Hoiberg Thread: RUMOR PG. 7, 11 Deal in Place?

Chi · Post #1 » by **Chi** » Sat May 16, 2015 1:45 pm

Not sure if this deserved it's on thread, but I see a lot of people asking what he would bring to our team and why him instead of Tibs etc.

Here's a 1st hand look at his coaching style, and analysis from players and people who see it first hand on the daily...

He seems very encouraging and inspirational if nothing else.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28FEXixvDII&hd=1[/youtube]

(1:50 Mark)
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IoTWVoMN6c[/youtube]

(Offensive Sets)
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os23Un0qrW4&hd=1[/youtube]

(Offensive Sets Pt.2)
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azFM345lLHQ&hd=1[/youtube]

For anyone Interested in kind of seeing what all the Hoiberg fuss is about...

Droseisthe1 · Post #2 » by **Droseisthe1** » Sat May 16, 2015 2:35 pm

Seems like a Noah type of guy lol

pylb · Post #3 » by **pylb** » Sat May 16, 2015 2:45 pm

You can also find full games from Iowa State on youtube. Just search for "iowa state basketball" and set the filters to long duration.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLiBE3yziEY[/youtube]

DRoseCantStop · Post #4 » by **DRoseCantStop** » Sat May 16, 2015 3:35 pm

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ms4PwQ-C0[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id_H6Tykd_Q[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-P701KDv4Q[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PevMvVOjka8[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E12AGCYxWI[/youtube]

RebuildaBulls · Post #5 » by **RebuildaBulls** » Sat May 16, 2015 3:49 pm

Nice plays. I liked the Mayor when he was in the Bulls. He was a fun guy to watch on a dreadful team

RebuildaBulls · Post #6 » by **RebuildaBulls** » Sat May 16, 2015 4:02 pm

I'd put money its going to be Hoiberg, look at the list of head coaches the Bulls had since 1986 under Reinsdorf
Doug Collins- first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Phil Jackson -first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Tim Floyd -first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Bill Cartwright-first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Scott Skiles -first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Vinny Del Negro -first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Thibs - first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls

Bulls hired coaches who were first time head coaches. I know they wanted D'Antoni but lost him to the Knicks but will they break the trend with Gentry or continue the trend with Hoiberg. I bet it goes Hoiberg since Gar/Paxson knows him and can likely control him a bit.

Bears do this too but broke the trend this year with John Fox

RememberLu · Post #7 » by **RememberLu** » Sat May 16, 2015 4:03 pm

lol @ that flare slip. We don't have the personnel to finish lobs like that, thats sad

all those lobs are gonna be nothing but a bunch of turnovers

RebuildaBulls · Post #8 » by **RebuildaBulls** » Sat May 16, 2015 4:05 pm

RememberLu wrote:lol @ that flare slip. We don't have the personnel to finish lobs like that, thats sad

all those lobs are gonna be nothing but a bunch of turnovers

Yeah Noah and Gasol cant jump. I hope they draft a defensive center who can slam some lobs, thats our biggest need imo

orgulas · Post #9 » by **orgulas** » Sat May 16, 2015 4:08 pm

RememberLu wrote:lol @ that flare slip. We don't have the personnel to finish lobs like that, thats sad

all those lobs are gonna be nothing but a bunch of turnovers

'Niko to Taj' come up to my mind while watching that one.

RememberLu · Post #10 » by **RememberLu** » Sat May 16, 2015 4:08 pm

Derrick is bad at tossing lobs too...

pickIBL · Post #11 » by **pickIBL** » Sat May 16, 2015 4:08 pm

Fred Hoiberg's staff does an excellent job recruiting and Fred comes in and hammers it home with his I know NBA GMs pitch. And he's screwed over Kevin before on the Royce White situation.

Fred can draw up a nice play offensively. He's definitely not a defensive minded coach. He's also a poor in game manager (because he was hired to coach a D1 team with no coaching experience). He's lost a lot of close games that Tim Floyd would not have lost.

He'd be a horrible fit for the Bulls, because his strengths don't match the club. You don't need him to recruit. He sucks at managing end of games. His team has always had let downs and doesn't always play hard like you'd get from a Tom Izzo.

Fred Hoiberg already has his perfect job. If he leaves, for the first time, life is going to kick his butt.

the ultimates · Post #12 » by **the ultimates** » Sat May 16, 2015 4:12 pm

RebuildaBulls wrote:I'd put money its going to be Hoiberg, look at the list of head coaches the Bulls had since 1986 under Reinsdorf
Doug Collins- first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Phil Jackson -first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Tim Floyd -first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Bill Cartwright-first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Scott Skiles -first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Vinny Del Negro -first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Thibs - first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls

Bulls hired coaches who were first time head coaches. I know they wanted D'Antoni but lost him to the Knicks but will they break the trend with Gentry or continue the trend with Hoiberg. I bet it goes Hoiberg since Gar/Paxson knows him and can likely control him a bit.

