Atlanta Hawks 2015 Off-Season Thread

[Hawk Eye]

As far as centers go, how do you guys feel about these players as our center going forward and moving either Millsap/Horford to PF?

Robin Lopez
Brook Lopez
Tyson Chandler
Greg Monroe

I think guys like these are much more in reach for us then a DJ, LMA, or Marc Gasol.

[Jamaaliver]

Top Potential Centers:

Tyson Chandler
Robin Lopez
Kostas Koufos
Omer Asik
Bobby Portis

But my favorite target is Meyers Leonard.

He can shoot, block shots, is a legit 7 feet. Post defense and passing need work, but he clearly fits a need. I saw him get extensive burn this post-season and he is very solid. He's also a member of the 50/40/90 club for all the efficiency and advanced stats guys.

Think of a younger Pero, but who can actually hit threes and block shots...

[Hawk Eye]

Potential Centers:

Robin Lopez
Kostas Koufos
Omer Asik
Bobby Portis

But my favorite target is Meyers Leonard.

He can shoot, block shots, is a legit 7 feet. Post defense and passing need work, but he clearly fits a need. I saw him get extensive burn this post-season and he is very solid. He's also a member of th 50/40/90 for all the efficiency and advanced stats guys.

Think of a younger Pero, but who can actually hit threes and block shots...

I don't like Asik as a fit at all. I watched him a lot in the post season in round 1 and some in the regular season and the dude looks like he gives no effort on the court. He's also got extremely sloppy hands. Didn't put up great numbers at all in that GSW/NOP series. If it were up to me i would stay away from him.

I like Portis but I don't see him coming in and contributing for us right away as far as shot blocking, rebounding, and being able to use his size goes. I'd like to see us go after a big that can help now.

Koufos I like. Typical blue collar big. He may even be in a position where teams could get more out of him as a starter rather than being Mar Gasol's backup. Would he be our starting center or a back up?

Lopez to me is the best fit/choice out of all of them. I think he's the best rim protector of the four you listed and can step in as our starting center today. He's also a great offensive rebounder.

EDIT: I watched that POR/MEM series where CJ McCollum & Meyers Leonard really came into their own. I was really impressed with Leonard as well. I don't think he's starting material but he really would be an upgraded glorified Pero for us. Yes please.

[Jamaaliver]

But the more I think about it, Tyson Chandler makes too much sense. He's been DPOY. He's been a NBA Champion. He has deep playoff experience. He's a locker room leader. His strengths (shot blocking & rebounding) are our weaknesses. He replaces Brand and Pero off the bench. He'd fit well into a rotation with Horford AND Millsap. He wouldn't cost us any trade assets. His cost would reasonable salary wise.

Add Wes Mathews, Tyson Chandler, Bobby Portis to this rotation and it's a clear improvement.

Vets, youth, athleticism, toughness, defense. And it still allows us to shop Teague, Tavares and the Minnesota pick in hopes of a top young wing player.

[Geaux_Hawks]

We just need to find a guy who can come off the bench and has a niche for getting rebounds and playing interior defense. Asik seems like that guy, but someones gonna overpay for him.

Greg Monroe could probably flourish if he came here. He would have the spacing, and opportunity to play down low and showcase his skills very well. Meanwhile, Horford finally moves to the 4, but would ultimately cost us Sap. Not to worried though because we get better and younger.

Should let Schroder have the starting gig or trade him so we can get a more experienced backup PG. If he is the future, might as well trade Teague for something of value, and just bring in a more experienced vet to either start or be a backup.

Upgrading the 2 guard would nice as far as having a more versatile player, and maybe that guy also being a to to kind of guy. Moving Korver to the bench would probably give us more a stronger bench as well.

[Jamaaliver]

We just need to find a guy who can come off the bench and has a niche for getting rebounds and playing interior defense. Asik seems like that guy, but someones gonna overpay for him.

Greg Monroe could probably flourish if he came here. He would have the spacing, and opportunity to play down low and showcase his skills very well. Meanwhile, Horford finally moves to the 4, but would ultimately cost us Sap. Not to worried though because we get better and younger.

