THE Aaron Gordon thread

LBPTarHeel27 · Post #501 » by **LBPTarHeel27** » Sat May 23, 2015 1:51 am

ezzzp wrote:

Why isn't everyone wearing Draymond's sneaks?

...must be the shoes.

VoiceOReason · Post #502 » by **VoiceOReason** » Sat May 23, 2015 2:39 am

DontPushMe wrote:Hope I'm wrong and he comes on strong in a year or so, but for me his ceiling is Chris Anderson.

Shame we couldn't get up for Wiggins.

How could you even compare Anderson to him? Gordon a some semblance of a shot and handles Anderson has neither...not even in the same galaxy

Kev_bundles · Post #503 » by **Kev_bundles** » Sat May 23, 2015 3:37 am

DontPushMe wrote:Hope I'm wrong and he comes on strong in a year or so, but for me his ceiling is Chris Anderson.

Shame we couldn't get up for Wiggins.

lmfaooo this a joke post?

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Orlwillbeback · Post #504 » by **Orlwillbeback** » Sat May 23, 2015 4:55 am

Okay im watching some of the old games from last year and i guess i didnt quite realize it at the time but AG is **** tuurrrrible. Minimal offensive skills and feel and no real position right now. It will take some kind of meteoric rise for him to eventually become a contributor.

Neon1 · Post #505 » by **Neon1** » Sat May 23, 2015 5:00 am

Orlwillbeback wrote:Okay im watching some of the old games from last year and i guess i didnt quite realize it at the time but AG is **** tuurrrrible. Minimal offensive skills and feel and no real position right now. It will take some kind of meteoric rise for him to eventually become a contributor.

Still better him on court extended minutes then Frye....

MagicFan32 · Post #506 » by **MagicFan32** » Sat May 23, 2015 11:22 am

he can defend in the league
to be more than a role player he needs to significantly improve his offense

when he dribbles he looks like the white dude at the playground, who has some talent but is afraid to mess up, so he just passes instead of pissing off the better players.

he needs to show improvement in summer league, people think shooting improvement is so easy, going from awful to bad is still not good or NBA caliber

MagicStarwipe · Post #507 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Sat May 23, 2015 12:50 pm

I still don't know why people don't realise we barely even gave him a chance to do anything last season. I feel like I saw more Aaron Gordon in the 5 or 6 college games I watched than I did all of last season. He played 59 total minutes more than Jabari Parker last season. Jabari Parker had a season ending injury in the middle of December. Just think about that for a minute. And when he was on the court we didn't use him anyway. Oh yeah, and he was the 2nd youngest player in the NBA being coached by arguably the worst coaches in the league. I don't know what people expect.

j-ragg · Post #508 » by **j-ragg** » Sat May 23, 2015 1:32 pm

It was definitely frustrating when we'd run plays for the other 14 guys on the team before we ran a play for Aaron. I know he's not quite "ready" but Wiggins wasn't ready when the year started either. Neither was Payton. You gotta let the young guys play, especially if we're getting a bottom 5 record.

DontPushMe · Post #509 » by **DontPushMe** » Sat May 23, 2015 1:41 pm

Orlwillbeback wrote:Okay im watching some of the old games from last year and i guess i didnt quite realize it at the time but AG is **** tuurrrrible. Minimal offensive skills and feel and no real position right now. It will take some kind of meteoric rise for him to eventually become a contributor.

Agreed. The most I can see him being is a high energy defender/rebounder off the bench. Pretty useless unfortunately from #4

ivDT · Post #510 » by **ivDT** » Sat May 23, 2015 2:58 pm

MagicStarwipe wrote:I still don't know why people don't realise we barely even gave him a chance to do anything last season. I feel like I saw more Aaron Gordon in the 5 or 6 college games I watched than I did all of last season. He played 59 total minutes more than Jabari Parker last season. Jabari Parker had a season ending injury in the middle of December. Just think about that for a minute. And when he was on the court we didn't use him anyway. Oh yeah, and he was the 2nd youngest player in the NBA being coached by arguably the worst coaches in the league. I don't know what people expect.

love this post. love your sig.

tiderulz · Post #511 » by **tiderulz** » Sat May 23, 2015 3:08 pm

MagicStarwipe wrote:I still don't know why people don't realise we barely even gave him a chance to do anything last season. I feel like I saw more Aaron Gordon in the 5 or 6 college games I watched than I did all of last season. He played 59 total minutes more than Jabari Parker last season. Jabari Parker had a season ending injury in the middle of December. Just think about that for a minute. And when he was on the court we didn't use him anyway. Oh yeah, and he was the 2nd youngest player in the NBA being coached by arguably the worst coaches in the league. I don't know what people expect.

