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Post#901 » by Dr Spaceman » Sun May 31, 2015 1:29 am

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Dr Spaceman wrote:Gentry to be the next NO coach. Thoughts? He's clearly a talented offensive mind, and from accounts was exactly the type of personality they were looking for. Davis LOVED Monty, and it seems like Gentry is the type of guy who can foster a similar bond. Still curious to see where they go for assistants because their defense was 100% of their problem.

Also seems likely now that Thibs will take a year off from coaching. Wait for another spot on a playoff roster of something close.

I'm not sure. I kinda like it, but at the same time, he was a HC before and not very good. Some guys are just cut to be assistants and I wonder if he's one. That roster is a strange mishmash of players outside AD, and I don't know its ceiling. He could be great though too.


yeah he's had a poor head coaching record to this point, although I thought he was very good in Phoenix, especially considering he was brought back to basically be the D'Antoni consolation prize. I think the feeling is his time under Doc and on Kerr's staff will give him some perspective. Plus I think his offensive clout has grown a great deal.

Still, though, NOP was actually quite good offensively, it was the defense we were worried about. Weird fit, but again I feel like he's got a great personality for Davis, and maybe they aren't ready to be a serious team yet.
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Post#902 » by RSCD3_ » Sun May 31, 2015 1:37 am

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Dr Spaceman wrote:Gentry to be the next NO coach. Thoughts? He's clearly a talented offensive mind, and from accounts was exactly the type of personality they were looking for. Davis LOVED Monty, and it seems like Gentry is the type of guy who can foster a similar bond. Still curious to see where they go for assistants because their defense was 100% of their problem.

Also seems likely now that Thibs will take a year off from coaching. Wait for another spot on a playoff roster of something close.

I'm not sure. I kinda like it, but at the same time, he was a HC before and not very good. Some guys are just cut to be assistants and I wonder if he's one. That roster is a strange mishmash of players outside AD, and I don't know its ceiling. He could be great though too.


yeah he's had a poor head coaching record to this point, although I thought he was very good in Phoenix, especially considering he was brought back to basically be the D'Antoni consolation prize. I think the feeling is his time under Doc and on Kerr's staff will give him some perspective. Plus I think his offensive clout has grown a great deal.

Still, though, NOP was actually quite good offensively, it was the defense we were worried about. Weird fit, but again I feel like he's got a great personality for Davis, and maybe they aren't ready to be a serious team yet.


I wonder what assistants he could hire, sure there's gonna be a lot of defense first assistant coaches who would love to be build a scheme around Anthony Davis.
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Re: PC Board OT thread 

Post#903 » by sp6r=underrated » Sun May 31, 2015 1:44 am

Hopefully he doesn't break out that horrific zone defense he used in the 2010 WCF. That was one of the worse strategies that resulted in media praise during my years following the league.
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Post#904 » by Dr Spaceman » Sun May 31, 2015 2:51 pm

If anyone thinks quantum physics is cool:

http://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/experiment-confirms-quantum-theory-weirdness

Basically: An atom's behavior can be explained by both wave and particle theories until the decision is made about which to look for. Essentially, if you're looking for a wave, you find a wave and not a particle. If you're looking for a particle, you find a particle and not a wave. This is one of the biggest findings confirming quantum theory.

The strangest part of this whole experiment: the atom is observed after the "decision" to be a wave or particle is made. The implications of this are alarming, but essentially when an atom is observed it is saying "I'm a particle, and I've always been a particle" despite this being literally contradicted by previous trials of the experiment. For real-world intents and purposes this is analogous to a current event causing something in the past.
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Post#905 » by penbeast0 » Sun May 31, 2015 3:57 pm

I've always found that to be the strangest thing we ever looked at in physics.

The other weird one was that if you change the polarity of paired particles, the other particle also changes polarity instantaneously -- faster than the speed of light. It would seem faster-than-light communication could be based on this and if we ever find a way to create FTL travel, it will probably be related to this research.
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Post#906 » by lorak » Sun May 31, 2015 6:16 pm

penbeast0 wrote:I've always found that to be the strangest thing we ever looked at in physics.

The other weird one was that if you change the polarity of paired particles, the other particle also changes polarity instantaneously -- faster than the speed of light. It would seem faster-than-light communication could be based on this and if we ever find a way to create FTL travel, it will probably be related to this research.


