With the 4th pick in the NBA draft, the New York Knicks select...

[92Knicksfan93]

Here's a sleeper pick in a trade down/trade for an additional first/purchase a second round pick scenario:

SG Michael Qualls 6'4 w/o shoes (6'5 with shoes), 212 LBs, 7'0 wingspan with 8'8 standing reach. He's scoring (dunking and jump shooting) wing player. Last season at Arkansas these were his numbers:
15.9 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.7 apg, 0.9 spg
Per 40 minutes: 21.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 2.2 apg, 1.2 spg
Per 100 possessions: 117 O-Rating, 102 D-Rating
Player Efficiency Rating: 21.7
Shooting: 43% FG, 50.4% 2pts, 33.3% 3pts, 77.5% FT, 56.2 TS%, 50.2 eFG%,
Win Shares/40 Minutes: .177

This is how draft express describe's him defensively
"On the defensive side of the ball, Qualls combines his length along with pesky perimeter defense to force 1.4 steals per 40 minutes pace adjusted. His aggressive style of perimeter defense can get him in trouble sometimes, though, as he's not quite quick enough moving his feet to consistently pressure his man 25 feet from the hoop, and he can frequently put himself out of position going for steals. He also tends to roam quite a bit off the ball, frequently losing his man while he watches the ball handler for opportunities to jump the passing lanes. If he can become a more disciplined defender, there's some potential there for Qualls to be a more consistent contributor on that end of the court."

This guy's got demonstrated potential to be the best SG prospect in the class.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3agBb9I5s
http://www.draftexpress.com

Here's highlight reel
http://youtu.be/1r2mvLkNLiI

[machu46]

I think there's too much time left before the draft to give a definitive answer right now.

Not sure it's safe to assume Russell goes top 3 and its Mudiay that falls. If it is Mudiay, that's a tough break because he's the worst fit for the Knicks system IMO.

Personally, I'm not a fan of Winslow. I think Porzingis and Hezonja are better prospects, but I can't really see the Knicks going with those two.

Seems like you basically have to hope one of the other top 4 guys falls instead of Mudiay.


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[xsaberx]

agree - russel or mudiay (or if one of the bigs drop) 4 player draft - no one really knows who is the best player - in my eyes the two guards have the highest potential - the two bigs, not as much - I'm happy - as long as we pick the one of the four and keep him

[bigfnjoe96]

RASSSSSHHHHOOOOOOO.............................................

[Fat]

Mudiay

[moocow007]

Mudiay was considered the top player in his HS class by quite a few scouts for a reason before the start of last season. I'm not sure that he's done anything in the CBA to really expose weaknesses that wasn't already known.

He is the best shot creator in the draft. His jumper needs work but it's not broken. While he's not John Wall, he is a big, athletic PG that can pass and create shots.

I think you go with whomever is left out of the general consensus top 4 guys. Definitely would not take any other US side player at 4 besides whomever is left of the top 4 US players. Only other guys that maybe should be under consideration would be the 2 Euro's and I only say that cause I've not seen either play. Everyone else I have seen play and none of them stands out as being someone that should be taken.

The Knicks need big talent. They need to come out of this draft with a type A impact player, not a role player (regardless of how good a role player he may become). Role players come later once you have your core established. Core first. Landing in the top 4 guarantees them a shot at one. Assuming Towns, Okafor and Russel, go, Mudiay is the next closest thing to that type of type A player.

[Besart19]

If Minny picks Okafor or Towns => we pick Mudiay or Russell
If Lakers picks Mudiay or Russell => we pick Towns or Okafor

all the 4 options are possible... I'm not worried about these 4 prospects... I'm worried about any silly move from our FO

[AllanH20]

The four top guys have #1 level talent, take the one who fails. It's not that hard, actually we now have the easiest selection in the draft. The thought of WCS or Winslow at #4 makes me want to forget this league ever existed. Mudiay's shooting issues have been exaggerated. He shot 48% from the field and 34% from China this year. Also..

Improvements: For one, Mudiay's jump shot. "A Spurs scout thought that he had a very good form, but he just needed to work on being more consistent," the CBA scout said. "Everyone says it's lack of practice." Abunassar said that's been a key focus in training, and Mudiay has improved. "He has elite range and mechanics," he said. In addition, Mudiay needs to be a bit more efficient with his mid-range game. "He likes to attack the basket every time, and he can probably stand to pull up more," the CBA scout said. "If he wants to have longevity in his career, he has to choose when to attack wisely."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2448030-nba-insiders-break-down-the-good-and-the-bad-for-draft-lotterys-top-prospects

[Knicked_Up]

Mudiay. This is now a guard league and he has a chance to be a great one. If they take anyone besides him or trade the pick well then I'm done.

[Juggynaut]

Some1 mentioned Marbury as Mudiay's comparison and I can see some similarities. Marbury was a better shooter and flashier but Mudiay is bigger.

[knicks94]

Does this really matter if "Knicks Expected To Make No.4 Pick 'Very Available'"?

I want the Knicks to draft whoever could make a serious impact on them but if there are reports that Phil Jackson and Steve Mills are going to trade this pick away then what difference does this make?

