Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy

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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#341 » by Jvaughn » Sat May 2, 2015 4:28 pm

MAQ wrote:Dunleavy definitely has to be suspended one game


I thought so too. Nba does not agree. Lol
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#342 » by j-ragg » Sat May 2, 2015 4:29 pm

Maybe if he didn't like what Dunleavy was doing he should have done something about it face to face like a man. Not charge at him when he's not looking at you. Thats some punk **** and that's why he is a punk now in my eyes.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#343 » by Zombiesonics » Sat May 2, 2015 4:31 pm

j-ragg wrote:Maybe if he didn't like what Dunleavy was doing he should have done something about it face to face like a man. Not charge at him when he's not looking at you. Thats some punk **** and that's why he is a punk now in my eyes.


he is 20...

dunleavy chopping dudes in the throat mid air is much more punkish than just leveling somebody.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#344 » by j-ragg » Sat May 2, 2015 4:33 pm

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j-ragg wrote:Maybe if he didn't like what Dunleavy was doing he should have done something about it face to face like a man. Not charge at him when he's not looking at you. Thats some punk **** and that's why he is a punk now in my eyes.


he is 20...

dunleavy chopping dudes in the throat mid air is much more punkish than just leveling somebody.

When did 20 become 12? He's an adult.

I don't like what Dunleavy did either. But I don't think they're very comparable.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#345 » by Indomitable » Sat May 2, 2015 4:36 pm

Bucksmaniac wrote:Now the news has come out that all Dunleavy will receive for his efforts is a Flagrant One, and no suspension. Good job NBA! :crazy: The precedent you're setting is that players will not be punished if they can get away with cheap shots, but the moment the other team retaliates, it will be an ejection and suspension (I'm pretty sure Giannis will be getting a suspension, even though he retaliated rather than instigated this situation. So awful.

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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#346 » by MaliBrah » Sat May 2, 2015 4:38 pm

dunleavy punches a guys teeth out while he's driving to the basket , and has two other incidents where he targets someone above the neck. no suspension... incredible
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#347 » by Indomitable » Sat May 2, 2015 4:39 pm

j-ragg wrote:
Zombiesonics wrote:
j-ragg wrote:Maybe if he didn't like what Dunleavy was doing he should have done something about it face to face like a man. Not charge at him when he's not looking at you. Thats some punk **** and that's why he is a punk now in my eyes.


he is 20...

dunleavy chopping dudes in the throat mid air is much more punkish than just leveling somebody.

When did 20 become 12? He's an adult.

I don't like what Dunleavy did either. But I don't think they're very comparable.

Exactly but people are not trying to be thoughtful.
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Post#348 » by CellarDoor » Sat May 2, 2015 4:47 pm

th87 wrote:For those of you (so far only Bulls fans) who think that the series was dirty both ways, what did the Bucks do that was equivalent to:

- Dunleavy punching a defenseless MCW in the face/throat
- Dunleavy pushing Giannis in the throat
- Brooks elbowing Bayless in the chest
- Gibson elbowing Mayo in the head
- Mirotic slamming Zaza on the ground

?

All of them looked intentional.

I'll give you the Zaza elbow (not as bad as the Gibson elbow though) and the Giannis body check.

The Bulls definitely seemed dirtier.


- Dunleavy punching a defenseless MCW in the face/throat
---Looks pretty bad. Not a smart play.
- Dunleavy pushing Giannis in the throat
---This one is weak. Giannis flops a bit to make it worse. There obviously wasn't enough force to really endanger anyone.
- Brooks elbowing Bayless in the chest
---I have absolutely not recollection of this...maybe I missed it?
- Gibson elbowing Mayo in the head
---Stupid play by Gibson
- Mirotic slamming Zaza on the ground
---on that same play Zaza threw himself back into Nikola when they were on the ground, basically trying to reverse headbutt him. I remember calling this one out specifically.

On the Bucks' side...
-Zaza's elbow on Miro, which to me was pretty weak and not deserving of a technical.
-Zaza's reverse headbutt. This was worse to me.
-Giannis' tackle
-Giannis trying to trip Butler from the ground on a Bulls' fast break. I still maintain this is the worst of the Bucks' ones. Mainly because you're grabbing near knees and if Butler lost balance he's taking out Rose too.