Should let Schroder have the starting gig or trade him so we can get a more experienced backup PG. If he is the future, might as well trade Teague for something of value, and just bring in a more experienced vet to either start or be a backup.

Upgrading the 2 guard would nice as far as having a more versatile player, and maybe that guy also being a to to kind of guy. Moving Korver to the bench would probably give us more a stronger bench as well.

Love it! Agree 100%

And I'd much rather pay Greg Monroe $15 million per year and see an INCREASE in production from my investment, than pay Millsap that same amount and HOPE to get the same production as he slowly declines the next few years.

[azuresou1]

I've been a big proponent of resigning Millsap but TBH after these playoffs a lot of his warts have emerged. I was expecting him to put in a lot of heart and effort even if shots weren't falling, but he's mostly been a disappearing act. I would be okay with letting him walk in order to pursue a true center - but that center better be Marc Gasol and not DeAndre Jordan (DJ = mental midget).

I really want us to resign DeMarre - he's been the ONLY starter to show up for these playoffs, and if not for him we probably don't even beat Brooklyn. He's probably my favorite Hawk of all time at this point, and at $10M he'd be well worth the price.

I haven't focused much on the draft, but I'd like a takeover wing scorer if any are available.

[Jamaaliver]

I've been a big proponent of resigning Millsap but TBH after these playoffs a lot of his warts have emerged. I was expecting him to put in a lot of heart and effort even if shots weren't falling, but he's mostly been a disappearing act. I would be okay with letting him walk in order to pursue a true center - but that center better be Marc Gasol and not DeAndre Jordan (DJ = mental midget).

If there was a way to acquire Pau Gasol instead, given his top production this past season, would you be open to acquiring him? I remember you were skeptical last summer, but he put forth an All-Star caliber season and gave that CHI team some strong dependable offense during an injury plagued year for the Bulls.

Pau and Horford could absolutely be a more diverse version of what Memphis has with Marc and Z-Bo...

[Geaux_Hawks]

Demarre should definitely be back. A team is really going to have to overpay to get him to think about leaving. Demarre just seems like the kind of guy that would remain loyal if we paid him a fair amount of money and remain a winner instead of taking the overpay for a not so good team.

I hate to get rid of Millsap, but we need better interior play. Man he would be a great asset off the bench as a sixth man, but I know he wants a big pay day.

[azuresou1]

I've been a big proponent of resigning Millsap but TBH after these playoffs a lot of his warts have emerged. I was expecting him to put in a lot of heart and effort even if shots weren't falling, but he's mostly been a disappearing act. I would be okay with letting him walk in order to pursue a true center - but that center better be Marc Gasol and not DeAndre Jordan (DJ = mental midget).

If there was a way to acquire Pau Gasol instead, given his top production this past season, would you be open to acquiring him? I remember you were skeptical last summer, but he put forth an All-Star caliber season and gave that CHI team some strong dependable offense during an injury plagued year for the Bulls.

Pau and Horford could absolutely be a more diverse version of what Memphis has with Marc and Z-Bo...

Nah, still don't like him. He proved me wrong in regular season but he didn't seem to do much during the playoffs. Plus, he's still a minus on defense. I'd much much much rather go for his brother.

[geeman]

My plan if I was GM
1) try to resign D. Carroll & Millsap
2) bring over Walter Tavares for bench
3) Go after Wesley Matthews, if heathy to start at SG or a player like him.
4) Bring Kyle korver of the bench (sg & sf) ~ 20min per
5) Save his legs, he’ll be 35 next year.
6) Try to trade Dennis Schroder and the 15th pick, for the kings 6th pick and draft Willie Cauley-Stein

If we loose Carroll maybe Jeff Green if he opts out

[ATL Boy]

Re-signing Carroll should be a top priority, along with getting a true Center. If we can get a Tyson Chandler, Marc Gasol, or Deandre Jordan (best case scenarios, even if it means letting Millsap walk) and draft a good wing player, we'll be better next year with a stronger bench (Thabo, Korver, and Schröder would make for a top bench in the nba).

A nice alternative would be if we got re-signed Millsap, and got a Center like Robin Lopez to come off the bench. We can make verbal agreements with Paul and DeMarree and hold off from making the signing official until after we use the $16 or so million of cap space. We have a few avenues to work with, but we have to fill this need!