That's common misunderstanding. Photons don't "communicate" the way we understand that word in our macroscopic world and thus faster than light communication for us - macroscopic creatures - is impossible.
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Post#907 » by penbeast0 » Sun May 31, 2015 8:12 pm

Okay, Im not in this field but if they react to something done to another proton, it would seem you might be able to manipulate that . . . even in only a binary fashion.
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Post#908 » by Doctor MJ » Sun May 31, 2015 9:29 pm

I'm really enjoying where this thread is taking us. I've always felt the PC board had its own community, and that it was the best, but for some reason we never had an OT thread.

Curious of Dr. Spaceman and others: Do we have folks with physics backgrounds here? Or if not that, what other science-y backgrounds are there?
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Post#909 » by bondom34 » Sun May 31, 2015 9:31 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:I'm really enjoying where this thread is taking us. I've always felt the PC board had its own community, and that it was the best, but for some reason we never had an OT thread.

Curious of Dr. Spaceman and others: Do we have folks with physics backgrounds here? Or if not that, what other science-y backgrounds are there?

Not physics (never could get into it), but biology, grad degree in forensic science, worked at Quantico for a couple years. Now not in forensics but still work at a desk job in a lab back near home.
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Post#910 » by lorak » Sun May 31, 2015 9:40 pm

penbeast0 wrote:Okay, Im not in this field but if they react to something done to another proton, it would seem you might be able to manipulate that . . . even in only a binary fashion.


But we can't (yet ;)). The nature of that relation between photons doesn't allow us to sent information.
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Post#911 » by Doctor MJ » Sun May 31, 2015 9:48 pm

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Dr Spaceman wrote:Gentry to be the next NO coach. Thoughts? He's clearly a talented offensive mind, and from accounts was exactly the type of personality they were looking for. Davis LOVED Monty, and it seems like Gentry is the type of guy who can foster a similar bond. Still curious to see where they go for assistants because their defense was 100% of their problem.

Also seems likely now that Thibs will take a year off from coaching. Wait for another spot on a playoff roster of something close.

I'm not sure. I kinda like it, but at the same time, he was a HC before and not very good. Some guys are just cut to be assistants and I wonder if he's one. That roster is a strange mishmash of players outside AD, and I don't know its ceiling. He could be great though too.


yeah he's had a poor head coaching record to this point, although I thought he was very good in Phoenix, especially considering he was brought back to basically be the D'Antoni consolation prize. I think the feeling is his time under Doc and on Kerr's staff will give him some perspective. Plus I think his offensive clout has grown a great deal.

Still, though, NOP was actually quite good offensively, it was the defense we were worried about. Weird fit, but again I feel like he's got a great personality for Davis, and maybe they aren't ready to be a serious team yet.


My thought on Gentry is that he's in the midst of something similar to the delayed "promotion" that Doc Rivers received as a result of the Big 3 in Boston.

When Boston got better, the reaction at first was simply to dismiss Doc as a guy getting lucky because he had the better players and the smart assistant, but over time people came to see Doc as one of the few guys in the league with a history of functioning well in all seasons and worth getting excited about.

When Gentry had some success in Phoenix, the immediate reaction was that it was just him going back to D'Antoni ball despite the fact that some major changes had occurred. The relatively limited success of the Suns meant that there was a limit to how much people would pay attention to Gentry, and when he was let go, people weren't up in arms. But when he started getting gigs as "offensive guru", people paid attention. The Clipper experiment was not definitive enough to cause huge excitement, but it was still a positive. The Warrior experiment though was a resounding smash that basically permanently established Gentry as an offensive guru in multiple situations - which makes him frankly virtually unique. While everyone respects D'Antoni's offensive brain, he has no track record of being able to come into any situation and make it work, only a blueprint he came up with that revolutionized the league once.

It's entirely possible this new narrative is too flattering for Gentry, but I think it's important to understand someone deserves a lot of credit for the offensive changes Golden State has made, and that if the answer is really that Kerr came up with everything, then it's strange to me why Kerr would have bothered hiring Gentry in the first place given that Kerr was GM when Gentry worked in Phoenix. As such, to the extent "offensive guru" is actually a think in the NBA, Gentry has as good of a claim on it as basically anyone.

