Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy

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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#361 » by AwkwardDuck » Sat May 2, 2015 5:36 pm

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Hey, congratulations on the victory of the group of dudes you identify with due to arbitrary geographical circumstances.

And by all means, please do act like you had something to do with it.


If thats how you see being a fan is.
Why the hell are you still rooting for the Bucks?


Because I like them. But what you don't see me do is talk trash to other fanbases for my team's victory, because it's not like I did anything.


Touché. I only do when provoked. But on a message board there are always a few bad fans per team. Great run, I honestly believed a sweep.
On topic, Mike's pretty sneaky. Lucky for no suspension.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#362 » by th87 » Sat May 2, 2015 5:40 pm

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GinWeary wrote:The rationale supporting Giannis and his body check in this thread is amusing. I am not a huge Dunleavy fan myself, but to compare MDJ's actions, specifically the "Push Punch" on MCW and what Giannis did is absurd.


It says a lot when the only apologists for Dunleavy's actions are Bulls fans (and not even all of them).


Did I say that MDJ's actions are excusable? Nope, don't think so. I am not a fan of what he did either. But throwing your whole body weight into another players ribs, knocking him into the knees of the courtside crowd is way worse and more dangerous than a weak punch. I don't care which two teams were involved or which two players.


Dangerous how? Every QB takes this kind of hit (at least) on virtually every play. Different sports, yes, but the human body takes the same punishment without issues.

Closed fists out towards the face/throat of a player coming down from a jump is more dangerous.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#363 » by th87 » Sat May 2, 2015 5:43 pm

AwkwardDuck wrote::evil:
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If thats how you see being a fan is.
Why the hell are you still rooting for the Bucks?


Because I like them. But what you don't see me do is talk trash to other fanbases for my team's victory, because it's not like I did anything.


Touché. I only do when provoked. But on a message board there are always a few bad fans per team. Great run, I honestly believed a sweep.
On topic, Mike's pretty sneaky. Lucky for no suspension.


I hear you - thanks. Most Bulls fans have been pretty cool around here.

I wish we had tanked still, but this was fun (kind of).
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#364 » by Yoshun » Sat May 2, 2015 5:50 pm

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It says a lot when the only apologists for Dunleavy's actions are Bulls fans (and not even all of them).


Did I say that MDJ's actions are excusable? Nope, don't think so. I am not a fan of what he did either. But throwing your whole body weight into another players ribs, knocking him into the knees of the courtside crowd is way worse and more dangerous than a weak punch. I don't care which two teams were involved or which two players.


Dangerous how? Every QB takes this kind of hit (at least) on virtually every play. Different sports, yes, but the human body takes the same punishment without issues.

Closed fists out towards the face/throat of a player coming down from a jump is more dangerous.


What Giannis did was extremely dangerous. He smashed into a player's ribs while he was in mid air. A play like that can result in numerous injuries including broken ribs and a concussion. It happens to football players all the time when they get hit like that and they wear pads and a helmet.

If you want to say what Dunleavy did was dangerous, fine I agree, but lets not pretend Giannis' hit was somehow safe.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#365 » by yoyoboy » Sat May 2, 2015 5:59 pm

The fact that Dunleavy didn't get suspended for a game - not even fined! - is a complete joke. He pushed MCW in the neck and then punched him in the face in the same game! MCW had to get his chipped teeth moved back into place. I mean wtf!
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Post#366 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sat May 2, 2015 6:13 pm

It makes no sense at all- I cannot understand why Dunleavy was not suspended- seems like a big double standard. I know he doesn't have the same checkered past as JR Smith, but his actions were definitely worthy of a one game suspension
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#367 » by KrazyP » Sat May 2, 2015 6:19 pm

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Did I say that MDJ's actions are excusable? Nope, don't think so. I am not a fan of what he did either. But throwing your whole body weight into another players ribs, knocking him into the knees of the courtside crowd is way worse and more dangerous than a weak punch. I don't care which two teams were involved or which two players.


