FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

[AlphakirA]

He's a borderline all star and people wouldn't trade a pick that they HOPE turns into a borderline all star? Of course I would consider it. He's not a perfect player, but he's what we hope these other guys turn into. Dame isn't going to turn into a bad player in the NBA, a college kid may.

[Esq-4]

This is just the type of trade we should look at, if we are gonna move the pick for a player. Why? YOUNG. I want to see us keep the pick and see him become a franchise cornerstone, but if we made a trade it has to be along these lines. Same goes for Cousins. Again, no advocating a trade but so munch better than an Aldridge (AGE).

Not only young, but established already.

[KingzAndQueenz]

nah no dame i want okafor

[aq_ua]

So, I guess Kevin Seraphin is there for the taking.

[Crunch time 1]

I keep thinking 3rd pick for some reason. I really think we pick 3rd

[Bravenewworld]

How is Melo injury prone? Don't get caught up in the hype, he wasn't as injured this season as people think. He just took one for the team & helped tank.
Older sure, but don't act like Melo can't still dominate. You're tripping if you're writing off Melo right now. That's some sucka ****. Plus Melo isn't the only piece the Rockets would be getting in the proposed trade. Don't act like Beal is a throw in. No trollin here homie.

Why would the Rockets trade away a guy who has them in the second round game 7, potentially going to the WCFs, for a guy who cant make the playoffs as the leader of a team in the East, where 34 wins regularly gets into the playoffs? Why oh why would they do that? I mean, Beals nice, quite honestly i'd take him over Melo, but hes a role player. He's not going to lead the Rockets 1 game away from a WCFs series.

If you'd take Beal over Melo but call Beal a role player...what does that make Melo?

An overpaid, falsely credited superstar?
A going on 31 year old who's ceiling and abilities have already been met and do not fall into the category people like to put him in?
An all offense, no defense kinda guy?
Limited when building a team around?
A complete lack of leadership but paid like he is one of the best in the game kinda guy?
A SF that is often played as a PF, but naturally creates a massive defensive hole that any good team will exploit?

When i said starting role player i meant 3rd option, consistent and capable. But yes, i put Melo in that "role player" category even though he would most likely be a teams number 1 option. His defense is just so poor, he seems to be emotionally driven which leads to consistency issues, he has no leadership at all, and personally speaking i would not put him in a top 8 or maybe even 10 for SFs in the game right now. The days of 1 dimensional players being superstars is over. Most of us have figured out that you're far better off having B defense and 19/21ppg then C- defense and 27ppg.

[Greenie]

Why would the Rockets trade away a guy who has them in the second round game 7, potentially going to the WCFs, for a guy who cant make the playoffs as the leader of a team in the East, where 34 wins regularly gets into the playoffs? Why oh why would they do that? I mean, Beals nice, quite honestly i'd take him over Melo, but hes a role player. He's not going to lead the Rockets 1 game away from a WCFs series.

If you'd take Beal over Melo but call Beal a role player...what does that make Melo?

An overpaid, falsely credited superstar?
A going on 31 year old who's ceiling and abilities have already been met and do not fall into the category people like to put him in?
An all offense, no defense kinda guy?
Limited when building a team around?
A complete lack of leadership but paid like he is one of the best in the game kinda guy?
A SF that is often played as a PF, but naturally creates a massive defensive hole that any good team will exploit?

When i said starting role player i meant 3rd option, consistent and capable. But yes, i put Melo in that "role player" category even though he would most likely be a teams number 1 option. His defense is just so poor, he seems to be emotionally driven which leads to consistency issues, he has no leadership at all, and personally speaking i would not put him in a top 8 or maybe even 10 for SFs in the game right now. The days of 1 dimensional players being superstars is over. Most of us have figured out that you're far better off having B defense and 19/21ppg then C- defense and 27ppg.

Why are you in here sh*tting on our player? How about you go worry about if Durant's foot will ever be the same and if he will stay in that cheap ass city.

[GONYK]

Why would the Rockets trade away a guy who has them in the second round game 7, potentially going to the WCFs, for a guy who cant make the playoffs as the leader of a team in the East, where 34 wins regularly gets into the playoffs? Why oh why would they do that? I mean, Beals nice, quite honestly i'd take him over Melo, but hes a role player. He's not going to lead the Rockets 1 game away from a WCFs series.

