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Re: The MoBro's Show 

Post#501 » by RunDogGun » Fri May 8, 2015 1:55 am

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SF88 wrote:Bro, do you find it funny that people in here are now referencing you for this topic after the same people bashed you and Kerrsed when you guys posted info about this months ago saying you don't know anything? :lol:

And what's funny is there are still people in here defending the twins acting as if they haven't lied or done anything wrong through all this :lol:


Can you stop with the bs, please. I never said he knew nothing. I said that the witness accounts differed greatly, meaning it's a he said she said situation, with zero evidence other than the differing witness accounts. None of this shows a defense of the twins. So if you want to continue looking dumb over this, be my guest.

Initially InLen said that Marcus may have gotten in some blows, now it's a definite? Seems as if the evidence is changing over time. Either way, if InLen's roommate says that Makieff didn't participate, and Hood says that he definitely did, then who is the liar?

Still doesn't seem like enough evidence to convict, which was my stance from the start. Now back to your regularly scheduled putting false claims on posters. :roll:

You still think that the Morris twins don't know the guy despite multiple reports stating that they've been mentors and long time family friends to the twins?

I don't know/care as much if they actually assaulted the guy as much as I care about whether or not they lied to the police department. Apparently 5 people assaulted the guy so Morris twins may or may not be among them. But we know for a fact what they told the police about knowing the victim and based on all "reports", its not true.

Regardless its pretty obvious that these guys are millionaires and will more than likely settle this outside.
so far the only source in every report I've seen or heard has Hood claiming he mentored them in high school. Multiple reports of his testimony doesn't change the single source. As for the so called "long time friendship", (again, only Hood's claims) the relationship was only in their early years in high school. And according to Hood, they haven't had any contact in four years. So a couple of so called years in high school six to seven years ago equals a long time family friend to the twins.

You don't know if they lied to the police. Again you are taking Hood's claims as evidence.

As for InLen's last claim of trying to contact them....wtf? How are we to varify that there was contact, and that message was received, and responded to?

Now I completely admit it was stupid to even be near a fight because of their ease of recognition. It's stupid to hang out with people that will start fights in public places where children are present. But there are tons of stupid players that often stupid things.

Again, we keep hearing the same stuff over and over, and everytime the same reports use Hood's claims, everyone here goes off. You've actually said I should apologize to InLen. For what? I didn't call him names. I never denied that his roommate was there, nor have I denied that the twins were there. I just question the differing witness accounts, one of which says the opposite of what Hood claims. Also, from listening to Hood's girlfriend's 911 tape (only 911 call I've heard), she claims there were ten people involved. It all sounds too fishy.

So could it be a possibility, that Hood wanted to mentor the twins, maybe in hope to represent them in the future, and they know of him, but not really know him? Do you remember everyone you met seven years ago? Now imagine going to college being basketball stars, and then going to the NBA. Good chance they remember his name, but not know him, hence not a lie.
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Re: The MoBro's Show 

Post#502 » by In Len We Trust » Fri May 8, 2015 2:04 am

I said long before the police report came out that the fight involved their mom and I was right. Can we stop acting like I'm full of **** please?
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Post#503 » by In Len We Trust » Fri May 8, 2015 2:05 am

I think the 911 caller said 10 people because she probably saw when there were witnesses mixed in. That's the only reason why she would say that.
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Re: The MoBro's Show 

Post#504 » by RunDogGun » Fri May 8, 2015 2:07 am

In Len We Trust wrote:I said long before the police report came out that the fight involved their mom and I was right. Can we stop acting like I'm full of **** please?

Who is saying you're full of it? :roll:
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Re: The MoBro's Show 

Post#505 » by bwgood77 » Fri May 8, 2015 2:07 am

tdjm wrote:Anyone read the piece Coro just put out (http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... 82a92f662b)? Looks like only Hood and his lady friend are claiming to witness it. Hood also said he didn't see/hear Kieff involved.

The impression I'm getting from things so far is that the twins' lawyer would have to be all-world unreal bad to **** things up and get charges to stick on a pair of millionaires, unless someone else comes forward. If he **** up a case of he said she said where he's representing millionaires who can pay to make it all go away he should probably be disbarred


Yeah, if those are the only witnesses, there is an extremely low chance of any sort of conviction. All the lawyer would have to do is make it seem as if someone was targeting people with money hoping they would settle, and that the twins don't fall for that sort of stuff.

Obviously I don't want them to get convicted for the Suns sake, trade value, etc, but the worst thing to happen would be that they come out of it feeling they can do whatever they want and get away with it. The front office will have to lay down the law big time and it would be best just to trade Marcus.

