2015-16 Fake Trade Thread

[HornetJail]

sounds like they want savings, so they need to trade with a team with cap room. ie not us.

They can still clear about $6M instantly by trade rules.

If they really want savings, they can just not re-sign Lopez if he opts out and take Jefferson and Lance for JJ and JJ.

[BeesWax]

I know we've been through this like 10000000000 times, but with the Nets in the news again about wanting to make moves, curious what folks think about this:

Nets: Lance, Marvin, Hendo (regardless of whether he opts in)
Hornets: JJ, Plumlee

I think it all hinges on what folks hope to get out of Lance.

Quick question - can Hendo be traded before he decides whether to opt in or not, or is there some rule that you can't trade a player if he is in limbo on a player option?

That is kind of my question too. Can we trade Hendo before he opts in or out. In that case he could be a good asset to move because he would be able to opt out and save a team money.

[HornetJail]

^ No, that's not allowed. We can only trade hendo after he opts in

[BlackOutBuzz]

Quick question - can Hendo be traded before he decides whether to opt in or not, or is there some rule that you can't trade a player if he is in limbo on a player option?

Technically Hendo and Al's contracts have expired and they are basically FAs, at least until (if) they opt in. They are in sort of in limbo until the start of free agency, neither on the team nor completely free agents.

It's kind of a gray area for me to be honest. In theory, we could renegotiate with Hendo to change his player option to a one-year deal or longer (perhaps with a trade kicker) and then trade him. Something similar happened with the Chris Paul trade, however Paul was still under contract for another season before his option. With Hendo, we technically don't hold him under contract right now, at least until he opts in. So by that rationale we'd be negotiating with a FA, which obviously wouldn't be permissible.

While options generally aren't made official until right before FA, another theoretical idea would be if Hendo opted in early and allowed for the trade. I don't see any reason why a player couldn't opt in prior to the deadline, but I'm assuming there's more to it as this never happens.

Regardless, he can't be traded with a pending option (as it is now) or a declined option, and he may not be able to opt in until right before FA. So, we're probably not able to move him on draft night.

[LofJ]

Lance, Marvin, and Roberts' contracts add up to $18 million. If we need to match contracts to get a trade done on draft night we still have good flexibility to do so, even without being able to trade Henderson or Jefferson.

[Elden Payton]

If Al opts in I'd do this deal.

Al+Marvin+Roberts for Johnson.

I'd consider doing this deal as much as I love Cody.

Stephenson+Zeller for West+S.Hill+#11

[BeesWax]

If Al opts in I'd do this deal.

Al+Marvin+Roberts for Johnson.

I'd consider doing this deal as much as I love Cody.

Stephenson+Zeller for West+S.Hill+#11

I would do both of those. Not sure Indiana would do the second one.

[Elden Payton]

If Al opts in I'd do this deal.

Al+Marvin+Roberts for Johnson.

I'd consider doing this deal as much as I love Cody.

Stephenson+Zeller for West+S.Hill+#11

I would do both of those. Not sure Indiana would do the second one.

Kemba/Mo
Johnson/Booker/Daniels/Hairston
MKG/Hill/Hairston
West/Vonleh/vet
Biyombo/Turner/Vonleh/vet

[JDR720]

would anyone consider trading Bismack to Atlanta? i think they would overpay for him since he is exactly what they need

[BeesWax]

would anyone consider trading Bismack to Atlanta? i think they would overpay for him since he is exactly what they need

Would have to be a sign and trade and I am not sure I would take it but it is hard to say no until we saw an offer. I do not think we have anyone I would not trade if I was offered the right package. It would take a lot to get MKG or Vonleh for me but I would not say untouchable because there are players I would trade them for.

[HornetJail]

would anyone consider trading Bismack to Atlanta? i think they would overpay for him since he is exactly what they need

Yeah if we got a reasonably paid DeMarre Carroll back. Otherwise, no, nothing on their bench is remotely interesting and we need a starting center not named Al Jefferson after next season.

