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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1061 » by Tahleron » Wed May 13, 2015 1:05 pm

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Jdiddy701 wrote:I don't know - I kinda agree what Shaq is saying. It doesn't always work. I think it helped the Clippers vs the Spurs when they were doing it.

I hope they don't change the rule.. Players just need to learn to make freethrows. Period.


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Don't like this argument. The rule as it stands, and the way it is exploited would be similar to the nfl having a rule where if a team committed a penalty the other team was rewarded a field goal try, taking away their chance at a td. So if they were inside the 1 yard line with first down, the defensive team would take the strategy of committing the penalty, forcing them to kick a field goal.

The whole mentality of "They don't have a higher probability of getting more points if we don't commit a foul/penalty, so lets break a rule to benefit us" is ludicrous.


The hack is a pretty clear case of an unintended consequence too, it's not like they considered it when they implemented the bonus. But the issue from a spectator pov (seriously just watch this clippers rockets series, any semblance of good basketball ends up with us watching some 7 foot oaf shoot free throws) is that we want to see less free throws, much like any business, you eliminate the unnecessary first, and the hack is first and foremost the unnecessary.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1062 » by RunDogGun » Wed May 13, 2015 2:29 pm

It would be ironic if Houston loses the series because they implemented the strategy. I don't care for it, but I understand how it would be a necessary evil. Overall, basketball players should be able to shoot the basketball. It takes a lot of practice.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1063 » by jeff2020 » Thu May 14, 2015 2:59 pm

No need to change a rule that only applies to about 5 players in the league. If you can't hit free throws and have to sit out the 4th quarter then tough. Maybe that will give them the motivation to get in the gym and work on their free throws so they aren't letting their team down
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1064 » by bwgood77 » Thu May 14, 2015 4:34 pm

jeff2020 wrote:No need to change a rule that only applies to about 5 players in the league. If you can't hit free throws and have to sit out the 4th quarter then tough. Maybe that will give them the motivation to get in the gym and work on their free throws so they aren't letting their team down


I feel that if a team commits a foul/penalty, that the result should not be beneficial to them, ever. It's counterintuitive.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1065 » by RunDogGun » Thu May 14, 2015 4:44 pm

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jeff2020 wrote:No need to change a rule that only applies to about 5 players in the league. If you can't hit free throws and have to sit out the 4th quarter then tough. Maybe that will give them the motivation to get in the gym and work on their free throws so they aren't letting their team down


I feel that if a team commits a foul/penalty, that the result should not be beneficial to them, ever. It's counterintuitive.

That is why each player has a foul limit. It's similar to fouling a guy instead of letting them make an easy basket. That situation often works in the favor of the person committing the foul. Maybe intentional fouling could be a three foul shot, after the third time it is used in a quarter? Or an automatic point, plus one foul shot.

Either way, free throws should be an easy shot.

Can the big who is being fouled, inbound the ball, and just wait out of bounds? Then you could make an intentional foul out of bounds be a two shot and the ball.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1066 » by RunDogGun » Thu May 14, 2015 4:48 pm

Did anyone else think the Grizz/GS game was a foul fest? I had to turn it off. It wasn't even basketball.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1067 » by jeff2020 » Thu May 14, 2015 4:49 pm

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jeff2020 wrote:No need to change a rule that only applies to about 5 players in the league. If you can't hit free throws and have to sit out the 4th quarter then tough. Maybe that will give them the motivation to get in the gym and work on their free throws so they aren't letting their team down


I feel that if a team commits a foul/penalty, that the result should not be beneficial to them, ever. It's counterintuitive.


I just don't think rewarding the handful of dreadful free throw shooters is the way to go. Just make 60% of your foul shots and this isn't even a discussion. And there is no reason why a player can't hit 60%
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1068 » by RaisingArizona » Thu May 14, 2015 7:24 pm

I wish they just made free throws a 1 shot 2 point opportunity. It cuts the attempts in half, speeds up the game. Adds excitement with the potential 5 point play lol.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1069 » by Damkac » Thu May 14, 2015 11:00 pm

100% agree with 2 posts above
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1070 » by bwgood77 » Thu May 14, 2015 11:05 pm

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jeff2020 wrote:No need to change a rule that only applies to about 5 players in the league. If you can't hit free throws and have to sit out the 4th quarter then tough. Maybe that will give them the motivation to get in the gym and work on their free throws so they aren't letting their team down


I feel that if a team commits a foul/penalty, that the result should not be beneficial to them, ever. It's counterintuitive.

