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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#481 » by Kevin Willis » Thu May 21, 2015 4:53 pm

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Kevin Willis wrote:Would you offer a couple of the lower picks for a guy like Lowry?


Yeah I think I would, but If Mitch has another Clarkson in his bag or really likes Russell...


I wouldn't, at least not at draft time. Taking on Lowry takes us out of FA or at least take us out of the majority of our target options. PG are abundance in this league and we could always take the chance that Clarkson cont. to improve, we really lack a solid 3/d wings.



If you sign LA in FA would you do Randle, Jordan Hill and your two late picks for Lowry and one of Toronto's wings (Daniels or James Johnson). You get an all-star PG without dealing with Rondo. You get a young wing player. You lose Randle, which is the big loss, and a 24 and 37 who are unlikely to make a difference before Kobe retires, if at all. And if you have Okafor, losing Randle is less of a hit. You have an all-star PG, SG, PF and potential all-star C. With Clarkson, Swaggy P, Davis, Johnson coming off the bench. That could be a playoff team.
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#482 » by LApwnd » Thu May 21, 2015 4:58 pm

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Yeah I think I would, but If Mitch has another Clarkson in his bag or really likes Russell...


I wouldn't, at least not at draft time. Taking on Lowry takes us out of FA or at least take us out of the majority of our target options. PG are abundance in this league and we could always take the chance that Clarkson cont. to improve, we really lack a solid 3/d wings.



If you sign LA in FA would you do Randle, Jordan Hill and your two late picks for Lowry and one of Toronto's wings (Daniels or James Johnson). You get an all-star PG without dealing with Rondo. You get a young wing player. You lose Randle, which is the big loss, and a 24 and 37 who are unlikely to make a difference before Kobe retires, if at all. And if you have Okafor, losing Randle is less of a hit. You have an all-star PG, SG, PF and potential all-star C. With Clarkson, Swaggy P, Davis, Johnson coming off the bench. That could be a playoff team.


no, I'd give up only Randle/27th at best for Lowry, neither of your wings are starter material sorry.
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#483 » by Ballerhogger » Thu May 21, 2015 4:59 pm

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I wouldn't, at least not at draft time. Taking on Lowry takes us out of FA or at least take us out of the majority of our target options. PG are abundance in this league and we could always take the chance that Clarkson cont. to improve, we really lack a solid 3/d wings.



If you sign LA in FA would you do Randle, Jordan Hill and your two late picks for Lowry and one of Toronto's wings (Daniels or James Johnson). You get an all-star PG without dealing with Rondo. You get a young wing player. You lose Randle, which is the big loss, and a 24 and 37 who are unlikely to make a difference before Kobe retires, if at all. And if you have Okafor, losing Randle is less of a hit. You have an all-star PG, SG, PF and potential all-star C. With Clarkson, Swaggy P, Davis, Johnson coming off the bench. That could be a playoff team.


no, I'd give up only Randle/27th at best for Lowry, neither of your wings are starter material sorry.

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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#484 » by crazyeights » Thu May 21, 2015 5:17 pm

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Yeah I think I would, but If Mitch has another Clarkson in his bag or really likes Russell...


I wouldn't, at least not at draft time. Taking on Lowry takes us out of FA or at least take us out of the majority of our target options. PG are abundance in this league and we could always take the chance that Clarkson cont. to improve, we really lack a solid 3/d wings.



If you sign LA in FA would you do Randle, Jordan Hill and your two late picks for Lowry and one of Toronto's wings (Daniels or James Johnson). You get an all-star PG without dealing with Rondo. You get a young wing player. You lose Randle, which is the big loss, and a 24 and 37 who are unlikely to make a difference before Kobe retires, if at all. And if you have Okafor, losing Randle is less of a hit. You have an all-star PG, SG, PF and potential all-star C. With Clarkson, Swaggy P, Davis, Johnson coming off the bench. That could be a playoff team.


I haven't even heard a rumor that we're in the race for Aldridge, let along that it's likely...so that throws off your entire premise.

Not a huge fan of LMA/Okafor together. Honestly would rather throw Randle and Okafor together from the start and let them evolve together for the next decade. Okafor is NBA-ready, but he's not going to dominate for a few years. It's going to take time for him to adjust to the speed/length of the game...so why go for LMA at 29? We won't be competing with a poor defensive center and an old Kobe.

Frankly, if we didn't even make an offer to Lowry last season it makes no damn sense we'd trade Julius for him PLUS more picks.

Horrible idea in the West. Where CP3/Blake/DJ can't even sniff at the WCF....