Bears do this too but broke the trend this year with John Fox

Skiles had previous head coaching experience. Look at the list of other teams going back six or seven coaches. I bet you would find them giving either an elite NBA assistant or college head coach their first head coaching job in the league. Nobody says anything about that because its normal. The Bulls do it though and its somehow controversial?

Droseisthe1 · Post #13 » by **Droseisthe1** » Sat May 16, 2015 4:22 pm

DRoseCantStop wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ms4PwQ-C0[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id_H6Tykd_Q[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-P701KDv4Q[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PevMvVOjka8[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E12AGCYxWI[/youtube]

That "wing weave" action already looks a lot like the East-West ball movement we already do that didn't work at all. At the end of it, they still needed someone to break a guy down 1on1 or take him into the post. Already the same ishh we've been doing.

BullsFTW · Post #14 » by **BullsFTW** » Sat May 16, 2015 4:22 pm

RememberLu wrote:lol @ that flare slip. We don't have the personnel to finish lobs like that, thats sad

all those lobs are gonna be nothing but a bunch of turnovers

If we can move up the draft and get WCS

Post #15 » by **DuckIII** » Sat May 16, 2015 4:28 pm

RebuildaBulls wrote:I'd put money its going to be Hoiberg, look at the list of head coaches the Bulls had since 1986 under Reinsdorf
Doug Collins- first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Phil Jackson -first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Tim Floyd -first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Bill Cartwright-first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Scott Skiles -first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Vinny Del Negro -first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Thibs - first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls

Bulls hired coaches who were first time head coaches.

Not that it invalidates your general point, but Scott Skiles was the head coach of the Suns before he coached the Bulls.

CB4L · Post #16 » by **CB4L** » Sat May 16, 2015 4:41 pm

the ultimates wrote:
RebuildaBulls wrote:I'd put money its going to be Hoiberg, look at the list of head coaches the Bulls had since 1986 under Reinsdorf
Doug Collins- first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Phil Jackson -first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Tim Floyd -first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Bill Cartwright-first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Scott Skiles -first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Vinny Del Negro -first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls
Thibs - first NBA coaching stint with the Bulls

Bulls hired coaches who were first time head coaches. I know they wanted D'Antoni but lost him to the Knicks but will they break the trend with Gentry or continue the trend with Hoiberg. I bet it goes Hoiberg since Gar/Paxson knows him and can likely control him a bit.

Bears do this too but broke the trend this year with John Fox

Skiles had previous head coaching experience. Look at the list of other teams going back six or seven coaches. I bet you would find them giving either an elite NBA assistant or college head coach their first head coaching job in the league. Nobody says anything about that because its normal. The Bulls do it though and its somehow controversial?

Bulls fans don't know what they want and spew a lot of stuff.

Also Skiles had previous coaching experience in NBA so list is kind of wrong. Also let's not forget how bad Tim was as a HC despite college success.

Shill · Post #17 » by **Shill** » Sat May 16, 2015 5:13 pm

Can we make this the official Hoiberg thread?

I've heard about his heart condition. What's the story there?

bennjuiced34 · Post #18 » by **bennjuiced34** » Sat May 16, 2015 5:19 pm

Droseisthe1 wrote:
DRoseCantStop wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ms4PwQ-C0[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id_H6Tykd_Q[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-P701KDv4Q[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PevMvVOjka8[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E12AGCYxWI[/youtube]

That "wing weave" action already looks a lot like the East-West ball movement we already do that didn't work at all. At the end of it, they still needed someone to break a guy down 1on1 or take him into the post. Already the same ishh we've been doing.

Our East-West ball movement didn't work because it was stagnant. There was no off ball movement or misdirection.

Our offense had no flow. It was predictable and it wasn't intricate.

Indomitable · Post #19 » by **Indomitable** » Sat May 16, 2015 5:25 pm

RememberLu wrote:Derrick is bad at tossing lobs too...

He threw a lot of nice ones to Tyrus and a couple this year to jimmy. I think it is our bigs cannot jump.

League Circles · Post #20 » by **League Circles** » Sat May 16, 2015 5:33 pm

Droseisthe1 wrote:

Seems like a Noah type of guy lol

I'm not digging this, doubt Rose will either.