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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2641 » by malik959 » Tue May 5, 2015 10:27 pm

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Johnny Hoops wrote:The most impressive things about Danny Green for me are......

- he's a really good defender and can guard 1 thru 3 (he's sound, disciplined and tough -- plus he has + size/strength to defend)
- he's in constant movement, understands how to create space off ball movement and he takes good shots
- he's not a star but is a consummate team player
- he can stroke the 3 ball
- he's decent at driving and kicking (not great but decent)


Another note on Danny Green is if your team switches and he gets stuck on a big man he can hold his ground.


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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2642 » by god shammgod » Tue May 5, 2015 11:19 pm

2010 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:the computer is right. lot of luck involved.


the computer?


it's the nickname of a former poster who has rejoined us under a new account
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2643 » by 2010 » Wed May 6, 2015 12:12 am

god shammgod wrote:
2010 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:the computer is right. lot of luck involved.


the computer?


it's the nickname of a former poster who has rejoined us under a new account


Oh ok. Forgot his name but I think you talking about the capologist dude...
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2644 » by moocow007 » Wed May 6, 2015 6:12 pm

sportscrazy wrote:Assuming the latest projected $68 Million salary cap:

Greg Monroe - 4 year deal starting at $14 Million
Gary Neal, Mike Dunleavy and Brandon Bass - all to 1 year deals for $4.5 Million (a bit of an overpay to get them to sacrifice long-term deals elsewhere)
Cap MLE - Alexey Shved
Lance Thomas, Lou Amundson, Andrea Bargnani and Cole Aldrich all to 1 year minimums since they have a season of the triangle under their belts and can help move the other guys along.

C-Karl-Anthony Towns/Cole Aldrich/Lou Amundson
PF-Greg Monroe/Brandon Bass/Andrea Bargnani
SF-Carmelo Anthony/Mike Dunleavy Jr./Cleanthony Early
SG-Gary Neal/Tim Hardaway Jr./Lance Thomas
PG-Jose Calderon/Langston Galloway/Alexey Shved

Is that a good first step?


Gary Neal for $4.5 million? Pass. He's a career backup. He's started in just 29 of the 310 regular season games he's played in in the NBA. He's a poor defender (part of the reason the Spurs didn't want him back) and has had various injury problems. They'd be better off just starting Galloway instead of waisting $4.5 million on Neal. Neal made $3.2 million this past season (part of a 2 year deal) and it was dubious that he was worth even that. Don't see a reason to give him a raise even if it's to try to get him to sign for 1 year.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2645 » by aq_ua » Wed May 6, 2015 6:16 pm

2010 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
2010 wrote:
the computer?


it's the nickname of a former poster who has rejoined us under a new account


Oh ok. Forgot his name but I think you talking about the capologist dude...

No, the capologist dude is kosmo who still posts from time to te. The computer is the dude that doesn't actually watch basketball but draws conclusions based on random formulas.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2646 » by bballoctober » Wed May 6, 2015 6:53 pm

god shammgod wrote:
2010 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:the computer is right. lot of luck involved.


the computer?


it's the nickname of a former poster who has rejoined us under a new account

Sounds like nothing should have gotten him banned lol. I bet he went off on one of those crazy rants, uh ?!
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Tristan Thompson 

Post#2647 » by bleedblue3303 » Wed May 6, 2015 7:23 pm

What about Tristan Thompson as our starting PF next year? Still young about to hit his prime and potentially one of those guys you over pay a little hoping it winds up looking like a genius move if he continues to improve.
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Re: Tristan Thompson 

Post#2648 » by mpharris36 » Wed May 6, 2015 7:24 pm

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Re: Tristan Thompson 

Post#2649 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed May 6, 2015 7:34 pm

bleedblue3303 wrote:What about Tristan Thompson as our starting PF next year? Still young about to hit his prime and potentially one of those guys you over pay a little hoping it winds up looking like a genius move if he continues to improve.


You mean you want a guy who can't pass, can't shoot, and for some weird reason is a bad defensive rebounder (even though he's a great offensive one with nice athleticism)? No.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2650 » by mojosodope » Wed May 6, 2015 7:55 pm

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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2651 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed May 6, 2015 8:24 pm

mojosodope wrote:Pretty good read:

http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/ ... ed-player/


Still don't want him.
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Re: Tristan Thompson 

Post#2652 » by sasso » Wed May 6, 2015 8:26 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
bleedblue3303 wrote:What about Tristan Thompson as our starting PF next year? Still young about to hit his prime and potentially one of those guys you over pay a little hoping it winds up looking like a genius move if he continues to improve.


You mean you want a guy who can't pass, can't shoot, and for some weird reason is a bad defensive rebounder (even though he's a great offensive one with nice athleticism)? No.


Agreed. Hard pass on TT. He won't be worth the $12M+/year (yes he's getting that, and yes that's way too much). He's also only a good offensive rebounder because he just hangs out next to the basket on offense because he has no ability to stretch the floor. Ask Melo to do that and he'll get just as many OREBS.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2653 » by ohio » Wed May 6, 2015 8:26 pm

are you guys actually going after TT?

nice...
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2654 » by GONYK » Wed May 6, 2015 8:27 pm

ohio wrote:are you guys actually going after TT?

nice...


No
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2655 » by moocow007 » Wed May 6, 2015 8:38 pm

ohio wrote:are you guys actually going after TT?

nice...


