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Draft Thread: Who do you want with the 13th pick? Stanley Johnson and WCS added..change votes if you want

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Which three guys would you most like to draft if they are there at 13?

Kevon Looney
23
11%
Devin Booker
18
9%
Myles Turner
38
18%
Frank Kaminsky
48
23%
Trey Lyles
13
6%
Bobby Portis
15
7%
Willie Cauley-Stein
18
9%
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
9
4%
Stanley Johnson
17
8%
Montrezl Harrell
9
4%
 
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Re: Offical Draft Thread: What should we do with the 13/14th pick and 43/44th pick? 

Post#981 » by kennydorglas » Thu May 21, 2015 10:19 pm

Ryu wrote:
Saberestar wrote:NBA mock draft - 2015: Paul Coro's first edition.
13. Phoenix Suns: Devin Booker, Kentucky, 6-6, 206, shooting guard, freshman
Booker is not skilled beyond his shot but his deep range has boosted his stock. He has good court acumen but lacks the athleticism of most NBA wing players.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... 5a47920782


Ugh. I`d try to avoid one-dimensional future role players in the lottery range.


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Post#982 » by Damkac » Thu May 21, 2015 11:26 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:I think we'll use some of our assets (possibly involving pick 13) on a ready made starting PF.

Whether that's Enes Kanter, Greg Monroe, Draymond Green, Tobias Harris, Nikola Mirotic.

McDonough's picks fill the other positions - Bledsoe, Knight, Warren, ____, Len.

If your goal is mediocrity then it's a good plan.

I'm sick of trying to make the playoffs and failing every year. Of course young guys don't get many minutes as making the PO is more important than developing the youth. And in the end it leaves us with another 13th-14th pick. Yay!

With so many teams wanting to trade their pick and compete it's good occasion for rebuild. If McD and Hornacek can't live without dual pg lineup then trade Bled for 4th and pick Mudiay who is better playmaker and has sg size.
Although I personally would take Winslow. He can be next Kawhi, Butler, Paul George. I would play him as sg and Warren as sf.
Of course I would like Towns or Russell but I don't think we could get them.
Mayby Okafor could be available but he couldn't play together with Len.
Kristaps has great potential but is very risky.
Mario looks a bit like a rich man's Gerald Green. Very similar strenghts and weaknesses.

I will be very disappointed if the Suns would keep the roster only adding next mediocre players and not giving minutes to TJ and Archie because it may possibly lose them soem games.
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Re: Offical Draft Thread: What should we do with the 13/14th pick and 43/44th pick? 

Post#983 » by thamadkant » Thu May 21, 2015 11:47 pm

Damkac wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:I think we'll use some of our assets (possibly involving pick 13) on a ready made starting PF.

Whether that's Enes Kanter, Greg Monroe, Draymond Green, Tobias Harris, Nikola Mirotic.

McDonough's picks fill the other positions - Bledsoe, Knight, Warren, ____, Len.

If your goal is mediocrity then it's a good plan.

I'm sick of trying to make the playoffs and failing every year. Of course young guys don't get many minutes as making the PO is more important than developing the youth. And in the end it leaves us with another 13th-14th pick. Yay!

With so many teams wanting to trade their pick and compete it's good occasion for rebuild. If McD and Hornacek can't live without dual pg lineup then trade Bled for 4th and pick Mudiay who is better playmaker and has sg size.
Although I personally would take Winslow. He can be next Kawhi, Butler, Paul George. I would play him as sg and Warren as sf.
Of course I would like Towns or Russell but I don't think we could get them.
Mayby Okafor could be available but he couldn't play together with Len.
Kristaps has great potential but is very risky.
Mario looks a bit like a rich man's Gerald Green. Very similar strenghts and weaknesses.

I will be very disappointed if the Suns would keep the roster only adding next mediocre players and not giving minutes to TJ and Archie because it may possibly lose them soem games.



And thats my biggest gripe also.

Suns miss out on the playoffs but the youth only got 10-15 minutes a game.

McD should of given Hornacek until All-Star break to be on a certain winning percentage. If they are scrapping at 8th spot by all-star break, McD should INSTRUCT Hornacek to start playing the youth major minutes.
If the Suns continue to be competitive and win games and still finish 8th... PERFECT!!!...
If the Suns lose more games and drop to 9th or 10th.... fine... atleast the youth get VITAL development time.

But fighting for the last playoff spot, neglecting the youth is a road to mediocrity.
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Post#984 » by TrueWarrior » Thu May 21, 2015 11:56 pm

1UPZ wrote:Mudiay's athleticism and aggressiveness to the basket is elite.

I'm sure Hornacek would love to add a shooter. As he would simply try to inprove the team incrementally. But McD is still in star-search mode.

The question is... Does Knicks need a player like Bledsoe. Can he play in the triangle.


