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Draft Thread: Who do you want with the 13th pick? Stanley Johnson and WCS added..change votes if you want

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Which three guys would you most like to draft if they are there at 13?

Kevon Looney
23
11%
Devin Booker
18
9%
Myles Turner
38
18%
Frank Kaminsky
48
23%
Trey Lyles
13
6%
Bobby Portis
15
7%
Willie Cauley-Stein
18
9%
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
9
4%
Stanley Johnson
17
8%
Montrezl Harrell
9
4%
 
Total votes: 208

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Re: Official Draft Thread: What should we do with the 13th and 43rd pick? 

Post#1221 » by RunDogGun » Sun May 31, 2015 9:10 pm

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kennydorglas wrote:Bobby Portis Reveals Pregame Motivation Comes From Envisioning Someone Hitting His Mom

oh my.



I'll be honest, I didnt like him... reminds me of Markieff Morris too much and I dont want the Suns to have another ISO type PF.

But, when I heard he base his game to Kevin Garnett... I started watching videos and games.

The one significant thing he has over Markieff already is his defense... he moves laterally very well, covers and disrupts big and small players.
He doesnt have freakish length like Garnett did.. so I dont think he will be the defender KG was, but if the effort and IQ is there, then its a huge plus at the PF spot.


Yeah, he's a bigger and more mobile version of Kieff.
I cant say enough that Kieff was a rebounding machine in KU. I always wonder what happened here.

He takes a lot of fade aways, and doesn't attack the basket when not shooting. When he does aggressively go for the basket, he does well rebounding. It would help him well if he worked his butt of on rebounding and the defensive end.
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Re: Official Draft Thread: What should we do with the 13th and 43rd pick? 

Post#1222 » by Mr-Al » Mon Jun 1, 2015 2:14 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:I'd like the FO to come out with the same plan, instead of doing PR for their own jobs.

McDonough keeps building and building, his work looks good for a GM on paper. Hornacek wants players who can win now so he can always be a playoff contending coach and avoid the zone where most coaches get fired. Babby was a win now guy in a different regime, so he's probably just as confused/happy he's still there. Sarver's ideal scenario is lots of revenue for as long as possible, but doesn't exactly know what's best to achieve it.

Projecting all that onto our draft picks, who knows what we'll do.


THIS

I honesty have no idea what we're doing. This summer will go a long way to figuring that out

After the deadline, I'm like ok, we're finally going to rebuild a little more and maybe put the playoffs off for a while, and then McD and Horny talk about trading our pick for a veteran that'll help us make the playoffs

What?

I trust McD. But who knows what the **** Babby and Sarver want
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Post#1223 » by Mr-Al » Mon Jun 1, 2015 2:17 am

If we pick any one of Lyles, Looney, or Kaminsky, I'll be pretty happy

Portis doesn't get me excited in the slightest. Kieff already provides 85% of what Portis will provide in his prime imo
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Post#1224 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Mon Jun 1, 2015 2:27 am

Keef provides somewhere around 10% of Portis's intensity.
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Post#1225 » by bwgood77 » Mon Jun 1, 2015 2:59 am

Mr-Al wrote:If we pick any one of Lyles, Looney, or Kaminsky, I'll be pretty happy

Portis doesn't get me excited in the slightest. Kieff already provides 85% of what Portis will provide in his prime imo


I like Lyles, but it would be nice if he had more range. I think he is probably the most old school PF and maybe one of the higher iq guys in our range other than Kaminsky.

Do you not like Turner? He and Kaminsky are easily my top choices...after that I would be ok with Looney, Lyles or even Portis. Looney is the most exciting of those three, but Portis is solid and Lyles might be underrated due to playing out of position and not a ton of minutes on that deep Kentucky team.
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Post#1226 » by JMac1 » Mon Jun 1, 2015 3:49 am

Chad Ford 5.0 mock has us getting.........you guessed it, Frank!
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Post#1227 » by Mr-Al » Mon Jun 1, 2015 5:34 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Mr-Al wrote:If we pick any one of Lyles, Looney, or Kaminsky, I'll be pretty happy

Portis doesn't get me excited in the slightest. Kieff already provides 85% of what Portis will provide in his prime imo


I like Lyles, but it would be nice if he had more range. I think he is probably the most old school PF and maybe one of the higher iq guys in our range other than Kaminsky.