If you'd take Beal over Melo but call Beal a role player...what does that make Melo?

An overpaid, falsely credited superstar?
A going on 31 year old who's ceiling and abilities have already been met and do not fall into the category people like to put him in?
An all offense, no defense kinda guy?
Limited when building a team around?
A complete lack of leadership but paid like he is one of the best in the game kinda guy?
A SF that is often played as a PF, but naturally creates a massive defensive hole that any good team will exploit?

When i said starting role player i meant 3rd option, consistent and capable. But yes, i put Melo in that "role player" category even though he would most likely be a teams number 1 option. His defense is just so poor, he seems to be emotionally driven which leads to consistency issues, he has no leadership at all, and personally speaking i would not put him in a top 8 or maybe even 10 for SFs in the game right now. The days of 1 dimensional players being superstars is over. Most of us have figured out that you're far better off having B defense and 19/21ppg then C- defense and 27ppg.

Name 10 better SF's

[mugzi]

An overpaid, falsely credited superstar?
A going on 31 year old who's ceiling and abilities have already been met and do not fall into the category people like to put him in?
An all offense, no defense kinda guy?
Limited when building a team around?
A complete lack of leadership but paid like he is one of the best in the game kinda guy?
A SF that is often played as a PF, but naturally creates a massive defensive hole that any good team will exploit?

When i said starting role player i meant 3rd option, consistent and capable. But yes, i put Melo in that "role player" category even though he would most likely be a teams number 1 option. His defense is just so poor, he seems to be emotionally driven which leads to consistency issues, he has no leadership at all, and personally speaking i would not put him in a top 8 or maybe even 10 for SFs in the game right now. The days of 1 dimensional players being superstars is over. Most of us have figured out that you're far better off having B defense and 19/21ppg then C- defense and 27ppg.

Why are you in here sh*tting on our player? How about you go worry about if Durant's foot will ever be the same and if he will stay in that cheap ass city.

[mugzi]

An overpaid, falsely credited superstar?
A going on 31 year old who's ceiling and abilities have already been met and do not fall into the category people like to put him in?
An all offense, no defense kinda guy?
Limited when building a team around?
A complete lack of leadership but paid like he is one of the best in the game kinda guy?
A SF that is often played as a PF, but naturally creates a massive defensive hole that any good team will exploit?

When i said starting role player i meant 3rd option, consistent and capable. But yes, i put Melo in that "role player" category even though he would most likely be a teams number 1 option. His defense is just so poor, he seems to be emotionally driven which leads to consistency issues, he has no leadership at all, and personally speaking i would not put him in a top 8 or maybe even 10 for SFs in the game right now. The days of 1 dimensional players being superstars is over. Most of us have figured out that you're far better off having B defense and 19/21ppg then C- defense and 27ppg.

[mpharris36]

An overpaid, falsely credited superstar?
A going on 31 year old who's ceiling and abilities have already been met and do not fall into the category people like to put him in?
An all offense, no defense kinda guy?
Limited when building a team around?
A complete lack of leadership but paid like he is one of the best in the game kinda guy?
A SF that is often played as a PF, but naturally creates a massive defensive hole that any good team will exploit?

When i said starting role player i meant 3rd option, consistent and capable. But yes, i put Melo in that "role player" category even though he would most likely be a teams number 1 option. His defense is just so poor, he seems to be emotionally driven which leads to consistency issues, he has no leadership at all, and personally speaking i would not put him in a top 8 or maybe even 10 for SFs in the game right now. The days of 1 dimensional players being superstars is over. Most of us have figured out that you're far better off having B defense and 19/21ppg then C- defense and 27ppg.

[bigfnjoe96]

Make this man an offer he can't refuse Phil.....

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... igger-Role

[ORANGEandBLUE]

Name 10 better SF's

Why should he even have to? He clearly was referring to the 8-10 guys around the league who average over 19 ppg and play above average defense.