Lowry would hardly be a 3rd tier player in the West--and I like Lowry.
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#485 » by Kevin Willis » Thu May 21, 2015 5:25 pm

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I wouldn't, at least not at draft time. Taking on Lowry takes us out of FA or at least take us out of the majority of our target options. PG are abundance in this league and we could always take the chance that Clarkson cont. to improve, we really lack a solid 3/d wings.



If you sign LA in FA would you do Randle, Jordan Hill and your two late picks for Lowry and one of Toronto's wings (Daniels or James Johnson). You get an all-star PG without dealing with Rondo. You get a young wing player. You lose Randle, which is the big loss, and a 24 and 37 who are unlikely to make a difference before Kobe retires, if at all. And if you have Okafor, losing Randle is less of a hit. You have an all-star PG, SG, PF and potential all-star C. With Clarkson, Swaggy P, Davis, Johnson coming off the bench. That could be a playoff team.


no, I'd give up only Randle/27th at best for Lowry, neither of your wings are starter material sorry.



I'm ok with Randle/27th. But as crazyeights said it would only work if you actually want LA, if not then the whole trade is mute.
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#486 » by crazyeights » Thu May 21, 2015 5:30 pm

Kevin Willis wrote:
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Kevin Willis wrote:

If you sign LA in FA would you do Randle, Jordan Hill and your two late picks for Lowry and one of Toronto's wings (Daniels or James Johnson). You get an all-star PG without dealing with Rondo. You get a young wing player. You lose Randle, which is the big loss, and a 24 and 37 who are unlikely to make a difference before Kobe retires, if at all. And if you have Okafor, losing Randle is less of a hit. You have an all-star PG, SG, PF and potential all-star C. With Clarkson, Swaggy P, Davis, Johnson coming off the bench. That could be a playoff team.


no, I'd give up only Randle/27th at best for Lowry, neither of your wings are starter material sorry.



I'm ok with Randle/27th. But as crazyeights said it would only work if you actually want LA, if not then the whole trade is mute.


I like LMA a lot. I just think for him he fits much better going home to Texas with a vet team like the Spurs...who could stay away from a championship-ready team like that? What does he see in a swan-song Kobe and a rookie pick?

At 29, he'll either stay in Portland or bold to a contender. Not a start-up.
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#487 » by BEazy » Thu May 21, 2015 5:51 pm

I wouldn't give up Randle without seeing what he's capable of. I would make Randle, Clarkson, 2nd pick untouchable.
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#488 » by Marionettetc » Thu May 21, 2015 10:23 pm

Kevin Willis wrote:
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Kevin Willis wrote:

If you sign LA in FA would you do Randle, Jordan Hill and your two late picks for Lowry and one of Toronto's wings (Daniels or James Johnson). You get an all-star PG without dealing with Rondo. You get a young wing player. You lose Randle, which is the big loss, and a 24 and 37 who are unlikely to make a difference before Kobe retires, if at all. And if you have Okafor, losing Randle is less of a hit. You have an all-star PG, SG, PF and potential all-star C. With Clarkson, Swaggy P, Davis, Johnson coming off the bench. That could be a playoff team.


no, I'd give up only Randle/27th at best for Lowry, neither of your wings are starter material sorry.



I'm ok with Randle/27th. But as crazyeights said it would only work if you actually want LA, if not then the whole trade is mute.



It's "moot", by the way. Mute means no sound, Moot means subject to debate.

I don't generally correct people but this one along with "all intensive purposes" induces rage.

Kyle Lowry also shot 41/34/80 last year, no one is giving up anything of value for him. Especially not Randle.
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#489 » by Sofa King » Thu May 21, 2015 10:51 pm

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LApwnd wrote:
no, I'd give up only Randle/27th at best for Lowry, neither of your wings are starter material sorry.



I'm ok with Randle/27th. But as crazyeights said it would only work if you actually want LA, if not then the whole trade is mute.



It's "moot", by the way. Mute means no sound, Moot means subject to debate.

I don't generally correct people but this one along with "all intensive purposes" induces rage.

Kyle Lowry also shot 41/34/80 last year, no one is giving up anything of value for him. Especially not Randle.


We have Clarkson, Randal, and some late picks. Rather package something for Westbrooke than Lowry any day.
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#490 » by LApwnd » Thu May 21, 2015 10:55 pm

I think we should get on the euro stash pick game, draft express had us taking Cedi Osman prior to the draft order but now they changed it to Olivier Hanlan. Osman is a 6 8 swing who looks to be a solid shooter with decent athleticism, maybe another reincarnation Hedo? Hedo wasn't bad at this younger age.
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#491 » by dockingsched » Thu May 21, 2015 11:35 pm

LApwnd wrote:
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I wouldn't, at least not at draft time. Taking on Lowry takes us out of FA or at least take us out of the majority of our target options. PG are abundance in this league and we could always take the chance that Clarkson cont. to improve, we really lack a solid 3/d wings.



