#27 #34 Draft Picks Discussion

[DEEP3CL]

So Towns won't be doing any workouts, just interviews with the wolves and lakers. He has been working out here in LA with Don McLean who has this to say:

http://zagsblog.com/articles/towns-will-interview-with-wolves-lakers-wont-do-workouts/

"“I’ve been doing this for 11 or 12 years pre-draft,” MacLean, the leading scorer in Pac-12 and UCLA history, previously told SNY.tv. “Because I had a lot of top 10 picks and a lot of really good players, I’m not really impressed or blown away. I had Towns all last week and I was blown away. Blown away.

“A kid that big but shoots it that well but handles it that well and understands the game, that’s coachable, that wants to get better, wants to be great, I was blown away by him last week.

“Am I a little biased? I’ve known Jahlil because I’ve done Adidas nations forever. Jahlil’s a great kid and a great player but I just think he doesn’t have as much to his game as Karl has.”

If Okafor comes here and works out, I want Okafor. There's something I find really shady about a potential #1 pick not wanting to work out with the first or second team drafting. Makes me question what he has inside him.

That would be like me going to an interview with my dream job but not wanting to show them any of my work.

Well it's obvious he's being told not to workout, but then again his agent is Leon Rose and controlling ass CAA. We all know that camp all the way from LA basically called the shots with the Knicks, they had so many CAA clients on that roster.

Once I saw his name attached to Towns...I already grew leery of him. Leon Rose is a SOB/dick agent, it was a reason LeBron got away from him.

[yitur]

What do you guys think about Christmas-Harvey-Hawkins-Alexander, prospects for the 2nd round that we could get by keeping our pick or buying another 2nd rounder.

I would think we would be too much like Denver, who actually went Too young. Yes, we need youth. We got some last year, we'll get some this year. But, no more than 2 please. Then go get a couple of good youngish but experienced vet free agents. Chandler and Carroll come to mind.

Too much youth can be as bad as too much age. You want balance in all things.

Yeah I agree. I don't want all of them to come. I think we should use 27 and 34 to move up and that would be enough for me, getting RHJ or Anderson. But if Lakers decide that because we get Clarkson we can do it again and this year, who do you guys think would be the best bet for that.

[iamworthy]

In my opinion towns not wanting to work out is more of a knock on the wolves. Clearly he can't say I'll work out for the Lakers and not the wolves. Maybe he wants to be a laker. I would feel a lot different if the Lakers had the first pick and he didn't want to work out for us. Both players are rumored to want to play for the Lakers, maybe it's true, maybe it's false. Not only that but apparently he's working out in los Angeles anyways. How hard is it to send a scout over there to watch him. I'd imagine CAA wants their client in LA.

[Danny Darko]

say what you want about the young core in Min, but no one, not a single person who isn't from Min directly would want to be there over here.

[LAKESHOW]

2 possible scenarios. He doesnt want to work out because he does not want selection to minny. But a 2nd scenario is, why work out? GUARANTEE he is goin 1st or 2nd. Let the Lakers and minny figure it out. Why BS and play the dog and pony act. You want him, make your selection.

[Luciferswings]

Scenario 3; the agents like controlling the process, and don't let their clients do anything that has any risk or increases the chances their client could end up worse off. Towns has nothing to gain by working out, he can lose something but he can't gain anything. Ergo he will not work out. Pretty standard practise for an agent.

[dipstick]

Scenario 3; the agents like controlling the process, and don't let their clients do anything that has any risk or increases the chances their client could end up worse off. Towns has nothing to gain by working out, he can lose something but he can't gain anything. Ergo he will not work out. Pretty standard practise for an agent.

I think the agents wouldn't be doing their jobs if they did allow him to work out. All risk and no gain.

Risk of dropping and risk of getting injured. It's not as if those workouts will make you a better player.

[Jajwanda]

The Lakers' goal for the 27 and the 34 should be to turn that into Justin Anderson and Delon Wright. If they can use Hill and their 3m in cash to move up that would be an almost perfect draft.

PG- Wright
SG- Clarkson
SF- Anderson
PF- Randle
C- Okafor

[TyCobb]

The Lakers' goal for the 27 and the 34 should be to turn that into Justin Anderson and Delon Wright. If they can use Hill and their 3m in cash to move up that would be an almost perfect draft.

PG- Wright
SG- Clarkson
SF- Anderson
PF- Randle
C- Okafor

Agreed. This is my dream draft.

[ALL HAIL]

^Yep.

Big man, swingman, combo/point guard.

[SilentScream]

How would our not having our first rounder next year come into play, though? Would we be expecting to shoot for a bottom three record to retain our pick, since that alone isn't enough to compete, or would gifting Philly a high draft pick not come into play? I suppose which pick they get doesn't really matter to us other than maybe the temptation to spite them as much as possible.

[LouMamba]

How would our not having our first rounder next year come into play, though? Would we be expecting to shoot for a bottom three record to retain our pick, since that alone isn't enough to compete, or would gifting Philly a high draft pick not come into play? I suppose which pick they get doesn't really matter to us other than maybe the temptation to spite them as much as possible.