[AllanH20]

For anyone who wants Winslow:

His figures dip quite a bit when he’s not playing alongside the All-America center—from 45% behind the arc and 52% overall down to just 31% from three and 40% overall. And he’s struggled mightily at the elbow, where he’d frequently get the ball in the triangle, shooting just 18% (8-of-45) from there, per Shot Analytics. (The Knicks handle the ball on the elbow an NBA-high 32 times a game, according to SportVU.) Winslow’s jump-shot inconsistency is similar to that of ex-Knick Iman Shumpert’s in that the nature of his misses—with air balls, or shots that miss the rim altogether—is more troubling than the actual percentage he shoots. Additionally, his 63% mark at the line is subpar for someone at his position.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/will-there-ever-be-justise-for-the-knicks-1428095059

He's not a shooter, his mechanics are terrible and he has no range on his three. Also, he's 6'4'', shorter than both Russell and Mudiay. He's going to have to play the 2 but he has a terrible handle.

What do you see in Winslow? Defense? Mudiay is one of the best defensive prospects in this draft. Mudiay is bigger, I would honestly rather play Mudiay at the 2 than Winslow. He provides everything that Winslow does plus refined pg skills, infinitely more potential, and can create his own shot.

[omerome]

Mudiay. This is now a guard league and he has a chance to be a great one. If they take anyone besides him or trade the pick well then I'm done.

That's true. I mean there are so many out there like Curry, Harden, and Westbrook who are dominant. You need a guard who can put pressure on them to defend as well as having him defend the opposition.

I still wanted Russell, but as good as he is and his abilities, can we really count on him to defend the best players at his position?

[Hijinks]

i really want a point guard after all those years of jokes of players on that position. mudiay seems to have the court vision and even can post up ala JKidd. He may not be the next chris paul, but he most likely will be a solid starting point guard from all that i read.

[Dbloc123]

If Minny picks Okafor or Towns => we pick Mudiay or Russell
If Lakers picks Mudiay or Russell => we pick Towns or Okafor

all the 4 options are possible... I'm not worried about these 4 prospects... I'm worried about any silly move from our FO

This,, We have options I just hope the organization don't **** it up...

[Jay10]

It all comes down to the workout between Russell and Mudiay for the 76ers.

The Knicks may still end up getting Russell.

[sasso]

Does this really matter if "Knicks Expected To Make No.4 Pick 'Very Available'"?

I want the Knicks to draft whoever could make a serious impact on them but if there are reports that Phil Jackson and Steve Mills are going to trade this pick away then what difference does this make?

I highly doubt they will trade the pick. If they want to trade down for multiple picks, there aren't any attractive packages of multiple picks. Boston would be the only realistic team with multiple first round picks and they only have picks 16 and 28 so it's not going to happen. If they want to trade the pick for a veteran, another team will have to want a PG because that's what we will end up with. How many teams need PGs in the league? Maybe just the Kings. The Kings aren't trading Cousins. Who else on their team is worth trading the 4th pick for? No one. If they want to trade the pick to get rid of Calderon, what team with a need at PG will want to trade for 2 PGs (Calderon and the rookie)? No one. We're not trading the pick.

For the record, I love Mudiay. We should definitely keep him.

[King of Canada]

I think Mudiay is the only option unless a)somebody picks him first, opening up another option, or b) we trade the pick. It's a no brainer to me.

Oh, and this is not taking into account somebody else really blowing people away in workouts.

[moocow007]

For anyone who wants Winslow:

His figures dip quite a bit when he’s not playing alongside the All-America center—from 45% behind the arc and 52% overall down to just 31% from three and 40% overall. And he’s struggled mightily at the elbow, where he’d frequently get the ball in the triangle, shooting just 18% (8-of-45) from there, per Shot Analytics. (The Knicks handle the ball on the elbow an NBA-high 32 times a game, according to SportVU.) Winslow’s jump-shot inconsistency is similar to that of ex-Knick Iman Shumpert’s in that the nature of his misses—with air balls, or shots that miss the rim altogether—is more troubling than the actual percentage he shoots. Additionally, his 63% mark at the line is subpar for someone at his position.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/will-there-ever-be-justise-for-the-knicks-1428095059

He's not a shooter, his mechanics are terrible and he has no range on his three. Also, he's 6'4'', shorter than both Russell and Mudiay. He's going to have to play the 2 but he has a terrible handle.

What do you see in Winslow? Defense? Mudiay is one of the best defensive prospects in this draft. Mudiay is bigger, I would honestly rather play Mudiay at the 2 than Winslow. He provides everything that Winslow does plus refined pg skills, infinitely more potential, and can create his own shot.

Yeah I've not really been a big fan of Winslow from the start (even from the McDonalds AA game). I do agree that his mechanics are not good, that he dose not have a good handle and will probably have to play more SG in the NBA. I would not pick him over Mudiay.

[NoLayupRule]

If Minny picks Okafor or Towns => we pick Mudiay or Russell
If Lakers picks Mudiay or Russell => we pick Towns or Okafor

all the 4 options are possible... I'm not worried about these 4 prospects... I'm worried about any silly move from our FO

me too

its pretty straight up

if there is a surprise in the draft - either Lakers going small or Phili taking Mudiay or anyone top 3 taking a euro or Winslow or someone - then you pounce

But if it all plays out as planned then you take Mudiay, you fill out the roster from there with a solid backcourt of Mudiay, Galloway, Shved, Calderon and Hardaway. You spend on the front court and we expect we all know that that player is Monroe.