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Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick?

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Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick?

Okafor
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Towns
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#41 » by C.lupus » Wed May 20, 2015 2:41 am

Ace_Rockola wrote:C lupus Im about to be banned for the 2nd time for posting on the knicks board (even tho im not saying anything 1/10th as bad as any of the knicks fans say about their own team) Mainly refuting their claims of "Towns will just force his way off the wolves anyways" Since me saying otherwise or refuting their previous claims about... Rubio as me "trolling" them. Please ban anyone else who posts on this forums due to them trolling us. Kthx

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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#42 » by Worm Guts » Wed May 20, 2015 2:41 am

It's a tough call for me because I know that interior defense is so important, but I think Okafor is going to score a ton.
I'm gonna wait to give a final opinion.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#43 » by wildvikeswolves » Wed May 20, 2015 2:44 am

Worm Guts wrote:It's a tough call for me because I know that interior defense is so important, but I think Okafor is going to score a ton.
I'm gonna wait to give a final opinion.


I'm with you Worm
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#44 » by Murphs56 » Wed May 20, 2015 2:44 am

Worm Guts wrote:It's a tough call for me because I know that interior defense is so important, but I think Okafor is going to score a ton.
I'm gonna wait to give a final opinion.


Yeah, with his skill set in the post, I see him being an 18-20 point a night guy sooner rather than later.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#45 » by FargoWolf » Wed May 20, 2015 2:45 am

My main concern with Okafor is that you need a Serge Ibaka or Draymond Green type of four to make up for his defensive issues. Good luck finding that guy or getting him to come here.

Towns could fit next to a ton of players at 4, heck he could even play the 4 next to Pek for a while if he could make a miraculous recovery from his injury issues.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#46 » by Luciferswings » Wed May 20, 2015 2:46 am

I'll ask again. Who is the prototype for J.Okafor to be a star?
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#47 » by Murphs56 » Wed May 20, 2015 2:48 am

FargoWolf wrote:My main concern with Okafor is that you need a Serge Ibaka or Draymond Green type of four to make up for his defensive issues. Good luck finding that guy or getting him to come here.

Towns could fit next to a ton of players at 4, heck he could even play the 4 next to Pek for a while if he could make a miraculous recovery from his injury issues.


Yeah but with Okafor, KG will be working with him every day on his defense. His game will improve obviously. That low post scoring though. Not many come into the league with what he's got.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#48 » by Worm Guts » Wed May 20, 2015 2:48 am

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Luciferswings wrote:I'll ask again. Who is the prototype for J.Okafor to be a star?


Tim Duncan offensively. And Tim Duncan without the defense is still a star.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#49 » by GopherIt! » Wed May 20, 2015 2:50 am

C.lupus wrote:
Ace_Rockola wrote:C lupus Im about to be banned for the 2nd time for posting on the knicks board (even tho im not saying anything 1/10th as bad as any of the knicks fans say about their own team) Mainly refuting their claims of "Towns will just force his way off the wolves anyways" Since me saying otherwise or refuting their previous claims about... Rubio as me "trolling" them. Please ban anyone else who posts on this forums due to them trolling us. Kthx

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You should know better than to post over there.


They dropped two slots in the lottery. Even worse it was to Philly and LAL. that board needs some time to vent.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#50 » by Mattya » Wed May 20, 2015 2:52 am

We are going to have Jahlil Okafor or Karl Towns. Crazy potential.

Still can't believe it.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#51 » by LordBaldric » Wed May 20, 2015 2:53 am

I don't want a soft big, especially one who can't hit his damn free throws. I wouldn't pick Okafor with the 4th pick, much less the first!
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#52 » by Luciferswings » Wed May 20, 2015 2:55 am

Worm Guts wrote::
Luciferswings wrote:I'll ask again. Who is the prototype for J.Okafor to be a star?


Tim Duncan offensively. And Tim Duncan without the defense is still a star.

Tim Duncan without the defense isn't Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan is also a guy whose athleticism was a big part of his success on offense. The reason Okafor is a bad defender is because he doesn't have the athleticism/speed of a Tim Duncan, he's a below the rim player. I think a comparison is flawed from the beginning when the comparison is one of the top 5 players of all time. If I had to liken either of Towns or Okafor to Duncan, it's be Towns. Okafor's post game is nowhere near Duncan's either. Duncan had a jump shot for one thing, and was better everywhere basically.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#53 » by FargoWolf » Wed May 20, 2015 3:00 am

Murphs56 wrote:
FargoWolf wrote:My main concern with Okafor is that you need a Serge Ibaka or Draymond Green type of four to make up for his defensive issues. Good luck finding that guy or getting him to come here.

Towns could fit next to a ton of players at 4, heck he could even play the 4 next to Pek for a while if he could make a miraculous recovery from his injury issues.


Yeah but with Okafor, KG will be working with him every day on his defense. His game will improve obviously. That low post scoring though. Not many come into the league with what he's got.