Doubt we tank for a bottom 3 pick, Mitch did not want to tank in the beginning of the season for a Bottom 5 pick. Lakers wanting to tank for a bottom 3 pick is not only not the Lakers management style but it would also show that we don't have any faith in kobe's health. I fully expect Mitch to be as competitive as possible and if Kobe can play around 60 games at around 30 minutes a game, then that will a big plus.

[dipstick]

The Lakers' goal for the 27 and the 34 should be to turn that into Justin Anderson and Delon Wright. If they can use Hill and their 3m in cash to move up that would be an almost perfect draft.

PG- Wright
SG- Clarkson
SF- Anderson
PF- Randle
C- Okafor

Agreed. This is my dream draft.

Would be great. However, some draft boards have both players gone at 27. Would love to have a player with good D like Justin Anderson though. Hope he drops to us. I don't think Wright would be around for the 34th pick, so we could gamble for a high upside player for the 34th.

[oneseven]

I too think both will be gone at 27. May have to package them and move up three-five slots to get one, or for Rondae H-J but I think he'll be gone late teens. All three of these guys are top notch defenders in this draft.

[LApwnd]

The Lakers' goal for the 27 and the 34 should be to turn that into Justin Anderson and Delon Wright. If they can use Hill and their 3m in cash to move up that would be an almost perfect draft.

PG- Wright
SG- Clarkson
SF- Anderson
PF- Randle
C- Okafor

Agreed. This is my dream draft.

Would be great. However, some draft boards have both players gone at 27. Would love to have a player with good D like Justin Anderson though. Hope he drops to us. I don't think Wright would be around for the 34th pick, so we could gamble for a high upside player for the 34th.

Rashad Vaugh is sometimes projected there at 34th, youngest player in the draft and big time scorer. His negatives could be reigned in mostly bad shot selection (this is where having respectable Vets will come into play)

[CodyB_]

What do Lakers fans think of moving the Number 2 pick for someone like Nerlens Noel?

I'm high on him. While his per was only average this year, you can tell by watching him that he is going to be a Gobert level defender in a few years time. He is 7'0 with a massive standing reach and the agility of a guard. He also shows decent touch on his jumper out past 15 feet. When that improves he'll be a prototypical big man for the 'New Nba'.

After that, the Lakers focus on finding an offensive game changer like KD or Russ Westbrook and the others bits will come together. KD is close to maturity and once he is healthy again he is going to be a monster, I think the Lakers are in a position to put a championship team around him. Westbrook I think is fools gold.

[Goudelock]

What do Lakers fans think of moving the Number 2 pick for someone like Nerlens Noel?

I'm high on him. While his per was only average this year, you can tell by watching him that he is going to be a Gobert level defender in a few years time. He is 7'0 with a massive standing reach and the agility of a guard. He also shows decent touch on his jumper out past 15 feet. When that improves he'll be a prototypical big man for the 'New Nba'.

After that, the Lakers focus on finding an offensive game changer like KD or Russ Westbrook and the others bits will come together. KD is close to maturity and once he is healthy again he is going to be a monster, I think the Lakers are in a position to put a championship team around him. Westbrook I think is fools gold.

I'd think about it, and then realize that Okafor has the best post game since Tim Duncan and that you don't pass that up for an offensively-challenged big.

[BEazy]

Why do people think we're getting Okafor? Recently mock drafts have him going #1. Wolves love him for some reason, or should I say Flip is doing his old college buddy a favor by favoring his client Okafor. Plus I'd rather have Towns at #2 just because of his defensive potential alone.

[CodyB_]

What do Lakers fans think of moving the Number 2 pick for someone like Nerlens Noel?

I'm high on him. While his per was only average this year, you can tell by watching him that he is going to be a Gobert level defender in a few years time. He is 7'0 with a massive standing reach and the agility of a guard. He also shows decent touch on his jumper out past 15 feet. When that improves he'll be a prototypical big man for the 'New Nba'.

After that, the Lakers focus on finding an offensive game changer like KD or Russ Westbrook and the others bits will come together. KD is close to maturity and once he is healthy again he is going to be a monster, I think the Lakers are in a position to put a championship team around him. Westbrook I think is fools gold.

I'd think about it, and then realize that Okafor has the best post game since Tim Duncan and that you don't pass that up for an offensively-challenged big.

The NBA right now is officially favouring (by way of the rules) guard play. Post play has almost disappeared as a mainstay of any offense and you're starting to see guards get higher TS% than big men. Okafor is a great player, extremely gifted as a post operator but this NBA won't allow him to function as such. His lack of defense will make him a fringe +- player if he plays starters minutes. He will be the starting Centre on a treadmill team.

Someone like Nerlens Noel will play a similar role to Tyson Chandler or Andrew Bogut. Statistically nothing much to write home about, but absolute game changers. The thing is Noel, is going to better than either ever was. He has better athleticism, quicker hands and shows promise on his stroke.

Anyways, just a thought. The more I see of Okafor, however, the less I like. I think Towns will be much better.

[Mirjalovic]

Why do people think we're getting Okafor? Recently mock drafts have him going #1. Wolves love him for some reason, or should I say Flip is doing his old college buddy a favor by favoring his client Okafor. Plus I'd rather have Towns at #2 just because of his defensive potential alone.

you can't go wrong with the top 3, but i think Okafor will be a dominant force in the NBA, like DeMarcus Cousins, while a see Town will have Noah-like impact.