Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2)

closg00 · Post #1521 » by **closg00** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:17 pm

payitforward wrote:Stealth candidate to replace Ernie Grunfeld?

Spoiler:
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/237493/Drummond-I-Want-Draymond-Green-On-Pistons

By the time Ernie retires this guy might be old enough to be a GM.

#FireErnie ~ Because he believed Stephen Curry couldn't help us and Jan Vesely could.

closg00 · Post #1522 » by **closg00** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:18 pm

FAH1223 · Post #1523 » by **FAH1223** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:44 pm

nuposse04 wrote:
payitforward wrote:Stealth candidate to replace Ernie Grunfeld?

Spoiler:
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/237493/Drummond-I-Want-Draymond-Green-On-Pistons

Never trust a player who can't make free throws

2030... Drummond's first job after retirement

FAH1223 · Post #1524 » by **FAH1223** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:11 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/HoopDistrictDC/status/591243135197569024[/tweet]

:lol:

DCZards · Post #1525 » by **DCZards** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:31 pm

Hey FAH, this must have been a tough past week for you...given that you're rooting for the Zards to lose to the Raptors.

dckingsfan · Post #1526 » by **dckingsfan** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:52 pm

hehehe - never thought of you as liking to troll DCZards...

tontoz · Post #1527 » by **tontoz** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:21 pm

dckingsfan wrote:hehehe - never thought of you as liking to troll DCZards...

He clowned JVes after the last game, pointing out that JVes was talking about starting Temple over Beal

. He got hands not long ago about Porter's playing time. Hands was fine with Porter's lack of time.

I think we are a bad influence on him.

DCZards · Post #1528 » by **DCZards** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:46 pm

dckingsfan wrote:hehehe - never thought of you as liking to troll DCZards...

Trolling? Nah. Just bustin' chops.

dckingsfan · Post #1529 » by **dckingsfan** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:40 pm

DCZards wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:hehehe - never thought of you as liking to troll DCZards...

Trolling? Nah. Just bustin' chops.

Did you ever put your win prediction in?

DCZards · Post #1530 » by **DCZards** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:40 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
DCZards wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:hehehe - never thought of you as liking to troll DCZards...

Trolling? Nah. Just bustin' chops.

Did you ever put your win prediction in?

Sure did. And I know exactly how many wins I predicted. But I'll let you do that research since you seem to be concerned about it.

dckingsfan · Post #1531 » by **dckingsfan** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:43 pm

DCZards wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
DCZards wrote:
Trolling? Nah. Just bustin' chops.

Did you ever put your win prediction in?

Sure did. And I know exactly how many wins I predicted. But I'll let you do that research since you seem to be concerned about it.

Seems like you and FAH split the difference

closg00 · Post #1532 » by **closg00** » Fri May 1, 2015 9:40 pm

GSW's Bob Myers was named Exec of the year. To be clear, this is how-much Ernie Grunfeld is respected by his peers. Here is the vote break-out.

Executive, Team 1st| 2nd| 3rd| Total

1.Bob Myers, Golden State 13| 5| 2|82

2.David Griffin, Cleveland 8| 7| 8| 69

3.Mike Budenholzer, Atlanta 4| 5| 1|36

4.Danny Ainge, Boston 1| 3| 2| 16

5.Gar Forman, Chicago 1| 2| 3| 14

6.Neil Olshey, Portland 2| 1| 1| 14

7.Daryl Morey, Houston -| 2| 2| 8

8.Stan Van Gundy, Detroit 1|-- --| 5

9.Sam Presti, Oklahoma City --| 1|1| 4

10.Dell Demps, New Orleans --| --| 3| 3

11.Flip Saunders, Minnesota --| 1| --| 3

12.John Hammond, Milwaukee --| 1| --| 3

13. Mitch Kupchak, L.A. Lakers --| 1| --| 3

dckingsfan · Post #1533 » by **dckingsfan** » Fri May 1, 2015 10:59 pm

OUCH!

queridiculo · Post #1534 » by **queridiculo** » Fri May 1, 2015 11:13 pm

That's not too bad, I'm sure his peers rank him somewhere between 14 and 30.

closg00 · Post #1535 » by **closg00** » Fri May 1, 2015 11:39 pm

queridiculo wrote:That's not too bad, I'm sure his peers rank him somewhere between 14 and 30.