more from a #4 pick. having the skills which would basically demand that he was used more when on the court.

not saying coaching didnt play into it. but this much of a project shouldnt be drafted that high. but then, teams always want to draft a player on perceived potential. which to me, is around a more athletic version of Nic Batum

ivDT · Post #512 » by **ivDT** » Sat May 23, 2015 3:20 pm

tiderulz wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:I still don't know why people don't realise we barely even gave him a chance to do anything last season. I feel like I saw more Aaron Gordon in the 5 or 6 college games I watched than I did all of last season. He played 59 total minutes more than Jabari Parker last season. Jabari Parker had a season ending injury in the middle of December. Just think about that for a minute. And when he was on the court we didn't use him anyway. Oh yeah, and he was the 2nd youngest player in the NBA being coached by arguably the worst coaches in the league. I don't know what people expect.

more from a #4 pick. having the skills which would basically demand that he was used more when on the court.

not saying coaching didnt play into it. but this much of a project shouldnt be drafted that high. but then, teams always want to draft a player on perceived potential. which to me, is around a more athletic version of Nic Batum

i forget. who was it that everyone wanted us to draft instead of aaron again?

tiderulz · Post #513 » by **tiderulz** » Sat May 23, 2015 3:22 pm

ivDT wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:I still don't know why people don't realise we barely even gave him a chance to do anything last season. I feel like I saw more Aaron Gordon in the 5 or 6 college games I watched than I did all of last season. He played 59 total minutes more than Jabari Parker last season. Jabari Parker had a season ending injury in the middle of December. Just think about that for a minute. And when he was on the court we didn't use him anyway. Oh yeah, and he was the 2nd youngest player in the NBA being coached by arguably the worst coaches in the league. I don't know what people expect.

more from a #4 pick. having the skills which would basically demand that he was used more when on the court.

not saying coaching didnt play into it. but this much of a project shouldnt be drafted that high. but then, teams always want to draft a player on perceived potential. which to me, is around a more athletic version of Nic Batum

i forget. who was it that everyone wanted us to draft instead of aaron again?

if you are taking a project, move back, pick up assets and then find a project. Now, that is dependent on someone wanting to move up I know. just my opinion.

KillMonger · Post #514 » by **KillMonger** » Sat May 23, 2015 3:24 pm

tiderulz wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:I still don't know why people don't realise we barely even gave him a chance to do anything last season. I feel like I saw more Aaron Gordon in the 5 or 6 college games I watched than I did all of last season. He played 59 total minutes more than Jabari Parker last season. Jabari Parker had a season ending injury in the middle of December. Just think about that for a minute. And when he was on the court we didn't use him anyway. Oh yeah, and he was the 2nd youngest player in the NBA being coached by arguably the worst coaches in the league. I don't know what people expect.

more from a #4 pick. having the skills which would basically demand that he was used more when on the court.

not saying coaching didnt play into it. but this much of a project shouldnt be drafted that high. but then, teams always want to draft a player on perceived potential. which to me, is around a more athletic version of Nic Batum

There isn't any other prospect in that draft that's making me regret picking AG

MagicStarwipe · Post #515 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Sat May 23, 2015 3:45 pm

tiderulz wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:I still don't know why people don't realise we barely even gave him a chance to do anything last season. I feel like I saw more Aaron Gordon in the 5 or 6 college games I watched than I did all of last season. He played 59 total minutes more than Jabari Parker last season. Jabari Parker had a season ending injury in the middle of December. Just think about that for a minute. And when he was on the court we didn't use him anyway. Oh yeah, and he was the 2nd youngest player in the NBA being coached by arguably the worst coaches in the league. I don't know what people expect.

more from a #4 pick. having the skills which would basically demand that he was used more when on the court.

not saying coaching didnt play into it. but this much of a project shouldnt be drafted that high. but then, teams always want to draft a player on perceived potential. which to me, is around a more athletic version of Nic Batum

This project stuff is so overstated with Aaron. Elite athleticism, NBA body at 19, high basketball IQ, all world defensive talent, good ball handler, good passer. Does project simply mean he's not a good shooter yet?