That is why each player has a foul limit. It's similar to fouling a guy instead of letting them make an easy basket. That situation often works in the favor of the person committing the foul. Maybe intentional fouling could be a three foul shot, after the third time it is used in a quarter? Or an automatic point, plus one foul shot.

Either way, free throws should be an easy shot.

Can the big who is being fouled, inbound the ball, and just wait out of bounds? Then you could make an intentional foul out of bounds be a two shot and the ball.


I simply just think you should be able to decline a foul and take ball out of bounds if you don't want to accept the penalty.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1071 » by bwgood77 » Thu May 14, 2015 11:07 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:
jeff2020 wrote:No need to change a rule that only applies to about 5 players in the league. If you can't hit free throws and have to sit out the 4th quarter then tough. Maybe that will give them the motivation to get in the gym and work on their free throws so they aren't letting their team down


I feel that if a team commits a foul/penalty, that the result should not be beneficial to them, ever. It's counterintuitive.


I just don't think rewarding the handful of dreadful free throw shooters is the way to go. Just make 60% of your foul shots and this isn't even a discussion. And there is no reason why a player can't hit 60%


It's not rewarding them. If they get intentionally fouled when they are about to dunk, fine. But if teams are fouling them when they are not related to the play, they should be able to say "no thanks, we decline the foul and will take ball out of bounds."
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1072 » by RunDogGun » Thu May 14, 2015 11:13 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:
I feel that if a team commits a foul/penalty, that the result should not be beneficial to them, ever. It's counterintuitive.

That is why each player has a foul limit. It's similar to fouling a guy instead of letting them make an easy basket. That situation often works in the favor of the person committing the foul. Maybe intentional fouling could be a three foul shot, after the third time it is used in a quarter? Or an automatic point, plus one foul shot.

Either way, free throws should be an easy shot.

Can the big who is being fouled, inbound the ball, and just wait out of bounds? Then you could make an intentional foul out of bounds be a two shot and the ball.


I simply just think you should be able to decline a foul and take ball out of bounds if you don't want to accept the penalty.

But then you can't foul to stop the clock, and force the other team to shoot free throws, and get the ball back, right?

I'd still stick to only fouling the guy with the ball is a basketball foul for two shots. Any off ball fouls can be declined.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1073 » by RunDogGun » Thu May 14, 2015 11:22 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:
I feel that if a team commits a foul/penalty, that the result should not be beneficial to them, ever. It's counterintuitive.


I just don't think rewarding the handful of dreadful free throw shooters is the way to go. Just make 60% of your foul shots and this isn't even a discussion. And there is no reason why a player can't hit 60%


It's not rewarding them. If they get intentionally fouled when they are about to dunk, fine. But if teams are fouling them when they are not related to the play, they should be able to say "no thanks, we decline the foul and will take ball out of bounds."

I guess I see what you are saying, that this rule would only apply before the two minute mark.

I think it should be a one shot and the ball out of bounds. That way there isn't a benefit for the team fouling. But it would have to be a warning first, then that rule.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1074 » by Tahleron » Fri May 15, 2015 12:41 am

They should just implement the international rule and make it a flagrant 1, no one would ever do it again
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1075 » by Tahleron » Fri May 15, 2015 12:42 am

They should just implement the international rule and make it a flagrant 1, no one would ever do it again
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1076 » by thamadkant » Fri May 15, 2015 2:15 am

As I mentioned on the General Board...
Intentional foul without the ball in the last 3 minutes = 3 foul shots instead of 2.

Atleast if the bad free throw shooter get "lucky", he scores 2/3 for his team... at best scenario 3 points.
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Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1077 » by Jdiddy701 » Fri May 15, 2015 3:48 am

Hack a Shaq just ruined Houston in the 2nd quarter. They started doing it and their lead vanished. Good


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Post#1078 » by Qwigglez » Fri May 15, 2015 5:29 am

Wow. I can't believe the Clippers choked like that. Rockets were ready to go fishing. Harden with no heart though.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1079 » by lilfishi22 » Fri May 15, 2015 5:51 am

1UPZ wrote:As I mentioned on the General Board...
Intentional foul without the ball in the last 3 minutes = 3 foul shots instead of 2.

Atleast if the bad free throw shooter get "lucky", he scores 2/3 for his team... at best scenario 3 points.

Just slows down the game even more.

I'm all for 1 FTA = 2 points
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#1080 » by RunDogGun » Fri May 15, 2015 1:33 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Wow. I can't believe the Clippers choked like that. Rockets were ready to go fishing. Harden with no heart though.

I couldn't believe it either. Up by seventeen,and they basically have three head coaches on that team. Now they have to go into Houston and win. :lol:

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