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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#3381 » by god shammgod » Thu May 28, 2015 11:20 pm

we're gonna lose of course but wade & melo vs lebron wil be fun
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#3382 » by dakomish23 » Thu May 28, 2015 11:21 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:after signing wade they'll probably take gasol off the bulls hands for timmy, early and a 2nd rounder

wcs
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melo
wade
gallo

i wonder if this is how besart feels when he posts ?


if they can get Pau for that kind of a deal. Then why not just use the cap space to sign his brother. If we get Pau. I would 100% believe Marc would sign to play with his big brother.

then just pick Mudiay with the 4th pick.

Mudiay
Galloway
melo
Gasol
Gasol

that would be better


Where do I sign? That team would be a beautiful machine. Till Pau breaks. And we could still sign another good player if Calderon is moved.

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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#3383 » by god shammgod » Thu May 28, 2015 11:22 pm

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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#3384 » by Rasho Brezec » Thu May 28, 2015 11:24 pm

That Toney Douglas crazy is kicking back in. I'm out.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#3385 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu May 28, 2015 11:24 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
you would be upset with a

Mudiay/Calderon
Galloway
Melo
Gasol
Gasol

lineup? seriously?


- Calderon is a bum that will keep getting injured
- a team that starts Galloway is not a playoff team
- Pau is too slow to play PF and too fragile to make it through a season playing starter minutes

That team is 8th seed at best. And still not a single leader.


that team gets at a top 4 seed easily in my opinion. Pau and Marc were got damn all-stars last year and calderon as a backup guard is not a problem at all.

Pau played PF this year with Noah at Center and did just fine.

I would go as far to say that team becomes the #2 team right behind the cavs.

that team has great perimeter defense. Marc is arguably the best defensive center. The post up game would be ridiculous and calderon and gasol are good leaders and winners. Pau is a winner that knows the triangle perfectly!

Melo would be the closer which you need. I think your out of your mind if you think that team is an 8th seed at best. thats a 50 win team easily in the east.


I agree that we would be a top 4 team, but I also think that Pau is NOT a 4. He played 2/3 of his minutes last year at C ( http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... lpa01.html ) and when he was playing PF he was getting beat off the dribble. The Bulls were able to help mitigate his **** defense because of the great perimeter defense they played (having Noah contain absolutely everything, everywhere on the court was great; Rose was a very good defender; Butler was Butler; and Dunleavy was even solid for them).

The team you constructed has one very good perimeter defender (Galloway), an average to above average defender (Melo), an elite defender (Gasol - he's a different kind of defender though than Noah...which isn't necessarily a good thing, if you're trying to play the Gasols together), a question mark with potential to be a very good defender (Mudiay), one of the worst defenders in the league (Calderon), and then question marks for the rest of the roster. We'd need an athletic 4 as a backup to start and another very good to great perimeter defender if we wanted to be a contending team in the future.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#3386 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu May 28, 2015 11:26 pm

I wonder if Wade would actually leave Miami...
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Post#3387 » by Capn'O » Thu May 28, 2015 11:26 pm

god shammgod wrote:after signing wade they'll probably take gasol off the bulls hands for timmy, early and a 2nd rounder

wcs
gasol
melo
wade
gallo

i wonder if this is how besart feels when he posts ?


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Post#3388 » by riter » Thu May 28, 2015 11:28 pm

god shammgod wrote:don't worry rasho, we're getting wade. not marc gasol.

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Post#3389 » by Capn'O » Thu May 28, 2015 11:30 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:I wonder if Wade would actually leave Miami...


Sure he would. Especially for more money.
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Post#3390 » by Capn'O » Thu May 28, 2015 11:31 pm

Meh. I hope they keep the pick. But this one, I could really see happening. Wade and Melo are tight and at least on paper complement each other.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#3391 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu May 28, 2015 11:32 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:I wonder if Wade would actually leave Miami...


Sure he would. Especially for more money.