So, five to Chicago, four to Milwaukee (though the video a few pages back of the rebound with Dunleavy and Giannis could easily match against Miro's "slam" for me. Giannis has to go out of his way to REhook Dunleavy's arm.) From the one's I've seen I'd say worst to best (considering circumstance, potential for injury, etc, intention, etc)
Dunleavy punch
Giannis trip
Giannis tackle
Gibson elbow
Zaza headbutt
Dunleavy's "throat push", Zaza's Eblow, Miro "slam"
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#349 » by Bucksmaniac » Sat May 2, 2015 5:01 pm

Note that of all the skirmishes in this series (and there were definitely ones on both sides), the only players who got ejected were both Bucks. Dunleavy was the worst offender of them all, and the only punishment he got was a single Flagrant One foul. If the NBA is trying to improve their perception of not being biased for big market teams, they did a pretty poor job in this series.
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Post#350 » by stillgotgame » Sat May 2, 2015 5:05 pm

So Dunleavy punches MCW and gets a flagrant 1, while JR Smith punches Crowder and gets suspended 2 games.

Smells fishy to me. Woud be good to hear an explanation from the NBA.
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Post#351 » by GinWeary » Sat May 2, 2015 5:13 pm

The rationale supporting Giannis and his body check in this thread is amusing. I am not a huge Dunleavy fan myself, but to compare MDJ's actions, specifically the "Push Punch" on MCW and what Giannis did is absurd.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#352 » by Dcebucks11 » Sat May 2, 2015 5:17 pm

CellarDoor wrote:
th87 wrote:For those of you (so far only Bulls fans) who think that the series was dirty both ways, what did the Bucks do that was equivalent to:

- Dunleavy punching a defenseless MCW in the face/throat
- Dunleavy pushing Giannis in the throat
- Brooks elbowing Bayless in the chest
- Gibson elbowing Mayo in the head
- Mirotic slamming Zaza on the ground

?

All of them looked intentional.

I'll give you the Zaza elbow (not as bad as the Gibson elbow though) and the Giannis body check.

The Bulls definitely seemed dirtier.


- Dunleavy punching a defenseless MCW in the face/throat
---Looks pretty bad. Not a smart play.
- Dunleavy pushing Giannis in the throat
---This one is weak. Giannis flops a bit to make it worse. There obviously wasn't enough force to really endanger anyone.
- Brooks elbowing Bayless in the chest
---I have absolutely not recollection of this...maybe I missed it?
- Gibson elbowing Mayo in the head
---Stupid play by Gibson
- Mirotic slamming Zaza on the ground
---on that same play Zaza threw himself back into Nikola when they were on the ground, basically trying to reverse headbutt him. I remember calling this one out specifically.

On the Bucks' side...
-Zaza's elbow on Miro, which to me was pretty weak and not deserving of a technical.
-Zaza's reverse headbutt. This was worse to me.
-Giannis' tackle
-Giannis trying to trip Butler from the ground on a Bulls' fast break. I still maintain this is the worst of the Bucks' ones. Mainly because you're grabbing near knees and if Butler lost balance he's taking out Rose too.

So, five to Chicago, four to Milwaukee (though the video a few pages back of the rebound with Dunleavy and Giannis could easily match against Miro's "slam" for me. Giannis has to go out of his way to REhook Dunleavy's arm.) From the one's I've seen I'd say worst to best (considering circumstance, potential for injury, etc, intention, etc)
Dunleavy punch
Giannis trip
Giannis tackle
Gibson elbow
Zaza headbutt
Dunleavy's "throat push", Zaza's Eblow, Miro "slam"


butler flopped when he got "ripped to the ground" he barely got grazed.. :lol:
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Post#353 » by th87 » Sat May 2, 2015 5:18 pm

GinWeary wrote:The rationale supporting Giannis and his body check in this thread is amusing. I am not a huge Dunleavy fan myself, but to compare MDJ's actions, specifically the "Push Punch" on MCW and what Giannis did is absurd.


It says a lot when the only apologists for Dunleavy's actions are Bulls fans (and not even all of them), where Giannis is being defended by many different fanbases.
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Post#354 » by Bucksmaniac » Sat May 2, 2015 5:22 pm

GinWeary wrote:The rationale supporting Giannis and his body check in this thread is amusing. I am not a huge Dunleavy fan myself, but to compare MDJ's actions, specifically the "Push Punch" on MCW and what Giannis did is absurd.