I don't mind keeping Kieff at all, unless we can really get a great asset for him.
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Re: The MoBro's Show 

Post#506 » by RunDogGun » Fri May 8, 2015 2:10 am

In Len We Trust wrote:I think the 911 caller said 10 people because she probably saw when there were witnesses mixed in. That's the only reason why she would say that.

Well we can't speculate as to why she said anything. Do you have multiple witness friends? Where were they witnessing from? And lastly, how did they know the difference between Marcus and Markieff? :wink:
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Post#507 » by In Len We Trust » Fri May 8, 2015 2:51 am

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In Len We Trust wrote:I think the 911 caller said 10 people because she probably saw when there were witnesses mixed in. That's the only reason why she would say that.

Well we can't speculate as to why she said anything. Do you have multiple witness friends? Where were they witnessing from? And lastly, how did they know the difference between Marcus and Markieff? :wink:

Because there weren't 10 people involved in the fight. Yes, 2. They came from inside the gym to out on the field where the fight was. 1 of them heard Mook called Keef out by name (or the other way around I can't remember.)
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Re: The MoBro's Show 

Post#508 » by lilfishi22 » Fri May 8, 2015 6:16 am

In Len We Trust wrote:
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In Len We Trust wrote:I think the 911 caller said 10 people because she probably saw when there were witnesses mixed in. That's the only reason why she would say that.

Well we can't speculate as to why she said anything. Do you have multiple witness friends? Where were they witnessing from? And lastly, how did they know the difference between Marcus and Markieff? :wink:

Because there weren't 10 people involved in the fight. Yes, 2. They came from inside the gym to out on the field where the fight was. 1 of them heard Mook called Keef out by name (or the other way around I can't remember.)

lol one of those "don't use my real name, Mook!" situations :lol:
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Re: The MoBro's Show 

Post#509 » by carey » Fri May 8, 2015 2:20 pm

RunDogGun wrote:So far the only source in every report I've seen or heard has Hood claiming he mentored them in high school. Multiple reports of his testimony doesn't change the single source. As for the so called "long time friendship", (again, only Hood's claims) the relationship was only in their early years in high school. And according to Hood, they haven't had any contact in four years. So a couple of so called years in high school six to seven years ago equals a long time family friend to the twins.

You don't know if they lied to the police. Again you are taking Hood's claims as evidence.

As for InLen's last claim of trying to contact them....wtf? How are we to varify that there was contact, and that message was received, and responded to?

Now I completely admit it was stupid to even be near a fight because of their ease of recognition. It's stupid to hang out with people that will start fights in public places where children are present. But there are tons of stupid players that often stupid things.

Again, we keep hearing the same stuff over and over, and everytime the same reports use Hood's claims, everyone here goes off. You've actually said I should apologize to InLen. For what? I didn't call him names. I never denied that his roommate was there, nor have I denied that the twins were there. I just question the differing witness accounts, one of which says the opposite of what Hood claims. Also, from listening to Hood's girlfriend's 911 tape (only 911 call I've heard), she claims there were ten people involved. It all sounds too fishy.

So could it be a possibility, that Hood wanted to mentor the twins, maybe in hope to represent them in the future, and they know of him, but not really know him? Do you remember everyone you met seven years ago? Now imagine going to college being basketball stars, and then going to the NBA. Good chance they remember his name, but not know him, hence not a lie.


It's very likely they lied to the police at least once when they claimed not to know Hood. With a lie that bold it's not hard to imagine more followed. I don't see how they can be in pictures with the guy and he can have conversations with their mom but they can still claim not to know him.

From an AZ Central article: "The report shows the alleged victim, Erik Hood, told police he had been a mentor to the twins and supported them financially for a time when they were high school students in Philadelphia. Hood, a former professional basketball player who now works as a talent scout, also showed police photographs of himself with the Morris twins, the report said."

Basically what you're saying makes no sense to me. It seems like you're bending over backwards to prove their innocence just as others are doing so to prove they are guilty. If taking a measured view it does appear that they lied at least once.
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Post#510 » by RunDogGun » Fri May 8, 2015 3:08 pm

Carey, are suggesting that the twins know every person that they have been in pictures with? Again, they can know of him, without really knowing him, which makes it not a lie.

It's easily possible that Hood wanted to get in tight with up and coming high school players, maybe even to represent them in the future. I'm sure the twins had many people coming at them, for a future agent would get two clients together.