You guys are pretty down on Bledsoe huh. I think I'd rather just keep Mudiay/Russell, whoever falls.
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Post#985 » by bwgood77 » Fri May 22, 2015 12:23 am

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1UPZ wrote:Mudiay's athleticism and aggressiveness to the basket is elite.

I'm sure Hornacek would love to add a shooter. As he would simply try to inprove the team incrementally. But McD is still in star-search mode.

The question is... Does Knicks need a player like Bledsoe. Can he play in the triangle.


You guys are pretty down on Bledsoe huh. I think I'd rather just keep Mudiay/Russell, whoever falls.


Some are. More of the complainers or people that have superstar expectations of all draft picks are out in more forces these days. Personally, if the Suns did trade Bledsoe for the 4th pick, I'd take Porzingis.
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Re: Offical Draft Thread: What should we do with the 13/14th pick and 43/44th pick? 

Post#986 » by bhawk » Fri May 22, 2015 12:30 am

Credit to SunsFanSSOL for this....

http://www.bazegod.com/sports/2015/5/20 ... white-nope

No Porzingis please. Nope.
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Post#987 » by TrueWarrior » Fri May 22, 2015 12:31 am

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1UPZ wrote:Mudiay's athleticism and aggressiveness to the basket is elite.

I'm sure Hornacek would love to add a shooter. As he would simply try to inprove the team incrementally. But McD is still in star-search mode.

The question is... Does Knicks need a player like Bledsoe. Can he play in the triangle.


You guys are pretty down on Bledsoe huh. I think I'd rather just keep Mudiay/Russell, whoever falls.


Some are. More of the complainers or people that have superstar expectations of all draft picks are out in more forces these days. Personally, if the Suns did trade Bledsoe for the 4th pick, I'd take Porzingis.


Well that'd make sense since you have Knight. Just surprised at all the Bledsoe hate on here since I thought he was one of the better 2 way guards in the league. Still needs to take the next step and he has some personality/leadership issues I see, but not someone you should be trying to trade I'd think. Do you value him or Knight higher?
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Post#988 » by kennydorglas » Fri May 22, 2015 12:45 am

bhawk wrote:Credit to SunsFanSSOL for this....

http://www.bazegod.com/sports/2015/5/20 ... white-nope

No Porzingis please. Nope.


Yeah, Porzingis is getting really overrated right now.
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Post#989 » by bwgood77 » Fri May 22, 2015 12:53 am

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You guys are pretty down on Bledsoe huh. I think I'd rather just keep Mudiay/Russell, whoever falls.


Some are. More of the complainers or people that have superstar expectations of all draft picks are out in more forces these days. Personally, if the Suns did trade Bledsoe for the 4th pick, I'd take Porzingis.


Well that'd make sense since you have Knight. Just surprised at all the Bledsoe hate on here since I thought he was one of the better 2 way guards in the league. Still needs to take the next step and he has some personality/leadership issues I see, but not someone you should be trying to trade I'd think. Do you value him or Knight higher?


I have to see more of Knight. I think they might be a good combo, but the lack of size is an issue. Knight has the outside shooting and Bledsoe the defense. Personally I want the Suns to always have one of them on the floor, play each a total of 32 minutes, 16 with each other and 16 with a sharpshooting traditional 2 who also gets 32 minutes. That leaves us with no real subpar pg on the floor ever.

But if I had to choose between one or the other, I'm not sure either is the type of guy that is a good pure pg that can lead a contending team, so I don't know. I need to see more of Knight. Bledsoe doesn't seem to have leadership skills. Not sure if Knight does, but I do like that he is a high character guy.
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Re: Offical Draft Thread: What should we do with the 13/14th pick and 43/44th pick? 

Post#990 » by bwgood77 » Fri May 22, 2015 1:00 am

bhawk wrote:Credit to SunsFanSSOL for this....

http://www.bazegod.com/sports/2015/5/20 ... white-nope

No Porzingis please. Nope.


Interesting. I've said a few times I don't know much about Porzingis and haven't seen him, but I do wonder why some are so high on him and he has so much buzz if there are that many question marks. I don't know who this bazegod is...if it is someone like Fischella claiming to be the expert on every issue but without much experience in scouting, or a real scout.
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Post#991 » by RaisingArizona » Fri May 22, 2015 1:40 am

TrueWarrior wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
TrueWarrior wrote:
You guys are pretty down on Bledsoe huh. I think I'd rather just keep Mudiay/Russell, whoever falls.


Some are. More of the complainers or people that have superstar expectations of all draft picks are out in more forces these days. Personally, if the Suns did trade Bledsoe for the 4th pick, I'd take Porzingis.


Well that'd make sense since you have Knight. Just surprised at all the Bledsoe hate on here since I thought he was one of the better 2 way guards in the league. Still needs to take the next step and he has some personality/leadership issues I see, but not someone you should be trying to trade I'd think. Do you value him or Knight higher?