Do you not like Turner? He and Kaminsky are easily my top choices...after that I would be ok with Looney, Lyles or even Portis. Looney is the most exciting of those three, but Portis is solid and Lyles might be underrated due to playing out of position and not a ton of minutes on that deep Kentucky team.


I love Turner, but absolutely no way he's there at 13
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Post#1228 » by edurham88 » Mon Jun 1, 2015 4:46 pm

Mr-Al wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:I'd like the FO to come out with the same plan, instead of doing PR for their own jobs.

McDonough keeps building and building, his work looks good for a GM on paper. Hornacek wants players who can win now so he can always be a playoff contending coach and avoid the zone where most coaches get fired. Babby was a win now guy in a different regime, so he's probably just as confused/happy he's still there. Sarver's ideal scenario is lots of revenue for as long as possible, but doesn't exactly know what's best to achieve it.

Projecting all that onto our draft picks, who knows what we'll do.


THIS

I honesty have no idea what we're doing. This summer will go a long way to figuring that out

After the deadline, I'm like ok, we're finally going to rebuild a little more and maybe put the playoffs off for a while, and then McD and Horny talk about trading our pick for a veteran that'll help us make the playoffs

What?

I trust McD. But who knows what the **** Babby and Sarver want



I don't think that trading our pick for a veteran necessarily means that the FO is going all in on the playoffs. There is a certain point where you can have too many young guys who all need playing time and extra development time in practice. It's best when you already have veteran leadership in place for the young guys to follow (like everyone mentions with the Spurs), but it's still good to have a veteran or two for the young guys to follow/learn from.

At some point you have to stop collecting assets/upside and actually start building a team. The FO has to decide who the keepers are and build a team around them. If they like who they have right now, then they might feel it's time to do that. Then they have time to build chemistry on the court while they develop.

That being said, I'm not sure that the Suns' core right now is good enough to be the foundation of a championship team in a few years. But there is a reason why the FO gets paid millions to do what they do. I trust their judgement and assume they have a plan in place.
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Post#1229 » by Mr-Al » Mon Jun 1, 2015 5:02 pm

I'm so sick of waiting for the draft
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Post#1230 » by kennydorglas » Mon Jun 1, 2015 5:08 pm

#Suns draft workouts Day 5: Devin Booker, Derek Cooke Jr., Vince Hunter, Josh Richardson, Jarvis Summers & Dez Wells

I really like Josh Richardson.
Hunter is a fantastic rebounder.

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Post#1231 » by Saberestar » Mon Jun 1, 2015 6:47 pm

Eric Bledsoe is watching the Suns pre-draft workout today with Robert Sarver. Bledsoe said he will spend the offseason in Phoenix.

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Post#1232 » by Saberestar » Mon Jun 1, 2015 10:42 pm

Payne is basically shutdown - no workouts on his schedule and he is being limited to drills and non-contact strength work.

https://mobile.twitter.com/stevekylerNB ... 7401836544

I really like this player. It's not a secret that we made a promise to T.J. Warren last year, so probably we make this year another promise if McDonough thinks that it is a good strategy.
Could be that we are the team who made the promise to Payne?
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Post#1233 » by saintEscaton » Mon Jun 1, 2015 10:50 pm

Preference would be 1)Looney 2)Turner 3) Lyles. One of them should be available. If not take Frank the Tank. Whatever its another sh*tty late lotto pick swing for the fences you're not gunna get much value trying to trade down or out of the draft. McDuh needs to realize that his asset collecting gimmicks and empty promises are only preventing the influx of impactful talent
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Post#1234 » by RunDogGun » Mon Jun 1, 2015 11:35 pm

Saberestar wrote:
Payne is basically shutdown - no workouts on his schedule and he is being limited to drills and non-contact strength work.

https://mobile.twitter.com/stevekylerNB ... 7401836544

I really like this player. It's not a secret that we made a promise to T.J. Warren last year, so probably we make this year another promise if McDonough thinks that it is a good strategy.
Could be that we are the team who made the promise to Payne?