[sogood]

Why would the Rockets trade away a guy who has them in the second round game 7, potentially going to the WCFs, for a guy who cant make the playoffs as the leader of a team in the East, where 34 wins regularly gets into the playoffs? Why oh why would they do that? I mean, Beals nice, quite honestly i'd take him over Melo, but hes a role player. He's not going to lead the Rockets 1 game away from a WCFs series.

If you'd take Beal over Melo but call Beal a role player...what does that make Melo?

An overpaid, falsely credited superstar?
A going on 31 year old who's ceiling and abilities have already been met and do not fall into the category people like to put him in?
An all offense, no defense kinda guy?
Limited when building a team around?
A complete lack of leadership but paid like he is one of the best in the game kinda guy?
A SF that is often played as a PF, but naturally creates a massive defensive hole that any good team will exploit?

When i said starting role player i meant 3rd option, consistent and capable. But yes, i put Melo in that "role player" category even though he would most likely be a teams number 1 option. His defense is just so poor, he seems to be emotionally driven which leads to consistency issues, he has no leadership at all, and personally speaking i would not put him in a top 8 or maybe even 10 for SFs in the game right now. The days of 1 dimensional players being superstars is over. Most of us have figured out that you're far better off having B defense and 19/21ppg then C- defense and 27ppg.

[Bravenewworld]

Name 10 better SF's

I mean.... players id rather have at the 3 and build around?

LBJ, KD, Wiggins, Leonard, PG, Harris, Deng.... maybe the two Green's depending on system..... Parsons as well.... I think AI2 could go back to being a solid scorer in a line up that has him as a top 3 option, and if he could i would definitely take him above Melo as well. Pretty much any 2 way player or more versatile player id take over Melo, which is most every semistar to star SF. Im sure theres a few others i forgot on that list.

The pure point thing that Melo does, does not impress me. Im far more impressed with guys like Deng who have tons of playoff experience, are capable of scoring, rebounding, passing, solid defenders, etc. and who ive seen help will their flawed or incredibly injured team into the second round.... which is just so much more then i can say ive seen from Melo. If im trying to win, im going to pick those guys over Melo. Leadership means something, defense means something, all these attributes that Melo seems to be missing make for a better team player then what he is. In terms of offensive skill, sure, Melo can outscore anyone and can be an offensive force.... but the game is deeper then 1v1 scoring games where that is the only thing we are concerned with.
People tend to forget this guy is going on what? 12 years in the league next season? And his highest accomplishment is "hes a good scorer" and some all star appearances? Come on... we can do better than that.

EDIT: Id like to add that i am used to the above reaction by Knicks fans when i criticize their team as anything below blind fandom is amusing to them. But, as often as i get these responses i have yet to be wrong about Melo or the Knicks.

[kej718]

What about Larry Sanders?
Long shot but since we may miss out on a big, maybe Phil needs to think outside the box. (Short term deal)
Bynum also short term deal
I know it seems crazy and is probably a long shot (not even sure if it will be a good fit)
Kevin Seraphin from the Wizards is also available.

Greg Monroe seems like a good fit and maybe the only guy we get this off-season .

[Bravenewworld]

What about Larry Sanders?
Long shot but since we may miss out on a big, maybe Phil needs to think outside the box. (Short term deal)

Larry Sanders no longer plays basketball..... It has not even been a year since he left for mental health reasons.

[R-DAWG]

With the way the lotto fell I think it makes the Greg Monore to New York talks stronger. And I'm ok with that. I hope that we will sign him for less than max. Knowing our organization he will get the full max. But if your going to stretch do it on a 25 year old 7-fotoer who could be s 20-10 player in the system. Even a full max deal will leave use with $11-12 million of cap room to play with.

A big 3 of Monore, Camrleo and D'Angelo Russel isn't horrible.

[WeTheNorth77]

It seems like the 4th pick is available as per woj and that's why I'm interested in knowing what you guys would be interested in for the 4th pick?

Would a package around lowry+ross be okay? Or would you also require demar in that trade?

[Greenie]

It seems like the 4th pick is available as per woj and that's why I'm interested in knowing what you guys would be interested in for the 4th pick?

Would a package around lowry+ross be okay? Or would you also require demar in that trade?

Keep your fat PG.

We want Val, your picks this year and our pick back for next year.