I'd be royally pissed if we traded Bledsoe for the #4 pick.
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Post#992 » by thamadkant » Fri May 22, 2015 2:47 am

TrueWarrior wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Mudiay's athleticism and aggressiveness to the basket is elite.

I'm sure Hornacek would love to add a shooter. As he would simply try to inprove the team incrementally. But McD is still in star-search mode.

The question is... Does Knicks need a player like Bledsoe. Can he play in the triangle.


You guys are pretty down on Bledsoe huh. I think I'd rather just keep Mudiay/Russell, whoever falls.



We like Bledsoe... well most of us do.
But when McD made the move for Knight... and envisioning Knight as an off-ball player next to Bledsoe... its a concern for some Suns fans here. Firstly, Bledsoe isnt the best play maker, he is a drive/then dish type of guy... like Westbrook... they get assists because they find players open for shot... they dont actually "create" plays or paths for their team mates creatively.

Basically, some Suns fans prefer to have only ONE of Bledsoe or Knight..
But since Knight is a RFA... all the trade proposals for draft picks is limited to Bledsoe.
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Post#993 » by Mulhollanddrive » Fri May 22, 2015 4:57 am

I'd have Hollis-Jefferson and Wood as smokies for pick 13.

McDonough loves his elite athleticism and work ethic, and the other guys in the 10-20 range are contributors more than having standout factors like that.
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Post#994 » by RaisingArizona » Fri May 22, 2015 5:20 am

Booker fills a need. Either through draft, trade, or FA we need to add a knock down shooter.
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Post#995 » by Ryu » Fri May 22, 2015 6:41 am

ginobiliflops wrote:Booker fills a need. Either through draft, trade, or FA we need to add a knock down shooter.


I am not sure Booker is a better prospect than Reggie Bullock. Instead of wasting a lottery pick on a role player just give minutes next season to Bullock and we can potentialy have a tall, 3 and D guard.
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Post#996 » by Ryu » Fri May 22, 2015 6:42 am

Damkac wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:I think we'll use some of our assets (possibly involving pick 13) on a ready made starting PF.

Whether that's Enes Kanter, Greg Monroe, Draymond Green, Tobias Harris, Nikola Mirotic.

McDonough's picks fill the other positions - Bledsoe, Knight, Warren, ____, Len.

If your goal is mediocrity then it's a good plan.

I'm sick of trying to make the playoffs and failing every year. Of course young guys don't get many minutes as making the PO is more important than developing the youth. And in the end it leaves us with another 13th-14th pick. Yay!

With so many teams wanting to trade their pick and compete it's good occasion for rebuild. If McD and Hornacek can't live without dual pg lineup then trade Bled for 4th and pick Mudiay who is better playmaker and has sg size.
Although I personally would take Winslow. He can be next Kawhi, Butler, Paul George. I would play him as sg and Warren as sf.


I agree with everything you said here.
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Post#997 » by Ryu » Fri May 22, 2015 6:46 am

ginobiliflops wrote:I'd be royally pissed if we traded Bledsoe for the #4 pick.


Not if we get a guy like Winslow or Russell. I like Bledsoe, I really do, but we are going nowhere with him as a leader, primary ballhandler and a first option, there are no stars we can realisticaly get via trade so we should draft one. Winslow will be one hell of a player.
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Post#998 » by DirtyDez » Fri May 22, 2015 7:39 am

Ryu wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:Booker fills a need. Either through draft, trade, or FA we need to add a knock down shooter.


I am not sure Booker is a better prospect than Reggie Bullock. Instead of wasting a lottery pick on a role player just give minutes next season to Bullock and we can potentialy have a tall, 3 and D guard.


He's a significantly better prospect actually. Bullock at 19 was nowhere near the player Booker is.
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Post#999 » by Ryu » Fri May 22, 2015 8:04 am

DirtyDez wrote:
Ryu wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:Booker fills a need. Either through draft, trade, or FA we need to add a knock down shooter.


I am not sure Booker is a better prospect than Reggie Bullock. Instead of wasting a lottery pick on a role player just give minutes next season to Bullock and we can potentialy have a tall, 3 and D guard.


He's a significantly better prospect actually. Bullock at 19 was nowhere near the player Booker is.


OK, maybe, probably. But my point was we already have a young 3-and-D guy who needs (and probably gets with Green gone) minutes next season. I`d much rather pick a bigman with the 13th (Turner, Kaminsky, Looney...).
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Post#1000 » by Mr-Al » Fri May 22, 2015 9:44 am

Ryu wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:I'd be royally pissed if we traded Bledsoe for the #4 pick.


Not if we get a guy like Winslow or Russell. I like Bledsoe, I really do, but we are going nowhere with him as a leader, primary ballhandler and a first option, there are no stars we can realisticaly get via trade so we should draft one. Winslow will be one hell of a player.


imo I wouldn't do it for Russell but I would do it for Winslow in a second

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