But again, everyone is going off Hood as a source. I am not bending over backwards, simply pointing out that every report uses Hood's comments as truth. He said that all five guys attacked him, but InLen's roommate claims that Markieff did nothing. So maybe Hood is not telling the truth? And according to you, if he lied about one thing, maybe he is lying about other things, like mentoring them, and supporting them financially.
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Post#511 » by RunDogGun » Fri May 8, 2015 3:19 pm

In Len We Trust wrote:
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In Len We Trust wrote:I think the 911 caller said 10 people because she probably saw when there were witnesses mixed in. That's the only reason why she would say that.

Well we can't speculate as to why she said anything. Do you have multiple witness friends? Where were they witnessing from? And lastly, how did they know the difference between Marcus and Markieff? :wink:

Because there weren't 10 people involved in the fight. Yes, 2. They came from inside the gym to out on the field where the fight was. 1 of them heard Mook called Keef out by name (or the other way around I can't remember.)

So now that the investigation is over, are you allowed to say exactly what your friends witnessed? For example, how did your friends know this had something to do with the twins' mom? And I am still curious to the proximity of the fight in which they witnessed. And how many other people saw it.
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Re: The MoBro's Show 

Post#512 » by carey » Fri May 8, 2015 6:13 pm

RunDogGun wrote:Carey, are suggesting that the twins know every person that they have been in pictures with? Again, they can know of him, without really knowing him, which makes it not a lie.

It's easily possible that Hood wanted to get in tight with up and coming high school players, maybe even to represent them in the future. I'm sure the twins had many people coming at them, for a future agent would get two clients together.

But again, everyone is going off Hood as a source. I am not bending over backwards, simply pointing out that every report uses Hood's comments as truth. He said that all five guys attacked him, but InLen's roommate claims that Markieff did nothing. So maybe Hood is not telling the truth? And according to you, if he lied about one thing, maybe he is lying about other things, like mentoring them, and supporting them financially.


Let me ask you something, mate. If a guy knows your mom well enough to text her AND be in a picture with you, are you going to say you don't know the guy? You'd have to be, well totally oblivious not too know said person, but I guess it is possible. However slim that may be.
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Post#513 » by Saberestar » Fri May 8, 2015 6:35 pm

Marcus and Markieff Morris plead not guilty to aggravated assault.
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http://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-blog ... ed-assault
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Post#514 » by RunDogGun » Fri May 8, 2015 6:51 pm

Saberestar wrote:Marcus and Markieff Morris plead not guilty to aggravated assault.
Video here...

http://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-blog ... ed-assault

Wtf!? How come we don't hear the conversation, so we can hear the twins' mother speaking? All we hear is a recording of Hood talking. Doesn't a conversation require two people?
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Re: The MoBro's Show 

Post#515 » by RunDogGun » Fri May 8, 2015 6:58 pm

carey wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:Carey, are suggesting that the twins know every person that they have been in pictures with? Again, they can know of him, without really knowing him, which makes it not a lie.

It's easily possible that Hood wanted to get in tight with up and coming high school players, maybe even to represent them in the future. I'm sure the twins had many people coming at them, for a future agent would get two clients together.

But again, everyone is going off Hood as a source. I am not bending over backwards, simply pointing out that every report uses Hood's comments as truth. He said that all five guys attacked him, but InLen's roommate claims that Markieff did nothing. So maybe Hood is not telling the truth? And according to you, if he lied about one thing, maybe he is lying about other things, like mentoring them, and supporting them financially.


Let me ask you something, mate. If a guy knows your mom well enough to text her AND be in a picture with you, are you going to say you don't know the guy? You'd have to be, well totally oblivious not too know said person, but I guess it is possible. However slim that may be.

If the dude has been trying to get them as an agent, do you think he wouldn't go through their mom? My parents are still married, but I don't know every person she speaks with, nor do I know everyone she is pictures with.

In many circles people claim that others don't know them. The twins' buddy could know him, and that is how all this got started.

With that said, the twins are stupid for putting themselves in this situation, and their team.
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Re: The MoBro's Show 

Post#516 » by carey » Fri May 8, 2015 9:55 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Marcus and Markieff Morris plead not guilty to aggravated assault.
Video here...

http://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-blog ... ed-assault

Wtf!? How come we don't hear the conversation, so we can hear the twins' mother speaking? All we hear is a recording of Hood talking. Doesn't a conversation require two people?


You've read the articles? They all say she is silent for nearly 6 minutes while he tells the story or w/e and then simply says "That's crazy."

