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Sedale Threatt wrote:Passing up Russell is going to be tough. If you think he can be a 40 percent 3-point shooter, with his vision, that's a pretty damn special player, especially in today's NBA.
wafer88 wrote:miggs wrote:wafer88 wrote:Knicks fan just said ''Byron is less useless than Jerry Buss right now'' on the general board. Classy
it's all good bro, we held our own in that general board. that poeman dude is one salty son of a bitch. no biggie though, I don't wish bad on NYK just know Dolan does enough.
Too high on cloud nine, NYK insults feel like confetti
Yup that's a great attitude to have man! It's too happy of a day to worry about that stuff
Truth spoken, guys over think the ability of a guy to learn defense. You can learn defense and learn to be better at it. But you can't learn offensive skill....you're either born with it or you're not.TylersLakers wrote:I actually screamed and shrieked like a small child when our logo didn't pop up at 4. I've been dancing around my apartment since.
Holy hell. Glorious. Just, a happy moment for the last couple years we've had to endure and not getting Chris Paul. Huge.
Towns or Okafor. There's no other option. No Russell, No Mudiay. Put a big man down there. For those worried about Okafor's D, look at Andrew Bynum when he first came in the league. Nothing special athletically or physically other than the fact he was 7 feet tall with long arms. Okafor can grow as a defensive player.
SmartWentCrazy wrote:It's extremely unlikely that they end up in the top 3.They're probably better off trying to win and giving Philly the 8th pick than tanking and giving them the 4th.
DEEP3CL wrote:Truth spoken, guys over think the ability of a guy to learn defense. You can learn defense and learn to be better at it. But you can't learn offensive skill....you're either born with it or you're not.TylersLakers wrote:I actually screamed and shrieked like a small child when our logo didn't pop up at 4. I've been dancing around my apartment since.
Holy hell. Glorious. Just, a happy moment for the last couple years we've had to endure and not getting Chris Paul. Huge.
Towns or Okafor. There's no other option. No Russell, No Mudiay. Put a big man down there. For those worried about Okafor's D, look at Andrew Bynum when he first came in the league. Nothing special athletically or physically other than the fact he was 7 feet tall with long arms. Okafor can grow as a defensive player.
Defense is concepts, schemes used by a team as a whole, all this can be taught. Offensive skills and the work ethic it takes can NEVER be taught. That said both Towns and Okafor have room for improvements on the weakest parts of their games. And for the record Towns can score, his college system held him back. And Okafor will be a better defender in the pros in a few short seasons. He didn't have a back up at Duke, and if anybody paid attention to ball you'd know his defense was a byproduct of that. I saw flashes of his potential on D in the many games I saw him play.
Bottom line we'll be ok with either....
Sedale Threatt wrote:Passing up Russell is going to be tough. If you think he can be a 40 percent 3-point shooter, with his vision, that's a pretty damn special player, especially in today's NBA.
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Slava wrote:I pulled a hammy while fapping. I won't make fun of Nash.
Jahlil can hit the mid range jumper from the elbow, he has an arsenal of moves to keep even the most seasoned vets off balance. Julius and Jahlil could develop a nice high low game because both are pretty decent passers, Jahlil probably a little better. Both can also take turns posting, Julius is probably a better turn/face and go with speed off the dribble than Jahlil but Okafor knows he can do damage on the low block with an array of spin moves and up and unders.LApwnd wrote:DEEP3CL wrote:Truth spoken, guys over think the ability of a guy to learn defense. You can learn defense and learn to be better at it. But you can't learn offensive skill....you're either born with it or you're not.TylersLakers wrote:I actually screamed and shrieked like a small child when our logo didn't pop up at 4. I've been dancing around my apartment since.
Holy hell. Glorious. Just, a happy moment for the last couple years we've had to endure and not getting Chris Paul. Huge.
Towns or Okafor. There's no other option. No Russell, No Mudiay. Put a big man down there. For those worried about Okafor's D, look at Andrew Bynum when he first came in the league. Nothing special athletically or physically other than the fact he was 7 feet tall with long arms. Okafor can grow as a defensive player.
Defense is concepts, schemes used by a team as a whole, all this can be taught. Offensive skills and the work ethic it takes can NEVER be taught. That said both Towns and Okafor have room for improvements on the weakest parts of their games. And for the record Towns can score, his college system held him back. And Okafor will be a better defender in the pros in a few short seasons. He didn't have a back up at Duke, and if anybody paid attention to ball you'd know his defense was a byproduct of that. I saw flashes of his potential on D in the many games I saw him play.
Bottom line we'll be ok with either....
does Okafor have a jump shot? When Bayless was speaking he didn't mention that part about Okafor offense, but he did say Towns can post up and spread the floor, which is more preferable since Randle will do the same.
SmartWentCrazy wrote:It's extremely unlikely that they end up in the top 3.They're probably better off trying to win and giving Philly the 8th pick than tanking and giving them the 4th.
Slava wrote:Sedale Threatt wrote:Passing up Russell is going to be tough. If you think he can be a 40 percent 3-point shooter, with his vision, that's a pretty damn special player, especially in today's NBA.
Okafor generated 1.36 points per isolation possession at Duke as a freshman, if he even comes close to replicating that in the NBA, I don't see any guard matching that kind of offensive output. The man is just an offensive hub with his footwork, passing and post moves and don't think anyone else in the draft is in the same league as him and Towns.