No guarantee KG can fix it, did he make Lopez a defensive force for the Nets? Not really.

Meanwhile Towns is bringing with him a good defensive and offensive background, he seems like the kind of guy that will soak up whatever KG will teach him. Could KG make him into a 2 way force? If so I will take that any day over an elite post scorer, tired of no defense playing bigs.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#54 » by Worm Guts » Wed May 20, 2015 3:00 am

Luciferswings wrote:
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Luciferswings wrote:I'll ask again. Who is the prototype for J.Okafor to be a star?


Tim Duncan offensively. And Tim Duncan without the defense is still a star.

Tim Duncan without the defense isn't Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan is also a guy whose athleticism was a big part of his success on offense. The reason Okafor is a bad defender is because he doesn't have the athleticism/speed of a Tim Duncan, he's a below the rim player. I think a comparison is flawed from the beginning when the comparison is one of the top 5 players of all time. If I had to liken either of Towns or Okafor to Duncan, it's be Towns. Okafor's post game is nowhere near Duncan's either. Duncan had a jump shot for one thing, and was better everywhere basically.


Well, that's your opinion. Tim Duncan was never that athletic, Okafor is more powerful and probably has a more advanced post game than Duncan had at 19. Obviously you need the defense to be an all-time great, but if you give your team 25 a night you're doing pretty well.
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Post#55 » by Luciferswings » Wed May 20, 2015 3:03 am

Sure, it's my opinion. It also seems to be the majority opinion, among scouts and otherwise. Even if I knew nothing about basketball, and was just a businessman, I'd look at the situation and take Towns. There's a reason we're hearing Woj leaks about how Towns might try to force his way to the Lakers. Because everyone knows he's going #1, no matter what they say publicly about "exploring all options", I mean, unless he's got a hidden injury problem that's serious.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#56 » by C.lupus » Wed May 20, 2015 3:05 am

Luciferswings wrote:
Worm Guts wrote::
Luciferswings wrote:I'll ask again. Who is the prototype for J.Okafor to be a star?


Tim Duncan offensively. And Tim Duncan without the defense is still a star.

Tim Duncan without the defense isn't Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan is also a guy whose athleticism was a big part of his success on offense. The reason Okafor is a bad defender is because he doesn't have the athleticism/speed of a Tim Duncan, he's a below the rim player. I think a comparison is flawed from the beginning when the comparison is one of the top 5 players of all time. If I had to liken either of Towns or Okafor to Duncan, it's be Towns. Okafor's post game is nowhere near Duncan's either. Duncan had a jump shot for one thing, and was better everywhere basically.

To be fair, you originally asked "What player in the recent past is a model for him to succeed as a star in this league?" Tim Duncan could certainly be a model for success.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#57 » by urinesane » Wed May 20, 2015 3:06 am

Maefteda wrote:I'm still torn... Towns seems to be consensus #1 though, so he makes more sense. He also fits this team perfectly and then there's this:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoHfZOdh2pk[/youtube]


Please this duo with Rubio/Bazz/Lavine/Dieng for the foreseeable future.

Would be an exciting core to build with of 2 way players and very high character guys.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#58 » by Murphs56 » Wed May 20, 2015 3:06 am

Luciferswings wrote:Sure, it's my opinion. It also seems to be the majority opinion, among scouts and otherwise. Even if I knew nothing about basketball, and was just a businessman, I'd look at the situation and take Towns. There's a reason we're hearing Woj leaks about how Towns might try to force his way to the Lakers. Because everyone knows he's going #1, no matter what they say publicly about "exploring all options", I mean, unless he's got a hidden injury problem that's serious.


There's some Okafor guys out there too. It's not a landslide for Towns by any means
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#59 » by urinesane » Wed May 20, 2015 3:07 am

Luciferswings wrote:
Worm Guts wrote::
Luciferswings wrote:I'll ask again. Who is the prototype for J.Okafor to be a star?


Tim Duncan offensively. And Tim Duncan without the defense is still a star.

Tim Duncan without the defense isn't Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan is also a guy whose athleticism was a big part of his success on offense. The reason Okafor is a bad defender is because he doesn't have the athleticism/speed of a Tim Duncan, he's a below the rim player. I think a comparison is flawed from the beginning when the comparison is one of the top 5 players of all time. If I had to liken either of Towns or Okafor to Duncan, it's be Towns. Okafor's post game is nowhere near Duncan's either. Duncan had a jump shot for one thing, and was better everywhere basically.


THIS!

Even one half of an all time great, doesn't equal that all time great. Even if you give him the offense, he is no Duncan on defense.

Towns reminds me a lot more of a potential Duncan than Okafor.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#60 » by Luciferswings » Wed May 20, 2015 3:07 am

To be even fairer Tim Duncan isn't a model for Okafor, because Okafor lacks his D, athleticism and shooting game, regardless of how close you think their post games is.

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