And there's no doubt that as good as the Pelican offense is, it could get considerably better, so in that sense the move makes sense.

I'm with everyone else though: The defense can get A LOT better, so it's odd the Pelicans didn't go for a defensive guy. Frankly, it was the defense that made me say that Monty had to go. Monty had plenty of positives working for him, but clearly he was unable to make the team defensively sound. Maybe no one else could either, but that seems unlikely, and so I felt like after all this time, a change was easily worth the risk. If, somehow, defense was not a major part of the interview process then, that's shocking, and a sign of glaring incompetence.

My guess as to what happened is that the Pellie FO had a very serious consideration about Thibs, and decided the cons outweighed the pros. And this to me is pretty shocking also, but only because it confirms some of the rumors flying about about how problematic Thibs as seen in terms of his softer skills. Once you've decided that Thibs is not your guy - or I suppose at the very least he'd have to interview for the position - then you open it up to other guys, and Gentry has the stature that it makes sense for him to be on every short list out there. Hopefully what Gentry said is some combination of "here are your offensive problems right now, and here are your defensive. You've also got the greatest talent in the game on your team right now, and he needs to keep growing here and here, but we also need to make sure we keep bringing him along gradually, which Monty did a good job of. You're going to need to address X, Y, and Z. I can spearhead X completely, and Y & Z partially, here are some guys I've worked with who I would bring in to help me with them."
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Post#912 » by kingkirk » Mon Jun 1, 2015 12:20 am

Whenever someone talks about science, I feel dumb. You have all made me feel dumb. I hope you're all happy with yourselves.
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Post#913 » by penbeast0 » Mon Jun 1, 2015 2:02 am

Mark, you could try changing your picture to Einstein or Feynman or something. That might help.

And yeah, lorak, I agree we can't do it yet (nor do we need to as we have not pursued a strong move into space where this form of communication would be more valuable). But it was the first thing that popped into my head when I read about it.
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Post#914 » by PaulieWal » Mon Jun 1, 2015 2:36 am

Mark K wrote:Whenever someone talks about science, I feel dumb. You have all made me feel dumb. I hope you're all happy with yourselves.


You tell 'em. How would they like it if we started talking about whatever we do/went to school for?
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Post#915 » by kingkirk » Mon Jun 1, 2015 2:52 am

penbeast0 wrote:Mark, you could try changing your picture to Einstein or Feynman or something. That might help.


Van Damme is street smart. Plus, this image is from Universal Solider, a documentary about how science can revive dead soldiers and turn them into super soldiers. I think it's apt for this discussion.


PaulieWal wrote:You tell 'em. How would they like it if we started talking about whatever we do/went to school for?


How would they like it? They'd probably be bored as **** and would start talking about algorithms or something instead.
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Post#916 » by tsherkin » Mon Jun 1, 2015 3:08 am

I could start talking EMS, Mark.., :D
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Post#917 » by PaulieWal » Mon Jun 1, 2015 3:09 am

tsherkin wrote:I could start talking EMS, Mark.., :D


That would probably be more interesting than all this atom talk :wink:. I am sure you have your fair share of interesting stories on the job lol.
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Post#918 » by PaulieWal » Mon Jun 1, 2015 3:15 am

Mark K wrote:
penbeast0 wrote:Mark, you could try changing your picture to Einstein or Feynman or something. That might help.


Van Damme is street smart. Plus, this image is from Universal Solider, a documentary about how science can revive dead soldiers and turn them into super soldiers. I think it's apt for this discussion.


PaulieWal wrote:You tell 'em. How would they like it if we started talking about whatever we do/went to school for?


How would they like it? They'd probably be bored as **** and would start talking about algorithms or something instead.


Sorry to say but Van Damme is past his prime. He's still in shape and could kick my ass but as an actor he's peaked :lol:.

As for the second point sooner or later I am going to start flooding this thread with some finance and marketing talk.
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Post#919 » by tsherkin » Mon Jun 1, 2015 3:15 am

Ya but I bet a lot of people read this board while eating, and my stories are more... Hmmm.

Catherine O'Hara would call them "dessert talk."

I've longer forgotten what disturbs normal people, lol.
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Post#920 » by kingkirk » Mon Jun 1, 2015 3:56 am

tsherkin wrote:I could start talking EMS, Mark.., :D


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