FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

[mpharris36]

Lakers are up for trading the number 2 pick for a veteran, who could help them win now.

“If you came across something that made your team better quicker, it would probably be a veteran, then that’s something you would consider,” Kupchak said, “but there’s something to be said for having the No. 2 pick in terms of building going forward.”

Get 'er done Phil!!!

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Melo for #2 would be a dream come true.

Jahlil and Mudiay come on down my god

so we get to enjoy another 15 win season?

[GONYK]

Lakers are up for trading the number 2 pick for a veteran, who could help them win now.



Get 'er done Phil!!!

viewtopic.php?f=415&t=1389641&p=43743689#p43743689

Melo for #2 would be a dream come true.

Jahlil and Mudiay come on down my god

so we get to enjoy another 15 win season?

Without a pick

[beasonu]

Lakers are up for trading the number 2 pick for a veteran, who could help them win now.



Get 'er done Phil!!!

viewtopic.php?f=415&t=1389641&p=43743689#p43743689

Melo for #2 would be a dream come true.

Jahlil and Mudiay come on down my god

so we get to enjoy another 15 win season?

Jahlil, Mudiay, 2 potential max's with a lot more FA signing room still and potentially more from the lakers in that deal. 15 win season?


here comes the "who's going to come here post" next. well who's going to come here wanting to play for selfish melo?


melo for #2 would change the franchise and finally put it in the right direction. I'm tired of arguing with idiots on here. ill just wait till the draft.

[mpharris36]

Jahlil, Mudiay, 2 potential max's with a lot more FA signing room still and potentially more from the lakers in that deal. 15 win season?


here comes the "who's going to come here post" next. well who's going to come here wanting to play for selfish melo?


melo for #2 would change the franchise and finally put it in the right direction

no FA is going to come play with 2 rookies. The max spots will mean nothing when we can't recruit anyone.

Your going to be picking from the same pool of players. Monroe, and then overpaying guys like Wes Matthews or Danny Green even more.

Your the only idiot thinking that opening up 2 max spots means we are getting Jimmy Butler and LaMarcus Aldridge.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

Melo for #2 would be a dream come true.

Jahlil and Mudiay come on down my god

so we get to enjoy another 15 win season?

Jahlil, Mudiay, 2 potential max's with a lot more FA signing room still and potentially more from the lakers in that deal. 15 win season?


here comes the "who's going to come here post" next. well who's going to come here wanting to play for selfish melo?


melo for #2 would change the franchise and finally put it in the right direction

Getting Jahlil and Mudiay in the same draft is worth sucking next season without a pick. We'd get 2 of the top 4 players in 1 draft on rookie contracts, and we could finally do a true rebuild...I doubt this ever happens tho

[beasonu]

Jahlil, Mudiay, 2 potential max's with a lot more FA signing room still and potentially more from the lakers in that deal. 15 win season?


here comes the "who's going to come here post" next. well who's going to come here wanting to play for selfish melo?


melo for #2 would change the franchise and finally put it in the right direction

no FA is going to come play with 2 rookies. The max spots will mean nothing when we can't recruit anyone.

Your going to be picking from the same pool of players. Monroe, and then overpaying guys like Wes Matthews or Danny Green even more.

Your the only idiot thinking that opening up 2 max spots means we are getting Jimmy Butler and LaMarcus Aldridge.

how did i know this was going to be the pathetic argument in return?

[Knicksfan1992]

Kind of interesting to hear that the Bulls might be willing to absorb the financial hit of letting Thibodeau go. Could make them less willing to pay the luxury tax. It might not effect them matching Butler because I don't think they could absorb the PR blow that would bring from their fans. But, it could make them more willing to deal guys like Noah, Gibson,Dunleavy, and Pau to avoid paying the tax. Should be something to explore with our trade exceptions and 2nd rounders.

Side note= Anybody proposing getting rid of Melo in here is wasting everyone's time. It's not happening. get it out of your head and I'm sick of reading garbage proposals for our star player.

[Jeff Van Gully]

You guys both make excellent points, I can only counter with... times change and go over the reasons I listed above. I think his time in NY may have changed his outlook, and I think Kobe's time in LA may have given him a new perspective. Both are at different places in their career now.

But these are just my opinions.

Perhaps, but I don't think, if that change in perspective is coming, it will take root before the draft.

I also don't think Phil has any interest in a complete teardown without a star, and that is as much of an obstacle as Melo's NTC.

if this draft day pipe dream came true, we'd have "ah bag ah money," as we say in jamaica.

someone would bite.

[GONYK]

You guys both make excellent points, I can only counter with... times change and go over the reasons I listed above. I think his time in NY may have changed his outlook, and I think Kobe's time in LA may have given him a new perspective. Both are at different places in their career now.

But these are just my opinions.

Perhaps, but I don't think, if that change in perspective is coming, it will take root before the draft.

I also don't think Phil has any interest in a complete teardown without a star, and that is as much of an obstacle as Melo's NTC.

if this draft day pipe dream came true, we'd have "ah bag ah money," as we say in jamaica.

someone would bite.

Nobody who wasn't going to bite with Melo

It would be the same crop...Monroe, Harris, Green, etc...

[Thorn]

Melo for #2 would be a dream come true.

Jahlil and Mudiay come on down my god

so we get to enjoy another 15 win season?

Without a pick

We could have a pick by then...

[newyorker4ever]

Trade Melo for #2, draft Towns and Mudiay and still having cap space to try to sign guys in 2016 sounds like a good plan to me.

Like I said I like Melo but he's not going to win here we are not going to be able to get him the 2nd star and help he needs, I don't see LMA or Gasol coming here I hope they do but I dont see it.