Thompson is overrated for what he thinks he's worth (i.e. more than 4 years and $52 million aka $13 million a season that he already turned down). Definitely a thanks but no thanks here.
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Re: Tristan Thompson 

Post#2656 » by ohio » Wed May 6, 2015 8:40 pm

sasso wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
bleedblue3303 wrote:What about Tristan Thompson as our starting PF next year? Still young about to hit his prime and potentially one of those guys you over pay a little hoping it winds up looking like a genius move if he continues to improve.


You mean you want a guy who can't pass, can't shoot, and for some weird reason is a bad defensive rebounder (even though he's a great offensive one with nice athleticism)? No.


Agreed. Hard pass on TT. He won't be worth the $12M+/year (yes he's getting that, and yes that's way too much). He's also only a good offensive rebounder because he just hangs out next to the basket on offense because he has no ability to stretch the floor. Ask Melo to do that and he'll get just as many OREBS.

amazing logic... now if you can just clone melo and ask one of them to do this task.

maybe melo 5 can pull it off...

moocow007 wrote:
ohio wrote:are you guys actually going after TT?

nice...


Thompson is overrated for what he thinks he's worth (i.e. more than 4 years and $52 million aka $13 million a season that he already turned down). Definitely a thanks but no thanks here.


yeah, we're going to end up overpaying him which kind of sucks, if he can save our playoffs run though but I doubt it.
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Re: Tristan Thompson 

Post#2657 » by moocow007 » Wed May 6, 2015 8:45 pm

ohio wrote:
sasso wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
You mean you want a guy who can't pass, can't shoot, and for some weird reason is a bad defensive rebounder (even though he's a great offensive one with nice athleticism)? No.


Agreed. Hard pass on TT. He won't be worth the $12M+/year (yes he's getting that, and yes that's way too much). He's also only a good offensive rebounder because he just hangs out next to the basket on offense because he has no ability to stretch the floor. Ask Melo to do that and he'll get just as many OREBS.

amazing logic... now if you can just clone melo and ask one of them to do this task.

maybe melo 5 can pull it off...

moocow007 wrote:
ohio wrote:are you guys actually going after TT?

nice...


Thompson is overrated for what he thinks he's worth (i.e. more than 4 years and $52 million aka $13 million a season that he already turned down). Definitely a thanks but no thanks here.


yeah, we're going to end up overpaying him which kind of sucks, if he can save our playoffs run though but I doubt it.


Well maybe in the likelihood that he realizes no other team is going to offer him that, he'll accept less than what was offered and come back to the Cavs. That would be the best case scenario. And I do think that that scenario is actually very likely. Not saying that Thompson is not a good player, he is, but I don't think he's realistic about what his leverage will be. I can't see any team willing to go 4 years and $52 million (much less more than that) for him.
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Re: Tristan Thompson 

Post#2658 » by ohio » Wed May 6, 2015 8:48 pm

moocow007 wrote:
Well maybe in the likelihood that he realizes no other team is going to offer him that, he'll accept less than what was offered and come back to the Cavs. That would be the best case scenario. And I do think that that scenario is actually very likely. Not saying that Thompson is not a good player, he is, but I don't think he's realistic about what his leverage will be. I can't see any team willing to go 4 years and $52 million (much less more than that) for him.


this is what I'm hoping for also, I do want him to stay (obviously), but not at the cost that handicaps us, ultimately his role is off the bench on any real contender, he reminds me a lot of more athletic version of pre 2011 AV.
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Re: Tristan Thompson 

Post#2659 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed May 6, 2015 8:52 pm

ohio wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
Well maybe in the likelihood that he realizes no other team is going to offer him that, he'll accept less than what was offered and come back to the Cavs. That would be the best case scenario. And I do think that that scenario is actually very likely. Not saying that Thompson is not a good player, he is, but I don't think he's realistic about what his leverage will be. I can't see any team willing to go 4 years and $52 million (much less more than that) for him.


this is what I'm hoping for also, I do want him to stay (obviously), but not at the cost that handicaps us, ultimately his role is off the bench on any real contender, he reminds me a lot of more athletic version of pre 2011 AV.


You'd know your team a lot better than I do, as I haven't watched them much before this season, but AV always struck me as a much better off ball defender and passer. Again though, last time I watched them consistently / significantly before this season was back when they had LeBron the first time (he's always been one of my favorite players), so I could be off.
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Re: Tristan Thompson 

Post#2660 » by ohio » Wed May 6, 2015 8:56 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
ohio wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
Well maybe in the likelihood that he realizes no other team is going to offer him that, he'll accept less than what was offered and come back to the Cavs. That would be the best case scenario. And I do think that that scenario is actually very likely. Not saying that Thompson is not a good player, he is, but I don't think he's realistic about what his leverage will be. I can't see any team willing to go 4 years and $52 million (much less more than that) for him.


this is what I'm hoping for also, I do want him to stay (obviously), but not at the cost that handicaps us, ultimately his role is off the bench on any real contender, he reminds me a lot of more athletic version of pre 2011 AV.


You'd know your team a lot better than I do, as I haven't watched them much before this season, but AV always struck me as a much better off ball defender and passer. Again though, last time I watched them consistently / significantly before this season was back when they had LeBron the first time (he's always been one of my favorite players), so I could be off.


AV transformed his game after LeBron left, he was the high energy hustle guy who did absolutely everything needed to win prior to that, although not a rim protector, all of these are TT to me. Passing yes, although TT's passing has gotten better, if I remember correctly he only passed the ball few times total back in his rookie season after getting it, this has improved, but it literally started at zero.

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