I-guess, depends on how-low you set your expectations.

#FireErnie ~ Because he believed Stephen Curry couldn't help us and Jan Vesely could.

hands11 · Post #1536 » by **hands11** » Fri May 1, 2015 11:39 pm

Great lock room material for the Wizards.

Team still not getting enough respect.

I'm sure SAS is enjoying this list as well. :lol:

Post #1537 » by **montestewart** » Sat May 2, 2015 12:11 am

hands11 wrote:Great lock room material for the Wizards.

Team still not getting enough respect.

I'm sure SAS is enjoying this list as well.

The Spurs were largely riding on the team they had from last year, so it's not really a surprise that they wouldn't be on the list.

Grunfeld resigned Gortat and Gooden, signed Pierce, acquired Humphries and Blair, traded for Sessions during the season, made good use of TPEs and cap space. Not great, and not without flaws, but pretty good. Maybe it's just by comparison to his past that it seems as good as it does to me, or maybe it will just take time for a changed Grunfeld to earn respect. Or maybe everything will revert to the norm in a year or two and everyone will say, "Told ya so."

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #1538 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue May 5, 2015 1:03 pm

(GOOD THING WE HAVE JOHN WALL)

CONGRATS TO STEPH CURRY, NBA MVP

Milellie111, a "great GM" once traded the 5th pick (no-brainer Steph Curry I thought back then) for ONE YEAR EACH of Randy Foye and Mike Miller.

The Wizards won 26 games.

The Warriors selected Steph Curry.

When you post Grunfeld is a great GM, I say that perhaps he's had a good 2014 (great would mean he kept Jordan Clarkson). If Washington wins this series against Atlanta, I will be HAPPY FOR EG AND WITTMAN.

God blessed the Wizards with the top pick who is John Wall. Maybe when/if the Wizards have 60 wins, John can be MVP.

I am very happy with how things worked out so far...

But t remember posting draft Seth Curry and Dejuan Blair years ago.

I hope for a Curry vs Wall showdown in the Finals....this year or next or whenever.

payitforward · Post #1539 » by **payitforward** » Tue May 5, 2015 1:06 pm

John Wall is a terrific player, one of the top PGs in the league. Is he in Steph Curry's class as an NBA player? No. And we do him no service to try to claim otherwise. It's not like Curry being *more* makes Wall be *less.*

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #1540 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue May 5, 2015 1:38 pm

payitforward wrote:John Wall is a terrific player, one of the top PGs in the league. Is he in Steph Curry's class as an NBA player? No. And we do him no service to try to claim otherwise. It's not like Curry being *more* makes Wall be *less.*

This thread is NOT intended to make comparisons.

"I am only responsible for what I said, not what you understand."

My purpose was to give milellie111 a counterview.

I have thought if the Wizards had drafted Curry, would he be this good? No way they would have drafted Wall. Things are looking good now...but EG is lucky to be GM in my opinion.

Payitforward, I put the Wall disclaimer up because a lot of posters read into things, start spurious and fractious arguments, etc. It's like they cannot discuss the absurdity of Foye and Mike Miller for someone who we KNEW would be good. Like Neil Everett, no way did I foresee Curry being the MVP.

I just knew on that draft night Ernie screwed up big time.

Milellie111, the past is the past.

I am PUMPED for this game. Ernie and Wittman have a very cohesive, tough bunch of players. I am not mad. Just hope that you have empathy for those who think you are trolling.

IS IT TIME TO FIRE ERNIE GRUNFELD?