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Don't see much upside from Bobby actually... Brad Miller, maybe?
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I agree with not seeing much upside, but he is going to be really solid, a solid defender with range and good passing, he is big and knows how to play, while been a real pro and a workhorse, is he going to be an All Star anyday? probably not, but he will be a contributor for a very good team.
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MCtripDub wrote:Don't see much upside from Bobby actually... Brad Miller, maybe?
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Brad Miller was a very good player until his knees turned to mush.
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Boris Diaw is a decent comp for Portis.
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Ruzious wrote:MCtripDub wrote:Don't see much upside from Bobby actually... Brad Miller, maybe?
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Brad Miller was a very good player until his knees turned to mush.
I dont know about 'very good' but he was def decent.
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MCtripDub wrote:Ruzious wrote:MCtripDub wrote:Don't see much upside from Bobby actually... Brad Miller, maybe?
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Brad Miller was a very good player until his knees turned to mush.
I dont know about 'very good' but he was def decent.
10 year starter and 2 time all-star. 50 playoff games. 15-10 guy in his prime with a block a game. if Portis turns into this he will be a very good pick for someone
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He's got a skill set that is very likeable, but he doesn't pop out as someone special. I'd say he could be a safe pick, but not a high-ceiling kind of guy. Though he's a good rebounder in college, I don't think he's going to be dominating the big league considering his lack of speed and explosiveness.
NBA Comparison, initially I thought of him as someone who can be a Channing Frye, but his jump shot is still not reliable, though it has gotten better. Also, release is too slow as if shooting is an effort. I think he could be a lite version of Donatas Motiejunas at best.
NBA Comparison, initially I thought of him as someone who can be a Channing Frye, but his jump shot is still not reliable, though it has gotten better. Also, release is too slow as if shooting is an effort. I think he could be a lite version of Donatas Motiejunas at best.
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I have to say--his stroke looks decent on highlights but y'all are talking like he's a surefire long range bomber. He shot .8 threes per game this year. This aint JJ Redick we're talking about, it's a dude that shot THIRTY 3s the whole year. Considering how unpredictable the transition to NBA stretch 4 is, I aint comfortable projecting a guy as a dealy bomber based on 30 shots (especially after he shot 27% from 3 the year before).
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My player comparison for Bobby Portis is a starting role capable version of Jordan Hill.
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brackdan70 wrote:MCtripDub wrote:Ruzious wrote:Brad Miller was a very good player until his knees turned to mush.
I dont know about 'very good' but he was def decent.
10 year starter and 2 time all-star. 50 playoff games. 15-10 guy in his prime with a block a game. if Portis turns into this he will be a very good pick for someone
I see what you're saying, but please do check out Brad's numbers during his two 'all-star' selections.
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MCtripDub wrote:brackdan70 wrote:MCtripDub wrote:
I dont know about 'very good' but he was def decent.
10 year starter and 2 time all-star. 50 playoff games. 15-10 guy in his prime with a block a game. if Portis turns into this he will be a very good pick for someone
I see what you're saying, but please do check out Brad's numbers during his two 'all-star' selections.
I had forgotten how good a passer he developed into. Thanks.
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Curmudgeon wrote:Boris Diaw is a decent comp for Portis.
Boris Diaw?!? The guy who came into the league as a mutant athlete :
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and who is quite possibly the best passing big in the league? I don't see it.
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MCtripDub wrote:brackdan70 wrote:MCtripDub wrote:
I dont know about 'very good' but he was def decent.
10 year starter and 2 time all-star. 50 playoff games. 15-10 guy in his prime with a block a game. if Portis turns into this he will be a very good pick for someone
I see what you're saying, but please do check out Brad's numbers during his two 'all-star' selections.
yeah, he was no Hall of Famer or perennial all star or anything but a damn good player on good teams
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He's going to be a very good player for a team who needs a PF. I can see Phoenix or Indy looking at him.
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Probably the guy's biggest flaw is that he can't really switch between PF and C. He just doesn't bring much rim protection.
Still, he's going to be able to contribute on offense and should be a competent man-defender in the NBA, so he'll probably have a job as at least a rotation player.
Still, he's going to be able to contribute on offense and should be a competent man-defender in the NBA, so he'll probably have a job as at least a rotation player.
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Portis is a better defender in space (PNR, ISO, spotup situations) than 1x1... much like WCS.
They have too much mobility, they end up impacting on a play anyway.
I'd compare Portis w/ Cody Zeller
WCS w/ Noah
They have too much mobility, they end up impacting on a play anyway.
I'd compare Portis w/ Cody Zeller
WCS w/ Noah
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I'm a little late to the party here, but i've been looking into Portis a lot lately, and i gotta agree with those that are singing his praises. I'm sold. I think he's gonna be one of those guys where when we look back on the draft in a few years and we ask ourselves "Why wasn't he drafted higher? How did he slip under the radar?"