If there are no more witnesses, no video, and no other evidence, there is a very good chance they get off. I'm only interested in justice being done. I do think they did something, though I'm not sure how much. I do think 5 years is a long time to hold a grudge if they barely knew the guy or didn't at all. (The original "I'll always be there for you" text was sent in 2010.) The whole thing is just super weird which leads me to believe something else has to be going on. Something not reported. Some kind of agenda. Something.
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Post#517 » by In Len We Trust » Sat May 9, 2015 2:54 am

RunDogGun wrote:
carey wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:Carey, are suggesting that the twins know every person that they have been in pictures with? Again, they can know of him, without really knowing him, which makes it not a lie.

It's easily possible that Hood wanted to get in tight with up and coming high school players, maybe even to represent them in the future. I'm sure the twins had many people coming at them, for a future agent would get two clients together.

But again, everyone is going off Hood as a source. I am not bending over backwards, simply pointing out that every report uses Hood's comments as truth. He said that all five guys attacked him, but InLen's roommate claims that Markieff did nothing. So maybe Hood is not telling the truth? And according to you, if he lied about one thing, maybe he is lying about other things, like mentoring them, and supporting them financially.


Let me ask you something, mate. If a guy knows your mom well enough to text her AND be in a picture with you, are you going to say you don't know the guy? You'd have to be, well totally oblivious not too know said person, but I guess it is possible. However slim that may be.

If the dude has been trying to get them as an agent, do you think he wouldn't go through their mom? My parents are still married, but I don't know every person she speaks with, nor do I know everyone she is pictures with.

In many circles people claim that others don't know them. The twins' buddy could know him, and that is how all this got started.

With that said, the twins are stupid for putting themselves in this situation, and their team.


Holy **** dude. I have never seen somebody in so much denial in my life.
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Post#518 » by RunDogGun » Sat May 9, 2015 2:12 pm

Wtf am I denying? :roll:

The evidence is sketchy at best. The witness' accounts differ, which you yourself have said. If you know more, state it. If not, then what else do we have to go on?

InLen, you have said that the police have blown this thing. You also said the Markieff was not involved in the assault. You said that the police were trying to make more out of your roommates' statements. So what am I denying?

So far every report revolves around Hood and his statements and claims. He still loves the boys? Right, that is why he is dragging this out as long as he can. I'm sure some kind of settlement could have been reached if he loves the twins. Sounds like Hood is going to milk as much 15 minutes of fame he can get out of this.
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Post#519 » by RunDogGun » Sat May 9, 2015 2:15 pm

carey wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Marcus and Markieff Morris plead not guilty to aggravated assault.
Video here...

http://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-blog ... ed-assault

Wtf!? How come we don't hear the conversation, so we can hear the twins' mother speaking? All we hear is a recording of Hood talking. Doesn't a conversation require two people?


You've read the articles? They all say she is silent for nearly 6 minutes while he tells the story or w/e and then simply says "That's crazy."

If there are no more witnesses, no video, and no other evidence, there is a very good chance they get off. I'm only interested in justice being done. I do think they did something, though I'm not sure how much. I do think 5 years is a long time to hold a grudge if they barely knew the guy or didn't at all. (The original "I'll always be there for you" text was sent in 2010.) The whole thing is just super weird which leads me to believe something else has to be going on. Something not reported. Some kind of agenda. Something.

I've read everything that has been posted, and every link I've seen. So how did he get a recording of the conversation? This gets stranger by the day.
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Post#520 » by bwgood77 » Sat May 9, 2015 4:20 pm

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RunDogGun wrote:Carey, are suggesting that the twins know every person that they have been in pictures with? Again, they can know of him, without really knowing him, which makes it not a lie.

It's easily possible that Hood wanted to get in tight with up and coming high school players, maybe even to represent them in the future. I'm sure the twins had many people coming at them, for a future agent would get two clients together.

But again, everyone is going off Hood as a source. I am not bending over backwards, simply pointing out that every report uses Hood's comments as truth. He said that all five guys attacked him, but InLen's roommate claims that Markieff did nothing. So maybe Hood is not telling the truth? And according to you, if he lied about one thing, maybe he is lying about other things, like mentoring them, and supporting them financially.


Let me ask you something, mate. If a guy knows your mom well enough to text her AND be in a picture with you, are you going to say you don't know the guy? You'd have to be, well totally oblivious not too know said person, but I guess it is possible. However slim that may be.


In all honesty, I've had people connect with me on facebook and share a hs picture with me and her in it and I sit there and think "I have no recollection of this have truly have no idea who this is" but at least I pretend.

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