If you sign LA in FA would you do Randle, Jordan Hill and your two late picks for Lowry and one of Toronto's wings (Daniels or James Johnson). You get an all-star PG without dealing with Rondo. You get a young wing player. You lose Randle, which is the big loss, and a 24 and 37 who are unlikely to make a difference before Kobe retires, if at all. And if you have Okafor, losing Randle is less of a hit. You have an all-star PG, SG, PF and potential all-star C. With Clarkson, Swaggy P, Davis, Johnson coming off the bench. That could be a playoff team.


no, I'd give up only Randle/27th at best for Lowry, neither of your wings are starter material sorry.

Personally, I don't even consider giving up Randle for Lowry much less adding a late first.
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#492 » by Sofa King » Sat May 23, 2015 9:29 am

Lakers will hold pre-draft workouts this Tuesday May 26th and Thursday May 28th at their current practice facility at the Toyota Center in El Segundo. No names have been announced as of yet. However, sources indicate that the Lakers will go between KAT or Okafor with their #2, but Lakers are more interested in finding a good fit for their 27th and 34th pick. Same sources indicate that they are looking for pure PG or SF at those two positions. Lakers have also been overheard having discussions about purchasing another late second round pick for cash.
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#493 » by Mirjalovic » Sat May 23, 2015 10:18 am

What ? How many times i must tell you, Randle is a keeper and we cannot afford to losing him. what his massive weaknesses that make you think he is a massive **** bust and need to be traded ASAP ? I don't **** understand. He was top 3 prospect coming out of from high school, the best freshman in NCAA, can score over 5 players, one of the quickest 4 in NBA, he is just not a shotblocker FFS.. why because of that you guys forget he CAN actually PLAY BASKETBALL ? You can be a great defender without shotblocking ability.

Sofa King wrote:Lakers will hold pre-draft workouts this Tuesday May 26th and Thursday May 28th at their current practice facility at the Toyota Center in El Segundo. No names have been announced as of yet. However, sources indicate that the Lakers will go between KAT or Okafor with their #2, but Lakers are more interested in finding a good fit for their 27th and 34th pick. Same sources indicate that they are looking for pure PG or SF at those two positions. Lakers have also been overheard having discussions about purchasing another late second round pick for cash.


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shawn_hemp wrote: a guy who is far worse than Robert Covington in Brandon Ingram, and a guy who is no better than TJ McConnell or Tony Wroten in D'Angelo Russell.

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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#494 » by Sofa King » Sat May 23, 2015 6:27 pm

You have to look at the mocks and see who are available late in the first round that play PG and SF
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#495 » by LApwnd » Sat May 23, 2015 6:51 pm

Sofa King wrote:Lakers will hold pre-draft workouts this Tuesday May 26th and Thursday May 28th at their current practice facility at the Toyota Center in El Segundo. No names have been announced as of yet. However, sources indicate that the Lakers will go between KAT or Okafor with their #2, but Lakers are more interested in finding a good fit for their 27th and 34th pick. Same sources indicate that they are looking for pure PG or SF at those two positions. Lakers have also been overheard having discussions about purchasing another late second round pick for cash.

Interesting bout buying another 2nd rd pic....there was another report that said mitch didnt want to go into the season with 3 rookies either. Hopefully this means we'll try to trade up with 27/34th or that 2nd he would be buying and we take a euro with remaining pick and stash him
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#496 » by Sofa King » Sat May 23, 2015 7:52 pm

The Lakers have plenty of options to fill in their holes at PG and SF with picks, trades, and free agents. If they dont see any good prospects with their pick, they can easily trade them in a package deal to another team. By then buy a second roubd pick for depth and a cheap contract that could be another Clarkson.
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#497 » by Sofa King » Sat May 23, 2015 7:54 pm

I hope Mitch and Jimmy can build as many assets as they can until a Star player signs with them. They should learn from having Dwight and trash around him didnt get them anywhere.
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#498 » by Wavy Q » Sat May 23, 2015 9:29 pm

Lowry is far too injury prone to make me want to even consider trading Randle for him
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#499 » by Asianiac_24 » Sat May 23, 2015 9:44 pm

Why would we want Lowry? We won't be contending anytime soon, and Lowry will just be taking playing time away from JC and hinders his development. Hell no to Randle for Lowry, much less adding a late first
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Re: NBA Draft Lottery 2015 | Lakers Pick #2, #27 and #34 

Post#500 » by Sofa King » Sun May 24, 2015 6:28 am

Rumor has it about 50-60 players are coming in to work out on Tues and Thurs. Rashad Vaughn, Robert Upshaw, Jarrell Martin, Christian Wood, and JP Tokoto are all on the Lakers radar.

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