Ok so you're saying it's Gasol or LMA or bust?? If we don't get any of the top guys then we bring in the right pieces to play with Melo and we make a run to the playoffs in 2016 and then we'll get a top guy in the 2016 free agency. It's not this year or bust people. You don't build a contending team in one off season so don't rush it.

[ag3]

Melo is NOT going to LA
He's NOT leaving the Knicks
He wants to do it here and he will if all goes well

Hows he going to do it here if we don't land him any help? You think LMA or Gasol are coming here? I wish they do but reality is setting in Knicks are so bad that even us having a star in Melo isn't enough to attract big free agents anymore.

You don't know what these players have been talking about and who will team up.
With the Cap exploding in 2016, a lot of the 2015 free agents will sign 1yr. "Lebron" type opt out deals. Meaning, the Knicks most certainly have a chance.

You can sit 2 of the big free agents together with Phil, Carmelo and the new draft pick and propose a super team.
Let's say Gasol and Aldridge.

Mudiay/Galloway
Unknown/THJR
Melo
Aldridge
Gasol

That team with a couple veterans, would be a perennial contender for 3-4 years.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

This a lineup that I have come up with that is realistic, feasible, and can get us to the playoffs so that Denver doesn't get a lottery pick

Cheap rebounding/defending C
Melo
Carroll
Green
Mudiay

This lineup has good 3 point shooting in Melo, Carroll, and Green so there would be plenty of room for Melo and Mudiay to operate in. It also has good rebounding at every position except maybe the PF position with Melo. Also, this lineup has high IQ players and perimeter defenders. The Center would just be a stop gap until we can afford a better one with the exploding cap.
We don't have to go all in this summer and blow all of our cap space. We need to play this smart so we don't end up with another Amare on our books.

[And100]

melo for #2 would change the franchise and finally put it in the right direction.

No, it'd be the team in A direction. You can strike out in the lottery too. Having multiplelottery selections in a compacted time frame has bred success for some teams and failures for others.

And I wouldn't even rate the odd of succeeding any better than failing.

YOU may want to see a young, lottery team for 3 years or more and that's a perfectly valid personal preference. And a personal preference should be enough. There's really no reason for you to argue against facts and continue to maintain the success rate is high.

[And100]

so we get to enjoy another 15 win season?

Without a pick

We could have a pick by then...

"A" pick is different than the Knicks pick. They aren't getting that back.

15 win season is one thing if you get the lottery balls to go with it. It's quite another when you have a playoff team's pick.

[Thorn]

Without a pick

We could have a pick by then...

"A" pick is different than the Knicks pick. They aren't getting that back.

15 win season is one thing if you get the lottery balls to go with it. It's quite another when you have a playoff team's pick.

Well obviously, thing is though I am okay losing another season to rebuild properly and we are all speculating we are not sure what pick we would have, lottery, our own pick back, another random pick from a contender. We don't know.

Either way ID o not much care I would rather endure another losing season with light at the end of the tunnel than continue on this treadmill we have been on for 12 years going nowhere... fast.

[GONYK]

We could have a pick by then...

"A" pick is different than the Knicks pick. They aren't getting that back.

15 win season is one thing if you get the lottery balls to go with it. It's quite another when you have a playoff team's pick.

Well obviously, thing is though I am okay losing another season to rebuild properly and we are all speculating we are not sure what pick we would have, lottery, our own pick back, another random pick from a contender. We don't know.

Either way ID o not much care I would rather endure another losing season with light at the end of the tunnel than continue on this treadmill we have been on for 12 years going nowhere... fast.

You're basically advocating that we become a worse version of the Sixers, which I just can't see happening.

[And100]

We could have a pick by then...

"A" pick is different than the Knicks pick. They aren't getting that back.

15 win season is one thing if you get the lottery balls to go with it. It's quite another when you have a playoff team's pick.

Well obviously, thing is though I am okay losing another season to rebuild properly and we are all speculating we are not sure what pick we would have, lottery, our own pick back, another random pick from a contender. We don't know.

Either way ID o not much care I would rather endure another losing season with light at the end of the tunnel than continue on this treadmill we have been on for 12 years going nowhere... fast.

Thorn, the KNicks aren't getting their pick back. Considering what happened to Toronto this year, they're holding onto it for dear life. Not even mentioning the Denver condition on the pick.

But you make it sound like the Knicks haven't picked in the draft for the last "12 years".

Since 2003 they've had 4 top 10 picks and 6 other first round picks.

Having a first round pick is a guarantee of nothing. And the actually order of the pick is very important as well.

[Esq-4]

I am not advocating trading Melo for the 2nd, and whatever the rest of the trade would need to be. Interesting to talk about though because it makes some sense for everyone. Hate to admit it. I also think it never happens. Ironically though it could be BOS 2.0 and even potentially include Rondo. If they are creative enough, they could add Melo and/or Rondo and/or Love with the cap space, Randle and 2nd pick. Or it could be that failed Laker team with Malone and Payton with Kobe's injury/age Rondo's decline etc.

In that scenario, the smart thing to do would probably be to use cap space for trades to either get young players attached to big contracts or for picks.

Again, never see it happen and don't advocate it.

As for us being likely to get guys on 1 year deals, I disagree. Why wouldn't those guys just stay at home on what are better tesms? Even Love might be better off not opting out. Other than out of desperation, does he look like a max player? Hang in CLE, ride LBJ to a ring, prove yourself and take it from there. All the while getting a bigger deal wherever the next season. Just hope CLE doesn't trade you, unless to a place you want to go.

[Bklyn&company]

Again why is everyone assuming if we draft Mudiay he is starting...SMH... you all must really think this is NBA2K.. LOL... Kid is not starting in front of LG or Shved... but he would be a good change of pace off the bench..

FYI... Phil is not sign Monroe to a max contact...