Think about where modern NBA is going: Now it's all about versatile forwards who can space the floor but still defend multiple positions. Post players who can shoot but also guard the ball handler of a pick&roll, aswell as drop back and body up on the roller, are really valuable now. The best team in the league (GSW) have one in Draymond. The #1 seed in the East have one in Millsap. The two teams that met in the finals the past 2 years have one each in Kawhi and Bosh. LeBron is one too. The Brow is about to tear our league a new one. Ibaka has been part of a finals team before. Etc.
That's the role that Bobby Portis will fill...
First of all he's fairly long (7'2" wingspan) and tall (6'10.5"), giving him a standing reach of 9'0.5". He's not a high leaper but he jumps up quickly and has good mobility for a big. Claims that he doesn't have NBA level athleticism are completely wrong, he's quick getting to his spots. He can shoot (74% FT, 41.2% on all jumpshots according to Synergy, + 46.7% from three on 1.1 attempts per40), and he can also score in a bunch of different ways. He has great motor & toughness; he's real aggressive and physical on the court. The most important thing to him is winning, as he often spoke about in interviews. He models his game after Kevin Garnett. He has a good feel for the game and plays within himself. Decent passer. Gobbles up offensive rebounds. Not a rim protector but works hard on D, high energy on that end. All of this and he's still only 20 until October. Millsap and Draymond weren't highly regarded until their senior years.
His stats are actually pretty on par with Jahlil Okafor's, yet they are regarded in totally different tiers. Yes Portis is a year older, but Jahlil has the kind of physical tools that typically dominate college level. Okafor scores in a very one-dimensional way that is slowly becoming a little obsolete (unless you can shoot & pass aswell). Okafor has much higher FG%, and Portis has way lower TO's and a much higher FT%. Everything else is basically the same. I'm not saying they're on the same level as prospects, but i'm suggesting that the gap is closer than currently perceived.
Although Portis is projected somewhere around the mid-1st round, i still think he's a sleeper. To me he's easily a top 10 pick. People are sleeping on him because he's not an "elite athlete". I don't think he'll be an all-star type (maybe he'll make 1 or 2 if the team he plays on is top 3 seed or something). But he has more than enough tools to play a vital role for a winning team (not to mention his skills and intangibles), and i would be ecstatic if he's still available at #18 for Houston to pick up (although i don't expect him to fall that far)
Think about where modern NBA is going: Now it's all about versatile forwards who can space the floor but still defend multiple positions. Post players who can shoot but also guard the ball handler of a pick&roll, aswell as drop back and body up on the roller, are really valuable now. The best team in the league (GSW) have one in Draymond. The #1 seed in the East have one in Millsap. The two teams that met in the finals the past 2 years have one each in Kawhi and Bosh. LeBron is one too. The Brow is about to tear our league a new one. Ibaka has been part of a finals team before. Etc.
That's the role that Bobby Portis will fill...
First of all he's fairly long (7'2" wingspan) and tall (6'10.5"), giving him a standing reach of 9'0.5". He's not a high leaper but he jumps up quickly and has good mobility for a big. Claims that he doesn't have NBA level athleticism are completely wrong, he's quick getting to his spots. He can shoot (74% FT, 41.2% on all jumpshots according to Synergy, + 46.7% from three on 1.1 attempts per40), and he can also score in a bunch of different ways. He has great motor & toughness; he's real aggressive and physical on the court. The most important thing to him is winning, as he often spoke about in interviews. He models his game after Kevin Garnett. He has a good feel for the game and plays within himself. Decent passer. Gobbles up offensive rebounds. Not a rim protector but works hard on D, high energy on that end. All of this and he's still only 20 until October. Millsap and Draymond weren't highly regarded until their senior years.
His stats are actually pretty on par with Jahlil Okafor's, yet they are regarded in totally different tiers. Yes Portis is a year older, but Jahlil has the kind of physical tools that typically dominate college level. Okafor scores in a very one-dimensional way that is slowly becoming a little obsolete (unless you can shoot & pass aswell). Okafor has much higher FG%, and Portis has way lower TO's and a much higher FT%. Everything else is basically the same. I'm not saying they're on the same level as prospects, but i'm suggesting that the gap is closer than currently perceived.
Although Portis is projected somewhere around the mid-1st round, i still think he's a sleeper. To me he's easily a top 10 pick. People are sleeping on him because he's not an "elite athlete". I don't think he'll be an all-star type (maybe he'll make 1 or 2 if the team he plays on is top 3 seed or something). But he has more than enough tools to play a vital role for a winning team (not to mention his skills and intangibles), and i would be ecstatic if he's still available at #18 for Houston to pick up (although i don't expect him to fall that far)
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I think Portis is going to be pretty effective, like a harder working, 2-way version of Andray Blatche. He needs to get stronger, but he covers most aspects of the game pretty well. Jazz could be interested at 12 if Johnson and Turner are off the board.
Guys with that much size, mobility and motor can put up numbers pretty readily.
Guys with that much size, mobility and motor can put up numbers pretty readily.
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Like Portis a lot. I think he's going to be a stud in the NBA, if he lands on a team that knows how to develop players.
I would be happy if Detroit traded back in the draft and took him.
I would be happy if Detroit traded back in the draft and took him.