to be dam near max.
That should put him at another 13 mill at four years. They might match but worth a shot.

Last but not least is Green. Give him 8 annually same two years with option we give Monroe.

Numbers might be slightly off but I think it works for guys I believe want to be here and want (Monroe) the chance to show what they can really do.

13+13+8 = $34.

That's $2 to $4m short of even the best case scenario AND Monroe taking less than max (when his agent has already indicated he will not).

Knicks just are not signing 3 high-end free agents. Period.

The money just isn't there even in the best case scenario.

Reread the last paragraph.

[BowlRips]

Yes, it is dependent on ridding ourselves of both Calderon and Hardaway.
I believe we are at 32-30 with them gone.

First priority is Monroe for me. He is the first person we should go after in free agency. Doing this makes him more appreciative. Make him the focus of the offense and the prime option. Most other team will not be knocking on his door first quarter. We get him early I believe he take less than the max to be a big part of our turn around. Not that he'd take ten million but just under his max for two years player option to get his raise 13 mil
mil.

Next is Harris, Orlando will match mostly anything workable so he has to be dam near max.
That should put him at another 13 mill at four years. They might match but worth a shot.

Last but not least is Green. Give him 8 annually same two years with option we give Monroe.

Numbers might be slightly off but I think it works for guys I believe want to be here and want (Monroe) the chance to show what they can really do.

13+13+8 = $34.

That's $2 to $4m short of even the best case scenario AND Monroe taking less than max (when his agent has already indicated he will not).

Knicks just are not signing 3 high-end free agents. Period.

The money just isn't there even in the best case scenario.

Reread the last paragraph.

I broke it down in the post above. You shed Calderon it is extremely doable

[siar617]

13+13+8 = $34.

That's $2 to $4m short of even the best case scenario AND Monroe taking less than max (when his agent has already indicated he will not).

Knicks just are not signing 3 high-end free agents. Period.

The money just isn't there even in the best case scenario.

Reread the last paragraph.

I broke it down in the post above. You shed Calderon it is extremely doable

I play alot of 2k lol

[And100]

13+13+8 = $34.

That's $2 to $4m short of even the best case scenario AND Monroe taking less than max (when his agent has already indicated he will not).

Knicks just are not signing 3 high-end free agents. Period.

The money just isn't there even in the best case scenario.

Reread the last paragraph.

I broke it down in the post above. You shed Calderon it is extremely doable

First of all, saying "if" they shed Calderon is fine, but let's not pretend that's "extremely doable."

Secondly, one of you has Harris making $13m, the other $10.5m, significant not only for Harris but also in whether Orlando matches.

I just don't see the point in deciding what we think a player would accept when its less than their max and defining how likely it is they accept that salary. We have ZERO idea what a player is prepared to accept.

We DO know market conditions point towards an extreme seller's market.

[Knicks_Fan2]

Quite amazing the types of assets folks were willing to give up for Rondo as late as the beginning of this season.

[KnicksDynasty]

Next year
Pg- Rondo
Sg- k. leonard/ J. butler
Sf- melo
Pf- aldridge
C- Towns

Should get knicks 5 titles


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[siar617]

Reread the last paragraph.

I broke it down in the post above. You shed Calderon it is extremely doable

First of all, saying "if" they shed Calderon is fine, but let's not pretend that's "extremely doable."

Secondly, one of you has Harris making $13m, the other $10.5m, significant not only for Harris but also in whether Orlando matches.

I just don't see the point in deciding what we think a player would accept when its less than their max and defining how likely it is they accept that salary. We have ZERO idea what a player is prepared to accept.

We DO know market conditions point towards an extreme seller's market.

Basically you don't like it so we shouldn't think it. You should be a mod.
Got it

[HEZI]

Next year
Pg- Rondo
Sg- k. leonard/ J. butler
Sf- melo
Pf- aldridge
C- Towns

Should get knicks 5 titles


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Rondo is going to be a Laker. He is still salty at the fact that he ended up in Dallas and not in LA. He is selfishly even costing the Mavs the series against the Rockets because he is not happy in Dallas. I dont want anything to do with Rondo and his attitude. Let him go to LA where he wants to be and keep that little prick away from the Knicks.

[DickGrayson]

Towns is a center, he cant play with Asik and Carroll is a forward, he is not a shooting guard.

Please let that not be the players we tanked all year to get.

Towns can stretch the floor, he's a C/PF.

Just because you can hit a shot doesnt mean you are a power foward.