Swav718 wrote:The NBA does not like the Knicks. They should of got top 3 ahead of Lakers
DEEP3CL wrote:Lot of salty kids on the GB and Philly board, ehh.....F'em. Guys are already talking about who fits better with who, so what if Okafor and Randle aren't you're classic ideal fit. You have to amass the best players period, and the game is played in a non conventional way anyway now.
For me forget all this talk about a guard...you have to ALWAYS grab a big if he can play, and it's obvious that Towns and Okafor can play. Both have their strengths and weakness, Towns is defensively ready and Okafor is offensively ready.
But it pisses me off that today's crop of guys that watch ball think that for one you can build the perfect team and second that guys are what they are as young players.
Hell even Duncan had holes in his game coming out of college, and he wasn't the defender he later developed to be. David Robinson anchored a lot of the defensive load in the early days of Duncan's career. Tim was also a horrid FT shooter early in his career...but he got better.
So bottom line is guys need to stop beating down Towns and Okafor, neither are your finished product and they both have a long way to being the players they'll end up being. I'm good with either of who we draft.
The pressure is on Minnesota, they have the first pick. This much is clear though, if they take a big then Peckovic is on the move. In fact a lot of players will be moved because of this very draft class.
DEEP3CL wrote:Jahlil can hit the mid range jumper from the elbow, he has an arsenal of moves to keep even the most seasoned vets off balance. Julius and Jahlil could develop a nice high low game because both are pretty decent passers, Jahlil probably a little better. Both can also take turns posting, Julius is probably a better turn/face and go with speed off the dribble than Jahlil but Okafor knows he can do damage on the low block with an array of spin moves and up and unders.
We're gonna be okay.
Unbreakable99 wrote:
Actually most of us Sixers fans are happy with the outcome. I'm happy we got the 3rd pick no one is salty. You are making up stuff. With that said I hope you guys take Okafor and leave Russell for us.
LApwnd wrote:Unbreakable99 wrote:
Actually most of us Sixers fans are happy with the outcome. I'm happy we got the 3rd pick no one is salty. You are making up stuff. With that said I hope you guys take Okafor and leave Russell for us.
I'm sure thats the case but you guys were probably salivating at the thought of getting our pick and I"m sure we would've had a bunch of your guys trolling us had that happen.
Unbreakable99 wrote:LApwnd wrote:Unbreakable99 wrote:
Actually most of us Sixers fans are happy with the outcome. I'm happy we got the 3rd pick no one is salty. You are making up stuff. With that said I hope you guys take Okafor and leave Russell for us.
I'm sure thats the case but you guys were probably salivating at the thought of getting our pick and I"m sure we would've had a bunch of your guys trolling us had that happen.
Yeah I wanted it but I knew it was a long shot so I wasn't really expecting it. We will get it eventually so it doesn't matter. You guys just need to do your job and take whoever is available between Towns and Okafor.
LApwnd wrote:Unbreakable99 wrote:LApwnd wrote:
I'm sure thats the case but you guys were probably salivating at the thought of getting our pick and I"m sure we would've had a bunch of your guys trolling us had that happen.
Yeah I wanted it but I knew it was a long shot so I wasn't really expecting it. We will get it eventually so it doesn't matter. You guys just need to do your job and take whoever is available between Towns and Okafor.
honestly there was no losing for you guys in this draft....you get #1 or 2 you get so many trade options. 3rd you still get the player you need and if we do take Russell you still get to trade for a whole bunch of stuff given any of the 3 embiid/noel/okafor.
poeman wrote:It just upsets me more that Lakers got the 2nd pick.
That piece of **** franchise does not deserve the #2 pick....
I don't make anything up, I read you board. You had a lot of guys there already saying the Lakers won't make the playoffs, they'll be bottom 6 or 7, and anything else a hater could think of. The reality of it is, we don't know what's going to happen from here til June 25th. There is on actual way anybody can predict what the Lakers will look like next season until free agency is completed and the draft is done.Unbreakable99 wrote:DEEP3CL wrote:Lot of salty kids on the GB and Philly board, ehh.....F'em. Guys are already talking about who fits better with who, so what if Okafor and Randle aren't you're classic ideal fit. You have to amass the best players period, and the game is played in a non conventional way anyway now.
For me forget all this talk about a guard...you have to ALWAYS grab a big if he can play, and it's obvious that Towns and Okafor can play. Both have their strengths and weakness, Towns is defensively ready and Okafor is offensively ready.
But it pisses me off that today's crop of guys that watch ball think that for one you can build the perfect team and second that guys are what they are as young players.
Hell even Duncan had holes in his game coming out of college, and he wasn't the defender he later developed to be. David Robinson anchored a lot of the defensive load in the early days of Duncan's career. Tim was also a horrid FT shooter early in his career...but he got better.
So bottom line is guys need to stop beating down Towns and Okafor, neither are your finished product and they both have a long way to being the players they'll end up being. I'm good with either of who we draft.
The pressure is on Minnesota, they have the first pick. This much is clear though, if they take a big then Peckovic is on the move. In fact a lot of players will be moved because of this very draft class.
Actually most of us Sixers fans are happy with the outcome. I'm happy we got the 3rd pick no one is salty. You are making up stuff. With that said I hope you guys take Okafor and leave Russell for us.
SmartWentCrazy wrote:It's extremely unlikely that they end up in the top 3.They're probably better off trying to win and giving Philly the 8th pick than tanking and giving them the 4th.