The only way Dunleavy was going to even get a Flagrant One foul retroactively added was if Giannis retaliated like he did. It really should've been a suspension, given his history in this series and in general with cheap shots (and considering Giannis will get an ejection and suspension for sticking up for himself and his team (albeit in a dumb, naive way).
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Post#355 » by GinWeary » Sat May 2, 2015 5:22 pm

th87 wrote:
GinWeary wrote:The rationale supporting Giannis and his body check in this thread is amusing. I am not a huge Dunleavy fan myself, but to compare MDJ's actions, specifically the "Push Punch" on MCW and what Giannis did is absurd.


It says a lot when the only apologists for Dunleavy's actions are Bulls fans (and not even all of them).


Did I say that MDJ's actions are excusable? Nope, don't think so. I am not a fan of what he did either. But throwing your whole body weight into another players ribs, knocking him into the knees of the courtside crowd is way worse and more dangerous than a weak punch. I don't care which two teams were involved or which two players.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#356 » by Teh-Monkey-Man » Sat May 2, 2015 5:24 pm

th87 wrote:
GinWeary wrote:The rationale supporting Giannis and his body check in this thread is amusing. I am not a huge Dunleavy fan myself, but to compare MDJ's actions, specifically the "Push Punch" on MCW and what Giannis did is absurd.


It says a lot when the only apologists for Dunleavy's actions are Bulls fans (and not even all of them), where Giannis is being defended by many different fanbases.

It means they don't have the mentality of a winner. If people think a player is ganna go anywhere in the playoffs doing stuff like that, they are crazy. Its the playoffs. Things get scrappy. Deal with it or get eliminated
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Post#357 » by AwkwardDuck » Sat May 2, 2015 5:27 pm

th87 wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:Hey guys, remember when the Bulls won by 54? With Mike Dunleavy punking two of the three best Bucks players?

That was a fun time.

It should be all good now, right? I still love Milwaukee. It's my favorite Chicago suburb.


Hey, congratulations on the victory of the group of dudes you identify with due to arbitrary geographical circumstances.

And by all means, please do act like you had something to do with it.


If thats how you see being a fan is.
Why the hell are you still rooting for the Bucks?
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Post#358 » by Dcebucks11 » Sat May 2, 2015 5:27 pm

GinWeary wrote:
th87 wrote:
GinWeary wrote:The rationale supporting Giannis and his body check in this thread is amusing. I am not a huge Dunleavy fan myself, but to compare MDJ's actions, specifically the "Push Punch" on MCW and what Giannis did is absurd.


It says a lot when the only apologists for Dunleavy's actions are Bulls fans (and not even all of them).


Did I say that MDJ's actions are excusable? Nope, don't think so. I am not a fan of what he did either. But throwing your whole body weight into another players ribs, knocking him into the knees of the courtside crowd is way worse and more dangerous than a weak punch. I don't care which two teams were involved or which two players.


What giannis did was wrong, def wrong but..

[tweet]https://twitter.com/AronYohannes/status/594186137305948160[/tweet]

how is dunleavy doing btw?
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Post#359 » by GinWeary » Sat May 2, 2015 5:32 pm

Dcebucks11 wrote:
GinWeary wrote:
th87 wrote:
It says a lot when the only apologists for Dunleavy's actions are Bulls fans (and not even all of them).


Did I say that MDJ's actions are excusable? Nope, don't think so. I am not a fan of what he did either. But throwing your whole body weight into another players ribs, knocking him into the knees of the courtside crowd is way worse and more dangerous than a weak punch. I don't care which two teams were involved or which two players.


What giannis did was wrong, def wrong but..

[tweet]https://twitter.com/AronYohannes/status/594186137305948160[/tweet]

how is dunleavy doing btw?


We are comparing a few loose teeth to potential broken ribs? Again, I'm not condoning what MDJ did, but in comparing the plays on how dirty they were, Giannis' was way worse.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#360 » by th87 » Sat May 2, 2015 5:32 pm

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th87 wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:Hey guys, remember when the Bulls won by 54? With Mike Dunleavy punking two of the three best Bucks players?

That was a fun time.

It should be all good now, right? I still love Milwaukee. It's my favorite Chicago suburb.


Hey, congratulations on the victory of the group of dudes you identify with due to arbitrary geographical circumstances.

And by all means, please do act like you had something to do with it.


If thats how you see being a fan is.
Why the hell are you still rooting for the Bucks?


Because I like them. But what you don't see me do is talk trash to other fanbases for my team's victory, because it's not like I did anything.

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