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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2981 » by SmoothLefty21 » Thu May 21, 2015 8:43 pm

TBH our free agency situation is more depressing than our draft situation. I don't see this summer ending well. :(

Gasol would be a great upgrade since we have nothing at the moment but after watching him the last two postseasons he will get absolutely destroyed in NY. He has shot under 40% from the floor over the last two postseasons and that includes a poor showing against the smallball Warrior lineups. He would fit so well in the Triangle though and I'd love to have him. I don't think he leaves Memphis so it doesn't matter anyway.

I don't see Wes leaving Portland. Can't imagine MIL letting Middleton go.

Monroe, Carroll & Millsap are about the only decent targets I think we have a shot at. And "decent" is all they are.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#2982 » by Besart19 » Thu May 21, 2015 9:19 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
Besart19 wrote:If we can land M.Gasol (18.5), D.Carroll (5.5M) and Wesley/Danny (9M) than I dont care at all who we pick at draft night!!

Mudiay (Russell)
Green (Matthews)
Carroll (C.Brewer)
Carmelo
M.Gasol

Championship!!

yeah - or Middleton for that 9mil

but man that would be a coup if we did it

Sadly that means Melo has to play the 4 but we can sign Elton Brand to the min and he's still good for 10 - 15 a night
And there is always Amare


Middletton is RFA and its very probable that they would match that offer... same goes for Butler and Kawhi)... While Green, Matthews and Carroll are UFA... But we can sign one of the RFA and play Galloway at guard position!!

But for these moves to happen, first we need to do dump Calderon (and Timmy) contract and get at 35-37M cap space
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Post#2983 » by Besart19 » Thu May 21, 2015 9:24 pm

The main piece would be Gasol... then everything will fall in place!!

Young lead guard in Russell/Mudiay, a second guard in Galloway (in the role of Fisher), Melo as our main scorer, a 3&D swingman/tweener who can pass and rebound well and Gasol at center to be our rim protection, the anchor of our defense and the high/low post presence who can score and pass with ease!! That's a perfect combination to build a contending team

That would be our best starting lineup since our '96-'99 teams!!
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Post#2984 » by Fat » Thu May 21, 2015 9:31 pm

Calderon
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Monroe
Porzingis

lowkey could be a nice squad it has potential
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Post#2985 » by Johnny Hoops » Thu May 21, 2015 9:48 pm

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I like him as a post player and playmaker at his position. What I dont like is him not being known for his defense. We need to cover

1. interior scoring/ passing
2. consistent shooting from the 3
3. interior defense
4. playmaking/ penetrating guard

We will draft a pick to cover some of this but I think Interior defense is very very important.


Well, he's the closest thing we can get to what we were hoping for from Okafor, both offensively and defensively. If we get a top guard in the draft, we would have upgraded major sections of our SL. Not championship worthy, but maybe playoff worthy. We could be better set up for future improvements.


Thank you for speaking some sense in terms of Monroe....I'll add 24 years old.
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Post#2986 » by Johnny Hoops » Thu May 21, 2015 9:55 pm

Triston Thompson growing on anybody?

He was very impressive defensively last night against Milsap and has been a horse on the boards in playoffs - also making a few buckets.
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Post#2987 » by Johnny Hoops » Thu May 21, 2015 9:57 pm

Thompson would be a nice guy to go get the clanks put up by say Melo, Manny and Moose.

He's also a decent go-small option if say Moose goes to bench.
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Post#2988 » by ozwizard8 » Thu May 21, 2015 10:04 pm

i wonder e.kanter's next contract.

he was so dominant in the post and scored 20ppg with %57fg in OKC. he can shoot FT, midrange shots.
i think he can fit in triangle easily and his post game is efficient.
monroe isnt there. his post game isnt efficient even in East against worser teams.

If we can get e.kanter on good deal that would be so good. we'll need defensive center too. draft WCS?
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Post#2989 » by TrueWarrior » Thu May 21, 2015 10:42 pm

Johnny Hoops wrote:
GONYK wrote:
JayKnicKz11 wrote:I like him as a post player and playmaker at his position. What I dont like is him not being known for his defense. We need to cover

1. interior scoring/ passing
2. consistent shooting from the 3
3. interior defense
4. playmaking/ penetrating guard

We will draft a pick to cover some of this but I think Interior defense is very very important.


Well, he's the closest thing we can get to what we were hoping for from Okafor, both offensively and defensively. If we get a top guard in the draft, we would have upgraded major sections of our SL. Not championship worthy, but maybe playoff worthy. We could be better set up for future improvements.


Thank you for speaking some sense in terms of Monroe....I'll add 24 years old.


Mudiay and Monroe would need to improve their jumpers to really make it click offensively. Would open up a lot more options if even just Monroe became a respectable shooter. That way we wouldn't need to worry so much about adding the unicorn-like dual shot blocker/floor spacer Ibaka/AD type next to him and could focus more on only a defender there.

Obviously go after Gasol, Aldridge, and Love first but Monroe wouldn't be that bad. Maybe I'm warming up to the inevitable, but he's still young and would be cheaper than the other MAXs. Piston fans seem to really like him and want him back, plus they say his D is actually alright and definitely overblown. He's just better against centers.