[LofJ]

Would anyone here be interested in signing Kobe next offseason if he's content to be a veteran role player? I know he's said before that he'd never do that, but given how much he loves the game think he'll go back on that stance. If he does I know you're probably thinking there are several other teams he'd rather sign with (i.e. the Knicks, Warriors, etc.), but I wouldn't be so quick to write off the possibility, especially if we have a bounce back season this year.

He's been close with MJ for a long time. And also taking into account the fact that he believes that we slighted him with the Divac trade I think he'd enjoy the reversal and thought of finishing his career where it initially started playing for his idol. It will have some attraction, but I'm not sure it will be enough to get him to sign with us. It's worth a shot in my opinion if he's willing to limit his role.

[Braggins]

Would anyone here be interested in signing Kobe next offseason if he's content be a veteran role player? I know he's said before that he'd never do that, but given how much he loves the game think he'll go back on that stance. If he does I know you're probably thinking there are several other teams he'd rather sign with (i.e. the Knicks, Warriors, etc.), but I wouldn't be so quick to write off the possibility, especially if we have a bounce back season this year.

He's been close with MJ for a long time. And also taking into account the fact that he believes that we slighted him with the Divac trade I think he'd enjoy the reversal and thought of finishing his career where it initially started playing for his idol. It will have some attraction, but I'm not sure it will be enough to get him to sign with us. It's worth a shot in my opinion if he's willing to limit his role.

Absolutely not.

[HornetJail]

Hell no. If for no other reason, I would hate hate hate the Kobe dick-riders. Also, he's just not that good any more and has way too big an ego to settle as a role player on a team other than the glorious Lakers.

[Rusted]

Would anyone here be interested in signing Kobe next offseason if he's content to be a veteran role player? I know he's said before that he'd never do that, but given how much he loves the game think he'll go back on that stance. If he does I know you're probably thinking there are several other teams he'd rather sign with (i.e. the Knicks, Warriors, etc.), but I wouldn't be so quick to write off the possibility, especially if we have a bounce back season this year.

He's been close with MJ for a long time. And also taking into account the fact that he believes that we slighted him with the Divac trade I think he'd enjoy the reversal and thought of finishing his career where it initially started playing for his idol. It will have some attraction, but I'm not sure it will be enough to get him to sign with us. It's worth a shot in my opinion if he's willing to limit his role.

Sure... he's exactly what we need, another (very) ball-dominant (very) low efficiency shooting guard...

[Braggins]

Marvin + 9th pick + future first for Frye + 5th pick

Any chance Orlando would do that?

We would likely have our pick of Winslow/Henzonja at 5. Frye's contract sucks but we are desperate enough for shooting and good enough at defense and rebounding that he actually seems like he could be more useful than Marv.

[LofJ]

Marvin + 9th pick + future first for Frye + 5th pick

Any chance Orlando would do that?

We would likely have our pick of Winslow/Henzonja at 5. Frye's contract sucks but we are desperate enough for shooting and good enough at defense and rebounding that he actually seems like he could be more useful than Marv.

If we think Hezonja is the real deal then I would absolutely do this trade. 2 more years of Frye's contract would be a bummer, but with the cap increase it's not a deal breaker.

I think Orlando would go for it too if they really want Turner or WCS/Porzingis drop to 9. It would enable them to take their guy without reaching and pick up an asset and some flexibility in the process. It's a win win trade.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Frye's contract is rare in that it actually declines over time, most contracts increase each year. How about Zeller + 9 for Frye + 5 (reuniting Cody and Oladipo)? Not sure they'd go for it though.

[Braggins]

It doesn't go down much though. Do you think Orlando would rather have Zeller or a future 1st? I think I'd rather give up the 1st to keep our young big rotation together unless there were different pieces coming back. If we fill our hole at SG then I feel like missing out a mid first round pick isn't going to hurt us much. We have plenty of cap after next season and we already have plenty of youth on this team.

Kemba/Mo/Roberts
Hezonja/Lance/Daniels
MKG/Hairston
Zeller/Vonleh/Frye
Al/Biz

[yosemiteben]

I'd be down with Marv + 9 + decent protection 1st for Frye + 5th but I doubt Orlando would.