I guess so...but, it would be weird seeing him play for another team - like MJ playing for the Wizards. Same goes for Haslem, if he's ever traded / signs with another team.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#3392 » by god shammgod » Thu May 28, 2015 11:32 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:I wonder if Wade would actually leave Miami...


he'll leave if they don't pay him.

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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#3393 » by mpharris36 » Thu May 28, 2015 11:32 pm

we would have about 3 million extra. Trading hardaway and lottery protected 2018 would minus 6 million off our cap. That would leave 21 million. Than Marc's 18.5 minus the cap hold would leave 3 million for a vet 4 man.

Than you would have a the room exception to also add another veteran piece.

Plus you would have young athletic guys like Mudiay, Thanasis, and Early which you would hope to become better defenders and help out as well.

Also Knickstape regarding Pau guarding 4's. While he will struggle from time to time I think it would be manageable because Pau isn't a 35 minute a night guy and could still play almost half of his minutes at the 5 spelling Marc.

Also advantage which no one seems to talk about is the knicks clear advantage. Teams use to put there best defender on Pau...because Noah was no threat to score. How would teams defend Marc and Pau down low with there back to the basket games and passing abilities. With shooters like Calderon and Melo on the perimeter?

Not only would that team win the division. Toronto, Nets, and Celtics would not even come close to the talent of that team. That team would have a chance to retool in a year as well. You could move calderon and pau (opt out) and free up another max spot) the following year for Durant if you wanted.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#3394 » by god shammgod » Thu May 28, 2015 11:33 pm

there's no injury risk with marc gasol, we can't get him. wade is all ours.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#3395 » by Capn'O » Thu May 28, 2015 11:35 pm

god shammgod wrote:there's no injury risk with marc gasol, we can't get him. wade is all ours.


You're straight recruiting for HW now...
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#3396 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu May 28, 2015 11:36 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:I wonder if Wade would actually leave Miami...


he'll leave if they don't pay him.

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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#3397 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu May 28, 2015 11:39 pm

mpharris36 wrote:we would have about 3 million extra. Trading hardaway and lottery protected 2018 would minus 6 million off our cap. That would leave 21 million. Than Marc's 18.5 minus the cap hold would leave 3 million for a vet 4 man.

Than you would have a the room exception to also add another veteran piece.

Plus you would have young athletic guys like Mudiay, Thanasis, and Early which you would hope to become better defenders and help out as well.

Also Knickstape regarding Pau guarding 4's. While he will struggle from time to time I think it would be manageable because Pau isn't a 35 minute a night guy and could still play almost half of his minutes at the 5 spelling Marc.

Also advantage which no one seems to talk about is the knicks clear advantage. Teams use to put there best defender on Pau...because Noah was no threat to score. How would teams defend Marc and Pau down low with there back to the basket games and passing abilities. With shooters like Calderon and Melo on the perimeter?

Not only would that team win the division. Toronto, Nets, and Celtics would not even come close to the talent of that team. That team would have a chance to retool in a year as well. You could move calderon and pau (opt out) and free up another max spot) the following year for Durant if you wanted.


Pau isn't only bad at defending 4s, he's a bad defender in general. He's lost a huge amount of quickness since his Lakers days. We would need an athletic 4 to play next to him whenever he's on the court basically (except when he's with Marc because we can't play 6 on 5).

Yeah, we'd be a good scoring team...but I still think the defense is a huge question mark

I said we would be top 4, but going further than that with the lineup you suggested is going to be difficult.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#3398 » by riter » Thu May 28, 2015 11:40 pm

Calderon has to go. Knicks have to get to 37mil cap room.
give LMA his one year 18mil--with a 5year 168mil contract promise
give Wade his 3yr 19mil

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LMA
Melo

We need Wade for only the second half and playoffs.
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#3399 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu May 28, 2015 11:51 pm

imagine a big 3 of lma melo wade
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Re: FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread (14'-15') 

Post#3400 » by god shammgod » Thu May 28, 2015 11:54 pm

so....the above photo is from the mayweather fight

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