Galloway / Jose
Mudiay / Timmy
Melo / Early
Amir Johnson
Monroe / Koufos

Not ideal, but it's a start. We'd have a top scoring wing, a penetrating athletic lead guard, and a low post/passing big man with two glue guy/defenders. Could be much worse. When the cap rises we would add to that core further. Monroe would give us everything Okafor would likely give us and more next year, and he has an old man game that should last into his mid-late thirties. Amir has actually developed a decent jumper and he's a very versatile defender. Koufos played with Gasol a lot and can defend some PFs, so he may not be a bad fit next to Monroe for spurts.
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Post#2990 » by Carl_Karlson » Thu May 21, 2015 11:19 pm

So is it possible to get Monroe and Oka4? Because that sounds like a horrible defensive front court
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Post#2991 » by GONYK » Thu May 21, 2015 11:22 pm

Carl_Karlson wrote:So is it possible to get Monroe and Oka4? Because that sounds like a horrible defensive front court


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Post#2992 » by Carl_Karlson » Thu May 21, 2015 11:31 pm

GONYK wrote:
Carl_Karlson wrote:So is it possible to get Monroe and Oka4? Because that sounds like a horrible defensive front court


And offensive



And Monroe, according to the rumors, is very likely to get an offer from the knicks

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Post#2993 » by iLovethosedamnknicks » Fri May 22, 2015 2:37 am

Nyk_Fatboy wrote:Calderon
Green
Carmelo
Monroe
Porzingis

lowkey could be a nice squad it has potential


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Post#2994 » by Zooropa » Fri May 22, 2015 2:52 am

The more I think about this, the more I love it:

#4/Caldeon's contract/right to swap picks in 2017/2019 first rounder for #1 and Shabazz Muhammad.
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Post#2995 » by god4gives » Fri May 22, 2015 10:40 am

Max for an aging injury prone Gasol seem stupid and risky. Knicks should invest in younger guys like Monroe as a power forward playing alongside younger Centers like Koufos, or Ajinca. I'm i wrong?
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Post#2996 » by Esq-4 » Fri May 22, 2015 2:38 pm

god4gives wrote:Max for an aging injury prone Gasol seem stupid and risky. Knicks should invest in younger guys like Monroe as a power forward playing alongside younger Centers like Koufos, or Ajinca. I'm i wrong?


I agree. Just a matter of whether Monroe is a 4 or 5. Team should not be pressured to win now just for Melo. If Melo doesn't like it too bad. He should have thought of that before he forced the trade to NY and depleted our roster. Sure other bad organizational moves have been made, but we don't have to build a team with a 3 year window, we can right the ship long-term. Otherwise, go all in and trade the pick to win now ala Boston (I dont want to-although if it brings a chip I'll get over it).

As to Monroe, if we can get him, we should get him. It is an extremely rare chance to sign a young player not a restricted FA. How many top picks are FA at 24 who are actually good players? Ok4 is not an option now. You could argue that Monroe brings the same low post scoring, passing as OK4 and while the ceiling may be lower, we know he can play in this league and has a few years under his belt. Good combination of win now and later. Ok4 could be a franchise cornerstone or a bust or somewhere in between. Monroe is on the higher side of in between.

Gasol and LA are both older players. I like them both and welcome them to the team. But, aside from thinking they won't come, I don't know if they are enough to get us over the hump and the have less productive, healthy years.

My biggest concern with Monroe is defense (same concern as with Ok4). So the next question is, who can you pair him with?
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Post#2997 » by Huey Freeman » Fri May 22, 2015 2:52 pm

Besart19 wrote:Middletton is RFA and its very probable that they would match that offer...

Then you force Milwaukee match, you GOTTA go after him early. We're going to need shooters next to Melo and Greg Monroe. Yes, I said Greg Monroe. NYK is going to wind up signing him when Aldridge and Gasol say "thanks, but but no thanks". Get ready for it.
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Post#2998 » by Ray Williams » Fri May 22, 2015 3:03 pm

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god4gives wrote:Max for an aging injury prone Gasol seem stupid and risky. Knicks should invest in younger guys like Monroe as a power forward playing alongside younger Centers like Koufos, or Ajinca. I'm i wrong?


I agree. Just a matter of whether Monroe is a 4 or 5. Team should not be pressured to win now just for Melo. If Melo doesn't like it too bad. He should have thought of that before he forced the trade to NY and depleted our roster. Sure other bad organizational moves have been made, but we don't have to build a team with a 3 year window, we can right the ship long-term. Otherwise, go all in and trade the pick to win now ala Boston (I dont want to-although if it brings a chip I'll get over it).

As to Monroe, if we can get him, we should get him. It is an extremely rare chance to sign a young player not a restricted FA. How many top picks are FA at 24 who are actually good players? Ok4 is not an option now. You could argue that Monroe brings the same low post scoring, passing as OK4 and while the ceiling may be lower, we know he can play in this league and has a few years under his belt. Good combination of win now and later. Ok4 could be a franchise cornerstone or a bust or somewhere in between. Monroe is on the higher side of in between.

Gasol and LA are both older players. I like them both and welcome them to the team. But, aside from thinking they won't come, I don't know if they are enough to get us over the hump and the have less productive, healthy years.

My biggest concern with Monroe is defense (same concern as with Ok4). So the next question is, who can you pair him with?[/quote]

Josh Smith? I like the Atlanta version, maybe he can be had cheap and would offer some shotblocking next to Monroe and Melo.
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Post#2999 » by Normalyute » Fri May 22, 2015 3:06 pm

What about giving McGhee a shot.
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Post#3000 » by AllanH20 » Fri May 22, 2015 3:33 pm

Normalyute wrote:What about giving McGhee a shot.


He's one of the stupidest players in the NBA.

I think Robin Lopez might be our best option at the 5. He's very underrated, the Blazers improved a lot defensively once they acquired him.
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