Game 5 PG: Welp.....We Battled

[Trader_Joe]

Also, mad props to AA.
This guy deserves a nice contract this off-season, but we won't be able to give it to him. Hopefully he comes back for cheap. He's our best defender and vital tot his team.

And I really really hope people didn't think D.Will was back after one game. This guy is still a bum. He needed to come out aggressive and test his game early on and he didn't. We finally get a decent shooting game from JJ, and Lopez and D.Will have stinkers.. figures.

[Prokorov]

Would like to see an example of a NBA player this season who had a 10 minute increase in playing time from reg season to playoffs. Even Tim Duncan who is rested a lot in the reg season, only sees a 7 minute increase. And Tim Duncan is an unique case in the first place.

again... its not like he just wore down towards the end of these games. the guy was in slow motion from the opening tipoff. Also, i woudln't call it a 10 minute increase. his 29 minute per game average in the regular season is greatly skewed by the duration hollins had him coming off the bench and wasnt playing him in 4th quarters. (33 mpg in march, 34 mpg in april)

The excuse making is next-level here. I also love the double standard. People said it was no excuse for joe to be burned out... joe is 33 and played 3000 minutes and its not an excuse. but lopez is walking up and down the quarter in the first quarter and out of half time and its "hey give brook a break he is tired"

well give the baby a bottle and a nap.

the dude is getting an enormous free pass here. people bash dwill and joe and bring up their contracts all the time. lopez is also a MAX player. id like it if my max player could somehow muster up the guts and fortitiude to get through the first 10 minutes of a game without needing an inhaler. i know those 2200 minutes he played must have really been taxing all year... and 5 games in the first round is just an enormous extra load. but maybe he can use some of that 17M he is being paid and find someome to help him work on his conditioning.

When did lopez become some sacred cow above criticism? he was great and was a huge reason he got here, that doesnt make him above criticism, especially for something like conditioning and effort.

[Prokorov]

If you are not accustomed to playing heavy minutes in the regular season, it will bother you come postseason. Especially for a big man who has to carry us every trip down. It happened to Anthony Davis.

In terms of Brook's minutes...it's not some two game sample average.

Game 5: 38 minutes
Game 4: 42 minutes
Game 3: 41 minutes
Game 2: 39 minutes
Game 1: 35 minutes (only due to foul trouble)

so in other words, like i said, he only topped 40 minutes twice. and it doesnt matter why he played 35 minutes in game 1, he still only played 35 minutes. and no, he doesnt have to carry us every trip down, and certainly has not in this series. alot of guys have done heavy lifting this series. brook didnt carry jack last night. dwill carried us in game 4. bogs was our big gun in game 3.

"not accustomed to big minutes in the regular season?

here are his last 15 games of the regular season by minutes:

33, 34, 31, 32,39, 32, 44, 34, 40,40,38,39, 35, 31, 41


the excuse making here is completely shameless. there is abslutely no excuse for it.

you keep brining up plumlees poor playing forcing brook into big minutes... but still have not heard a response on why brook is gassed and walking around TO START GAMES AND HALVES?

if you are gassed and tipoff and gassed to start the second half that isnt playing too many minutes? did brook play a 40 minute pickup game before the real game started or something?

[Prokorov]

Also, mad props to AA.
This guy deserves a nice contract this off-season, but we won't be able to give it to him. Hopefully he comes back for cheap. He's our best defender and vital tot his team.

why cant we give it to him? we will have the LLE and could very well have the MLE as well.

And I really really hope people didn't think D.Will was back after one game. This guy is still a bum. He needed to come out aggressive and test his game early on and he didn't. We finally get a decent shooting game from JJ, and Lopez and D.Will have stinkers.. figures.

i didnt think he "was back" but was hoping for alot more then 5 point 5 assists and playing with a deer in headlights look. its even more inexcusable now that we know he is healthy enough to produce after seeing game 4.

if he gives us even 12/6 type efforts we can beat them. i dont need 35/10

[Gordon]

Nets lost that game on effort and hustle. Hawks scored 10 or so points of broken plays and loose balls. Nets didn't get any of them. Thought Anderson should have played more in the 4th quarter. Bogs and D-Will where not lighting in up. Brook was terrible at both ends. No center takes as many bad shots as him. Feels like squandered opportunity, but need to win the next one and get back to Atlanta for game 7. Still have the punchers chance.

[MrDollarBills]

AA definitely has to be resigned, he plays like he gives a damn. There is nothing negative I can say about him, he is not a star but he is a guy I enjoy being apart of the Nets, he looked around at everyone else playing like pussies and took the bull by the horns.

The moment we went down by double digits Hollins should have glued D-Will and Bojan to the bench for Jack and Anderson. You could tell from the very start that neither of them were going to bring it and Brook just reverting back to pre ASB Brook at the worst time just compounded that.

I don't have any confidence going into Game 6. We CANNOT WIN without D-Will showing up. Period. The guy simply does not give a **** about the sport, his teammates, the fans, nothing.

Stretch the mother **** and be done with him. No one in their right mind will want a cancer like him on their team.

[Trader_Joe]

Also, mad props to AA.
This guy deserves a nice contract this off-season, but we won't be able to give it to him. Hopefully he comes back for cheap. He's our best defender and vital tot his team.

why cant we give it to him? we will have the LLE and could very well have the MLE as well.