What giannis did was wrong, def wrong but..

[tweet]https://twitter.com/AronYohannes/status/594186137305948160[/tweet]

how is dunleavy doing btw?


We are comparing a few loose teeth to potential broken ribs? Again, I'm not condoning what MDJ did, but in comparing the plays on how dirty they were, Giannis' was way worse.


Hitting a guy in mid-air is a far more dangerous play than hitting them when they have their feet planted on the ground.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#368 » by MrSparkle » Sat May 2, 2015 6:21 pm

I mean, they were ejection-worthy calls if caught (the combo of the 2), but that's on the refs, not the league. I don't think those were suspension worthy, not even Giannis' hit. If MDJ was going for a lay-up that could've been bad, but at the 3P line it was ugly but not despicable. MDJ's hits weren't really punches. They were immobile shoves in the heat of things. Yes, dirty cheapshots, but I'm struggling to see the similarity to JR Smith's elbow. I do enjoy that the Cavs fans got the Bucks back. I guess they're really scared of Dunleavy. :lol:
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Post#369 » by nfmos » Sat May 2, 2015 6:32 pm

Yoshun wrote:
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Did I say that MDJ's actions are excusable? Nope, don't think so. I am not a fan of what he did either. But throwing your whole body weight into another players ribs, knocking him into the knees of the courtside crowd is way worse and more dangerous than a weak punch. I don't care which two teams were involved or which two players.


Dangerous how? Every QB takes this kind of hit (at least) on virtually every play. Different sports, yes, but the human body takes the same punishment without issues.

Closed fists out towards the face/throat of a player coming down from a jump is more dangerous.


What Giannis did was extremely dangerous. He smashed into a player's ribs while he was in mid air. A play like that can result in numerous injuries including broken ribs and a concussion. It happens to football players all the time when they get hit like that and they wear pads and a helmet.

If you want to say what Dunleavy did was dangerous, fine I agree, but lets not pretend Giannis' hit was somehow safe.


Can people stop trying to sensationalize this by saying Dunleavy was in mid-air? He had already landed when he got hit.

Its ridiculous that he didn't get suspended at least one game for this. Plays like the ones Dunleavy makes are the reasons that games become chippy later on, they need to start trying to nip that in the bud.
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Post#370 » by Leto » Sat May 2, 2015 6:33 pm

As a Bulls fan, I say cut the kid some slack. Yeah, he tackled him, but at least he didn't go Ron Artest and start throwing punches. He'll learn from this.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#371 » by GinWeary » Sat May 2, 2015 6:47 pm

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It says a lot when the only apologists for Dunleavy's actions are Bulls fans (and not even all of them).


Did I say that MDJ's actions are excusable? Nope, don't think so. I am not a fan of what he did either. But throwing your whole body weight into another players ribs, knocking him into the knees of the courtside crowd is way worse and more dangerous than a weak punch. I don't care which two teams were involved or which two players.


Dangerous how? Every QB takes this kind of hit (at least) on virtually every play. Different sports, yes, but the human body takes the same punishment without issues.

Closed fists out towards the face/throat of a player coming down from a jump is more dangerous.


Are you serious? Comparing padded football players who are expecting/anticipating a hit against a basketball player with no protection? Get real. And people are acting like MDJ threw a punch, there was no wind up, he didn't have his weight behind him with much momentum. It was hardly a punch.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#372 » by Yoshun » Sat May 2, 2015 6:50 pm

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Dangerous how? Every QB takes this kind of hit (at least) on virtually every play. Different sports, yes, but the human body takes the same punishment without issues.

Closed fists out towards the face/throat of a player coming down from a jump is more dangerous.


What Giannis did was extremely dangerous. He smashed into a player's ribs while he was in mid air. A play like that can result in numerous injuries including broken ribs and a concussion. It happens to football players all the time when they get hit like that and they wear pads and a helmet.