On draft day I'd also call the Lakers and see if they'd be willing to part with the number 2 pick for some of our assets like Teague, number 15, and the T-Wolves pick. Probably not, but it won't hurt to ask.


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[Jamaaliver]

Looks like momentum is growing that Teague is a good, young player. But not good enough to lead us to the promised land. And is indeed worth more in trade when combined with other assets.

I know at times my opinions can seem like real outliers and outside the common thought process. But this one really seems like Our best shot at true talent improvement.

Teague put up good but not great production in the regular season, but has struggled in these playoffs. He's plateaued as far as his potential. Based on age, contract, production...this is it. This is the peak of his stock. Two years from now he'll likely still be putting this production, but will be asking for a significant raise to do so. Don't wait like we did with Josh until all anyone was willing to offer was table scraps.

[Rip2137]

Missing that Schroder is not a starting caliber point guard in there. Moving Teague for a slight upgrade at the wing makes us a worse team.

Moving Milsap, who is literally better at everything, for Greg Monroe makes us worse.

The point of adding talent is to make the team better, not nudge up the raring in 2k. I'm all for moving Milsap. To give Greg Monroe who can't score outside 3 feet, is a worse defender, and passer because he averages 2 more rebounds than Millsap(the difference being on the offensive boards while playing for a team that shoots 3% worse than ours and goes for off boards by design)

No one is suggesting it but what about Kevin Love?

[Geaux_Hawks]

Missing that Schroder is not a starting caliber point guard in there. Moving Teague for a slight upgrade at the wing makes us a worse team.

Moving Milsap, who is literally better at everything, for Greg Monroe makes us worse.

The point of adding talent is to make the team better, not nudge up the raring in 2k. I'm all for moving Milsap. To give Greg Monroe who can't score outside 3 feet, is a worse defender, and passer because he averages 2 more rebounds than Millsap(the difference being on the offensive boards while playing for a team that shoots 3% worse than ours and goes for off boards by design)

No one is suggesting it but what about Kevin Love?

Monroe has been guarding 4's since Drummond arrived. He would more than likely be better guarding 5's, and also gives us a guy to throw the ball down to on the low block and get us an easy bucket.

He doesn't have the range of Millsap, but he's got a better post game, and more size, and probably doesn't even need the range considering we have floor spacers, but no inside threat.

He's also a stronger rebounder on both the offensive and defensive side than Sap is and this is playing next to a monster rebounder in Drummond.

I agree Schroder isn't ready to make the leap into the starting lineup yet, but we need to make some moves and prepare differently for when he is assuming he is going to be the guy in 1 or 2 years. If he isn't the guy, then let someone else gamble on his potential and crown Teague as the guy for now and in the future.

I would happily take Love or LMA if they are willing to come.

[Rip2137]

I am all for moving Schroder. I dont believe in this mythical ceiling he has.

Monroe, to me, is just another guy putting up solid numbers on a bad team. He puts up good numbers but can a team win giving him the minutes and the touches needed to get that production? I am not willing to gamble 15 million to find out.

[Geaux_Hawks]

Agreed on Schroder

The only knock on Monroe is he can't protect the rim, and can't shoot beyond about 8 ft, but that doesn't mean we can't sign a bench big to do that off the bench though. He can do just about everything else you ask him to do other than that.

He's got plenty of post moves, can rebound, play the high and low post, pass, and defend the post. It's not like he's doing this with a high volume of shots either on bad percentages and efficiency. He's also played out of position as he is a more natural 5.

[tbhawksfan1]

I trade high on:

JT for McLemore or Stauskas and #6
Korver for #14, lamb and Waiters

Draft Porzingis or Winslow and S Johnson

Sign
Monroe 4/58
W Matthews 4/36
Beverly 3/11
Carroll 3/27

Monroe / Moose / Edy
Horf / Porzingis /
Carroll / Johnson / Thabo
Matthews / Stauskas
Schro / Beverly / Mack

Something like this, stay competitive, get younger and more talented

[tbhawksfan1]

Love JT and Korver. Love what the team did this season. Don't want this to end here. Reload with tough decisions that build.

[tbhawksfan1]

My roster is also approx.