Towns can pass the ball, defend PF's and rebound extremely. He's as much of a PF as Tim Duncan was. Towns is dynamic and if you're unaware of it then thats on you. Towns can play C/PF. He fits in many lineups with the lottery teams.

He can play with Pekovic at Minnesota.
He can play with Cousins at Sacramento.
He can play with Vucevic at Orlando.

so if any of those teams win the #1 or #2 pick, you best believe Towns will see minutes at PF.

[siar617]

Rondo is bad for the triangle because he cant shoot.


The triangle is predicated on a bigman being able to get position in the deep post to force a defensive rotation from a double so that you can swing the ball strong to weak or to catch a defender losing his man out on the perimeter on the post up.


Rondo cant shoot

he cant space the floor for the triangle to be properly executed.

Not only that but he wants to run plays not an offense. If the ball is not in his hands ha ain't with it.

[moocow007]

Quite amazing the types of assets folks were willing to give up for Rondo as late as the beginning of this season.

Rondo still doesn't look right. He looks a couple steps slow and I'd say about 10 pounds heavier (at least) than when he was at his peak. He may never be right again. He can pretty much forget the max or anywhere near it. He would be the type of FA that probably should sign a 1 year deal. He just needs to make sure he gets on the right team.

[KnicksDynasty]

Ok if we dont get Rondo then who? Dragic brothers?

Anyone think we can pry Cousins off of Sac?

[And100]

I broke it down in the post above. You shed Calderon it is extremely doable

First of all, saying "if" they shed Calderon is fine, but let's not pretend that's "extremely doable."

Secondly, one of you has Harris making $13m, the other $10.5m, significant not only for Harris but also in whether Orlando matches.

I just don't see the point in deciding what we think a player would accept when its less than their max and defining how likely it is they accept that salary. We have ZERO idea what a player is prepared to accept.

We DO know market conditions point towards an extreme seller's market.

Basically you don't like it so we shouldn't think it. You should be a mod.
Got it

Not a matter of what I like, its simply unrealistic, which is what I said.

You have every right to indulge in fantasies. Just expect some reality checks if you do it in a public forum.

[siar617]

First of all, saying "if" they shed Calderon is fine, but let's not pretend that's "extremely doable."

Secondly, one of you has Harris making $13m, the other $10.5m, significant not only for Harris but also in whether Orlando matches.

I just don't see the point in deciding what we think a player would accept when its less than their max and defining how likely it is they accept that salary. We have ZERO idea what a player is prepared to accept.

We DO know market conditions point towards an extreme seller's market.

Basically you don't like it so we shouldn't think it. You should be a mod.
Got it

Not a matter of what I like, its simply unrealistic, which is what I said.

You have every right to indulge in fantasies. Just expect some reality checks if you do it in a public forum.

Well then here's one for you.
SPORTS FORUMS ARE JUST PEOPLE INDULGING IN FANTASIES.
Are you not entertained?

[moocow007]

Ok if we dont get Rondo then who? Dragic brothers?

The Heat is in a weird place. They basically have to offer Dragic a lot of money and I would imagine they will. At which point, it would require Dragic to really want NY. Miami was on Dragic's list of preferred places/teams (along with the Knicks) so that will hurt the Knicks chances. The other Dragic? I would imagine the same reason that he was traded with his brother is the same reason that he's not likely to be traded by the Heat if Goran resigns. Well not unless the Knicks overpay to trade for the lesser Dragic.

So...not likely on either would be my guess.

Anyone think we can pry Cousins off of Sac?

It would likely require the Knicks to minimally end up with the 1st or 2nd overall pick to do so. And probably would still need Cousins raise a stink and help force the Kings to trade him. Likely will cost the 1st overall AND Cousins to punch George Karl in the balls AND Cousins to say that he'd be a pest unless traded to NY if the Knicks also want the Kings to take Calderon.

So that's also probably unlikely.

As folks have said, realistic (FA signings) would be guys like Paul Milsap (would likely have to overpay a bit), Danny Green (since the Spurs are going to have to max out Kawhi Leonard), Tobias Harris (he really, really, REALLY and GENUINELY wants to play for the Knicks and you may actually be able to get him to sign for a little less than what he could get elsewhere), Kris Middleton (would probably have to scare the Bucks away with a larger than desired contract), Greg Monroe (the Pistons don't want him so it's a even playing field and his offensive skills are Triangle enabled), Reggie Jackson, etc.

Realistic trades if the Knicks were to look to trade their pick? That's a whole other discussion that probably 99.44% of this board doesn't want to go to cause they don't want Jackson to trade the pick. It would be worth a discussion IMO, but you'll just get a lot of static.