If you want to say what Dunleavy did was dangerous, fine I agree, but lets not pretend Giannis' hit was somehow safe.


Can people stop trying to sensationalize this by saying Dunleavy was in mid-air? He had already landed when he got hit.

Its ridiculous that he didn't get suspended at least one game for this. Plays like the ones Dunleavy makes are the reasons that games become chippy later on, they need to start trying to nip that in the bud.


:roll:

Fine you're right, he had his toes on the ground. He was completely unprotected and got hit by Giannis right under his shooting arm hard enough to easily knock him to the gound. It was a dangerous play.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#373 » by yoyoboy » Sat May 2, 2015 6:51 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/spearsnbayahoo/status/594569805773942785[/tweet]

And Dunleavy got off the hook. Unbelievable. Not saying Giannis shouldn't have gotten suspended but there's absolutely no excuse for Dunleavy to get off scotfree - not even a fine - for what he did.
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Post#374 » by Naloa » Sat May 2, 2015 7:05 pm

yoyoboy wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/spearsnbayahoo/status/594569805773942785[/tweet]

And Dunleavy got off the hook. Unbelievable. Not saying Giannis shouldn't have gotten suspended but there's absolutely no excuse for Dunleavy to get off scotfree - not even a fine - for what he did.


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Post#375 » by patagonia » Sat May 2, 2015 7:07 pm

MCW punched Dunleavy in the mouth later on in the game. Not sure why everyone is just ignoring that.
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Post#376 » by MCDubbin » Sat May 2, 2015 7:22 pm

It's ridiculous how Dunleavy didn't get suspended. Hitting someone in the throat while they are in the air is extremely dangerous. You mind as well not suspend JR either if you aren't going to suspend Dunleavy.
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Post#377 » by RoyalWun » Sat May 2, 2015 7:32 pm

Should have at the very least been a 1 game suspension.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#378 » by Leto » Sat May 2, 2015 8:04 pm

MCDubbin wrote:It's ridiculous how Dunleavy didn't get suspended. Hitting someone in the throat while they are in the air is extremely dangerous. You mind as well not suspend JR either if you aren't going to suspend Dunleavy.


I think the comparison would be to Perkins. Since Perkins should have been suspended for two games, I think Dunleavy should have gotten one. But, since Perkins didn't get squat, I don't think Dunleavy deserves anything, either.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#379 » by DrewBynum77 » Sat May 2, 2015 8:12 pm

Bucksmaniac wrote:Now the news has come out that all Dunleavy will receive for his efforts is a Flagrant One, and no suspension. Good job NBA! :crazy: The precedent you're setting is that players will not be punished if they can get away with cheap shots, but the moment the other team retaliates, it will be an ejection and suspension (I'm pretty sure Giannis will be getting a suspension, even though he retaliated rather than instigated this situation. So awful.


Dangerous precedent. If you can get away with punching your opponent in the face while he goes for a lay up then I hope we don't see a brawl once players get tired out of this bs.

Just look if someone tries this against a Lebron, Curry, Rose, Harden, etc. The teammates would be encouraged to retaliate on the opposing team superstar, which can lead to a brawl.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#380 » by DrewBynum77 » Sat May 2, 2015 8:15 pm

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MCDubbin wrote:It's ridiculous how Dunleavy didn't get suspended. Hitting someone in the throat while they are in the air is extremely dangerous. You mind as well not suspend JR either if you aren't going to suspend Dunleavy.


I think the comparison would be to Perkins. Since Perkins should have been suspended for two games, I think Dunleavy should have gotten one. But, since Perkins didn't get squat, I don't think Dunleavy deserves anything, either.


Perkins have the excuse that "he was setting up a screen and extended his arms to control the opposing player and accidentally hit the head with his fingers." Dunleavy just decided to punch an opposing player in the face / throat twice in the same game.

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