His defense and hustle alone should have been enough for him to see the floor a ton more than he did on this team and that's not even all that he could have brought to the table. If anyone doesn't think so they probably spent too much time watching Joke Vaughn and his understudy coaching.

tiderulz · Post #516 » by **tiderulz** » Sat May 23, 2015 3:53 pm

MagicStarwipe wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:I still don't know why people don't realise we barely even gave him a chance to do anything last season. I feel like I saw more Aaron Gordon in the 5 or 6 college games I watched than I did all of last season. He played 59 total minutes more than Jabari Parker last season. Jabari Parker had a season ending injury in the middle of December. Just think about that for a minute. And when he was on the court we didn't use him anyway. Oh yeah, and he was the 2nd youngest player in the NBA being coached by arguably the worst coaches in the league. I don't know what people expect.

more from a #4 pick. having the skills which would basically demand that he was used more when on the court.

not saying coaching didnt play into it. but this much of a project shouldnt be drafted that high. but then, teams always want to draft a player on perceived potential. which to me, is around a more athletic version of Nic Batum

This project stuff is so overstated with Aaron. Elite athleticism, NBA body at 19, high basketball IQ, all world defensive talent, good ball handler, good passer. Does project simply mean he's not a good shooter yet?

His defense and hustle alone should have been enough for him to see the floor a ton more than he did on this team and that's not even all that he could have brought to the table. If anyone doesn't think so they probably spent too much time watching Joke Vaughn and his understudy coaching.

this is the nba, 75% of them have "elite athleticism". thats a major part of why they made it to the NBA. and project means he is a 1-way player right now.

MagicStarwipe · Post #517 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Sat May 23, 2015 3:56 pm

tiderulz wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
more from a #4 pick. having the skills which would basically demand that he was used more when on the court.

not saying coaching didnt play into it. but this much of a project shouldnt be drafted that high. but then, teams always want to draft a player on perceived potential. which to me, is around a more athletic version of Nic Batum

This project stuff is so overstated with Aaron. Elite athleticism, NBA body at 19, high basketball IQ, all world defensive talent, good ball handler, good passer. Does project simply mean he's not a good shooter yet?

His defense and hustle alone should have been enough for him to see the floor a ton more than he did on this team and that's not even all that he could have brought to the table. If anyone doesn't think so they probably spent too much time watching Joke Vaughn and his understudy coaching.

this is the nba, 75% of them have "elite athleticism". thats a major part of why they made it to the NBA. and project means he is a 1-way player right now.

No, not elite athleticism compared to you or me. Compared to his peers in the NBA. 1 way player suggests he's useless offensively and he certainly is not.

Your position on Aaron is pretty clear. You "don't see it." Well, I'm clearly not going to convince you. Aaron will take care of that on the court next season.

tiderulz · Post #518 » by **tiderulz** » Sat May 23, 2015 3:58 pm

MagicStarwipe wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:This project stuff is so overstated with Aaron. Elite athleticism, NBA body at 19, high basketball IQ, all world defensive talent, good ball handler, good passer. Does project simply mean he's not a good shooter yet?

His defense and hustle alone should have been enough for him to see the floor a ton more than he did on this team and that's not even all that he could have brought to the table. If anyone doesn't think so they probably spent too much time watching Joke Vaughn and his understudy coaching.

this is the nba, 75% of them have "elite athleticism". thats a major part of why they made it to the NBA. and project means he is a 1-way player right now.

No, not elite athleticism compared to you or me. Compared to his peers in the NBA. 1 way player suggests he's useless offensively and he certainly is not.

and again, 75% of nba players have elite athleticism. and right now, he is pretty useless offensively. Not Deandre Jordan useless, but he is all hustle points and dunks right now. he was our choice, i hope he develops more, i really do, but that is what i see from him right now.

MagicStarwipe · Post #519 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Sat May 23, 2015 4:02 pm

tiderulz wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
this is the nba, 75% of them have "elite athleticism". thats a major part of why they made it to the NBA. and project means he is a 1-way player right now.

No, not elite athleticism compared to you or me. Compared to his peers in the NBA. 1 way player suggests he's useless offensively and he certainly is not.

and again, 75% of nba players have elite athleticism. and right now, he is pretty useless offensively. Not Deandre Jordan useless, but he is all hustle points and dunks right now. he was our choice, i hope he develops more, i really do, but that is what i see from him right now.

75% of the league are as athletic as Aaron Gordon? Hey, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but I could not disagree more.

tiderulz · Post #520 » by **tiderulz** » Sat May 23, 2015 4:13 pm

MagicStarwipe wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:No, not elite athleticism compared to you or me. Compared to his peers in the NBA. 1 way player suggests he's useless offensively and he certainly is not.

and again, 75% of nba players have elite athleticism. and right now, he is pretty useless offensively. Not Deandre Jordan useless, but he is all hustle points and dunks right now. he was our choice, i hope he develops more, i really do, but that is what i see from him right now.

75% of the league are as athletic as Aaron Gordon? Hey, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but I could not disagree more.

maybe 50% as elite as AG. Doesnt make someone a great player.