PAT's Moved Back to the 15

Post #1 » by **MickeyDavis** » Tue May 19, 2015 11:44 pm

The NFL is moving back extra-point kicks and allowing defenses to score on 2-point conversion turnovers.

NFL owners voted to move extra-point kicks to the 15-yard line and allow defenses to score on 2-point conversion turnovers. Mitchell Layton/Getty Images
The owners on Tuesday approved the competition committee's proposal to snap the ball from the 15-yard line on PATs to make them more challenging. In recent seasons, kickers made more than 99 percent of the kicks with the ball snapped from the 2.

That proposal places the 2-point conversion at the 2 and allows the defense to return a turnover to the other end zone for the two points, similar to the college rule.

The vote was 30-2. Washington and Oakland voted no. The rule change will be reviewed after one year.

zmanishere11 · Post #2 » by **zmanishere11** » Wed May 20, 2015 12:32 am

I think this is stupid.

That is all.

chuckleslove · Post #3 » by **chuckleslove** » Wed May 20, 2015 12:47 am

Can they run a fake extra point from the 15 and score two points?

BUCKnation · Post #4 » by **BUCKnation** » Wed May 20, 2015 2:19 am

Just get rid of them already.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #5 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Wed May 20, 2015 4:06 am

Yeah so **** dumb.

HKPackFan · Post #6 » by **HKPackFan** » Wed May 20, 2015 7:14 am

Meh...Seems like fixing something that doesn't need fixin.

I guess there's the slight possibility this could be a mild HFA when it's outdoors in bad weather a 32 yard xp maybe the homefield kicker has a slight advantage?? Maybe this rules changes 99% xp completion, to 90%? If so, then so what?

I guess it also makes injuries to a Kicker a bigger deal because 32 yards is harder for a non-kicker specialist in an emergency situation....

Meh...Still think it's trying to hard too fix something that doesn't need fixing.

I don't mind giving 2pts to the defense on a 2pt try, that's kinda fun.

sidney moncrief · Post #7 » by **sidney moncrief** » Wed May 20, 2015 2:14 pm

I don't want to see games decided by a missed extra point, and this rule change makes that scenario a more likely possibility this season.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #8 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Wed May 20, 2015 2:22 pm

sidney moncrief wrote:I don't want to see games decided by a missed extra point, and this rule change makes that scenario a more likely possibility this season.

this ×100. Really what NFL fans were sitting around saying boy I wish there were more missed extra points?

The whole thing doesn't make sense. They looked at the extra point because people felt it was an unnecessary play that still had a chance for guys to get hurt.. OK I get that and would have been fine just getting rid of it. Instead they make just slightly less of a gimme play but don't solve any of the safety issues that brought this issue up in the first place.

Post #9 » by **humanrefutation** » Wed May 20, 2015 2:42 pm

Over the last five years, kickers made 93% of all FGs from that distance. I don't think this changes much.

LUKE23 · Post #10 » by **LUKE23** » Wed May 20, 2015 2:51 pm

Goodell messing with something that didn't need messing with? Stun.

Kerb Hohl · Post #11 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Wed May 20, 2015 3:21 pm

I'm fine with them tinkering with it if they really want to, but do something different. As somebody said before, I don't want to see a game decided by a missed extra point, but more importantly, I don't want to see the **** kicker position gain more value.

sidney moncrief · Post #12 » by **sidney moncrief** » Wed May 20, 2015 4:00 pm

humanrefutation wrote:Over the last five years, kickers made 93% of all FGs from that distance. I don't think this changes much.

Well of course a large majority of XP's will still be converted. But if we now go from 1 out of 100 being missed to 1 out of 15, odds are that will impact the outcome of a game this year. Do we really want to see somebody lose because their kicker missed the 32-yard extra point?

If the league considers the extra point meaningless, just get rid of it and make the touchdown an automatic 7. Don't make it a more difficult and MORE meaningful play.

Newz · Post #13 » by **Newz** » Wed May 20, 2015 4:28 pm

This dum, yo.

trwi7 · Post #14 » by **trwi7** » Wed May 20, 2015 8:28 pm

This is dumb but you can still attempt 2 point conversions from the 2. I hope we just go for 2 after every touchdown.

HKPackFan · Post #15 » by **HKPackFan** » Thu May 21, 2015 1:35 am

trwi7 wrote:This is dumb but you can still attempt 2 point conversions from the 2. I hope we just go for 2 after every touchdown.

In my flag league a 1pt conversion is a 5yrd play a 2pt conversion is a 10yrd play. That makes more sense then this rule.

Agreed with kohl the kicker position just got more important. With games decided often by slim margins there is not a lot of margin of error. Teams with an injured or shaky kicker could be adding a loss or two.

They wanted to add a slight amount of drama to a boring play that could now be the difference in a game. Weird. It is still a boring play.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #16 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Fri May 22, 2015 4:07 am

So does it make more mathematical sense go forth it? If you are converting 45%+ and only 90% on field goals, i could see a lot of team going for 2 on late tds to win instead of a tie.

El Duderino · Post #17 » by **El Duderino** » Fri May 22, 2015 8:28 am

Just get rid of the extra point try. Seven points for a TD unless a team goes for two, then they get either six or eight.

HKPackFan · Post #18 » by **HKPackFan** » Fri May 22, 2015 9:16 am

El Duderino wrote:Just get rid of the extra point try. Seven points for a TD unless a team goes for two, then they get either six or eight.

I would be ok with this. Instead of being gimmicky.

Post #19 » by **humanrefutation** » Fri May 22, 2015 2:30 pm

El Duderino wrote:Just get rid of the extra point try. Seven points for a TD unless a team goes for two, then they get either six or eight.

I agree with removing the extra point try, but I'd rather not punish a team for doing for two. So, make the two point conversion a one point play. 7 automatically for the TD. One extra if you convert from the two yard line.

emunney · Post #20 » by **emunney** » Fri May 22, 2015 3:45 pm

humanrefutation wrote:Over the last five years, kickers made 93% of all FGs from that distance. I don't think this changes much.

I think it does, but not because of missed XPs. I think the psychological difference is huge, and we see a ton more 2 pt tries. Ultimately, that's what the league is hoping for, too.