And I really really hope people didn't think D.Will was back after one game. This guy is still a bum. He needed to come out aggressive and test his game early on and he didn't. We finally get a decent shooting game from JJ, and Lopez and D.Will have stinkers.. figures.

i didnt think he "was back" but was hoping for alot more then 5 point 5 assists and playing with a deer in headlights look. its even more inexcusable now that we know he is healthy enough to produce after seeing game 4.

if he gives us even 12/6 type efforts we can beat them. i dont need 35/10

We aren't guaranteed to have the MLE and LLE unless Lopez walks.
We will have the tax payer exception most likely

And yes.. I know most of us knew better, but I also know how reactionary some are.

[Paradise]

If you are not accustomed to playing heavy minutes in the regular season, it will bother you come postseason. Especially for a big man who has to carry us every trip down. It happened to Anthony Davis.

In terms of Brook's minutes...it's not some two game sample average.

Game 5: 38 minutes
Game 4: 42 minutes
Game 3: 41 minutes
Game 2: 39 minutes
Game 1: 35 minutes (only due to foul trouble)

so in other words, like i said, he only topped 40 minutes twice. and it doesnt matter why he played 35 minutes in game 1, he still only played 35 minutes. and no, he doesnt have to carry us every trip down, and certainly has not in this series. alot of guys have done heavy lifting this series. brook didnt carry jack last night. dwill carried us in game 4. bogs was our big gun in game 3.

"not accustomed to big minutes in the regular season?

here are his last 15 games of the regular season by minutes:

33, 34, 31, 32,39, 32, 44, 34, 40,40,38,39, 35, 31, 41


the excuse making here is completely shameless. there is abslutely no excuse for it.

you keep brining up plumlees poor playing forcing brook into big minutes... but still have not heard a response on why brook is gassed and walking around TO START GAMES AND HALVES?

if you are gassed and tipoff and gassed to start the second half that isnt playing too many minutes? did brook play a 40 minute pickup game before the real game started or something?

I did explain why he looked tired from the jump.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SBondyNYDN/status/593758315617853442[/tweet]

[Prokorov]

I did explain why he looked tired from the jump.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SBondyNYDN/status/593758315617853442[/tweet]

how does this explain why lopez was tired from the jump? where they going to hack a plumlee in the pregame warmups

im fine if brook is gassed late. when he is playing like the to start the game and start the half is where its an issue for me.

[Dirk]

I think the biggest question is how your brightest prospect isn't good enough or trusted to give you some 15-20 good energy minutes. It's pretty crazy that a team badly needing energy and athleticism can't use Plumlee.

These games in Atlanta were all winnable. But Deron Williams didn't show up to any of them. Joe Johnson goes missing for prolonged stretches. Young and Bogdanovic very underwhelming. Lopez was solid, but not spectacular. It's almost surprising how you managed to hang in there tanks to great performances from Jack in all three(although in this was he was pretty bad to start the game)... and then that surreal Alan Anderson game.

This bunch of renegades has really risen to the occasion and made this a series. Not once getting blown out. Several times responding to double digit leads. You can't question their commitment(*I know MrDog, except DWill). Playing only seven guys though, a couple of high profile old bodies, it's not surprising Lopez's feet are even more glued to cement, you've been riding him hard to finish the year. Yesterday was the series. The Nets don't have the legs to win two in a row, but it would be fun to witness a game 7.

[Prokorov]

I think the biggest question is how your brightest prospect isn't good enough or trusted to give you some 15-20 good energy minutes. It's pretty crazy that a team badly needing energy and athleticism can't use Plumlee.

These games in Atlanta were all winnable. But Deron Williams didn't show up to any of them. Joe Johnson goes missing for prolonged stretches. Young and Bogdanovic very underwhelming. Lopez was solid, but not spectacular. It's almost surprising how you managed to hang in there tanks to great performances from Jack in all three(although in this was he was pretty bad to start the game)... and then that surreal Alan Anderson game.

You cant expect thad and bogs to play well on the road. anything they give you is a plus. role guys struggle on the road in the playoffs, that is just the way it seems to go. neither is lacking in effort though, which is some consolation. i expect both to be better at home in game 6.

This bunch of renegades has really risen to the occasion and made this a series. Not once getting blown out. Several times responding to double digit leads. You can't question their commitment(*I know MrDog, except DWill). Playing only seven guys though, a couple of high profile old bodies, it's not surprising Lopez's feet are even more glued to cement, you've been riding him hard to finish the year. Yesterday was the series. The Nets don't have the legs to win two in a row, but it would be fun to witness a game 7.

i dont think the series is over. they havent won in our building and after watching games 1,2,5 im not convinced we cant win there. but we need to winf riday before we can even talk about a game 7.

- we need something from deron. anything. he cant give us darius morris type impact. i dont need 20+ points, but give me at least like 12/6

-Lopez needs to provide more energy. fatigued or not, this is our last game of the season if we lose, find a way to muster the energy. 2 rebounds in 39 minutes is a joke. tired or not you are playing against guys 6'7"-6'10". you should be getting 5 rebounds in 39 minutes just by being on the floor. 0 offensive rebounds hurts mroe. we need second chance points from them and we need to get them committing 5 guys to rebounding to limit their runouts

- joe need to hit 3s and continue to rebound. bogs need to continue to hit 3s

-we need to sort out the overhelping problem, but other then that, our D is doing fine.