I thought I read that OKC wanted Payne, and it was rumored that they may have promised him the pick at fourteen.
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Post#1235 » by Grots » Mon Jun 1, 2015 11:48 pm

I want Looney.
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Post#1236 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Jun 2, 2015 2:35 am

Outside of the top 6,
My priority for players falls into this sequence:

1- Frank kaminsky-just too versatile,mobile, crafty, and has a very high basketball i.q. He will more often than not creatively help his team find a way to win.

2- R.J. Hunter- Just far too good a shooter and creative scorer. Very creative and effortless in his shooting. Also his mobility. I still am stating my comparison for him as a hybrid of reggie miller(mobility and shooting mechanics).and curry in his shooting prowess.

3- Devin booker- a very good sharpshooter and developing defender. I see him as a cross between clay thompson and j.j. reddick. Either way he provides the shooting we need desperately.

4- Christian Wood, at 6'11 and only around 227lbs. He is pretty thin, but the talent and athleticism is definitely there. Also , he is a very adept shooter and an above the rim, shot blocking player. He is worth the risk, should we strike out or pass on any of the other listed players.

And in the 2nd round:

1- dakari johnson (poor mans' zach randolph). Still very good big man for being in the 2nd round.

2- Rakeem Christmas, good athleticism and intensity for a 6'9 player. Perhaps a rich mans' hakim warrick.

3- Guillermo Hernandgomez- at 6'11 and 260 lbs. With decent footwork and shooting mechanics, he is more or less a 6'11 luis scola/ Shorter marc gasol mix.

But still a very good draft and stash player.

4- Nikola Milutinov-at 7'0 and 225lbs. Desperately needs to add more weight. But he still is very mobile, athletic. And shows really decent fundamentals for a guy his size.
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Post#1237 » by JMac1 » Tue Jun 2, 2015 4:01 am

Ghost of Kleine wrote:Outside of the top 6,
My priority for players falls into this sequence:

1- Frank kaminsky-just too versatile,mobile, crafty, and has a very high basketball i.q. He will more often than not creatively help his team find a way to win.

2- R.J. Hunter- Just far too good a shooter and creative scorer. Very creative and effortless in his shooting. Also his mobility. I still am stating my comparison for him as a hybrid of reggie miller(mobility and shooting mechanics).and curry in his shooting prowess.

3- Devin booker- a very good sharpshooter and developing defender. I see him as a cross between clay thompson and j.j. reddick. Either way he provides the shooting we need desperately.

4- Christian Wood, at 6'11 and only around 227lbs. He is pretty thin, but the talent and athleticism is definitely there. Also , he is a very adept shooter and an above the rim, shot blocking player. He is worth the risk, should we strike out or pass on any of the other listed players.

And in the 2nd round:

1- dakari johnson (poor mans' zach randolph). Still very good big man for being in the 2nd round.

2- Rakeem Christmas, good athleticism and intensity for a 6'9 player. Perhaps a rich mans' hakim warrick.

3- Guillermo Hernandgomez- at 6'11 and 260 lbs. With decent footwork and shooting mechanics, he is more or less a 6'11 luis scola/ Shorter marc gasol mix.

But still a very good draft and stash player.

4- Nikola Milutinov-at 7'0 and 225lbs. Desperately needs to add more weight. But he still is very mobile, athletic. And shows really decent fundamentals for a guy his size.


Time to go to the highlights to see this guy!
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Post#1238 » by JMac1 » Tue Jun 2, 2015 4:12 am

RJ is a gunner. He only shot 30 percent from 3 and he was taking them deeeeeeep!
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Post#1239 » by kennydorglas » Tue Jun 2, 2015 4:24 am

Saberestar wrote:
Payne is basically shutdown - no workouts on his schedule and he is being limited to drills and non-contact strength work.

https://mobile.twitter.com/stevekylerNB ... 7401836544

I really like this player. It's not a secret that we made a promise to T.J. Warren last year, so probably we make this year another promise if McDonough thinks that it is a good strategy.
Could be that we are the team who made the promise to Payne?


Hell of a promise, huh? I dont think it's OKC... maybe some team in top10.
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Post#1240 » by MrMiyagi » Tue Jun 2, 2015 4:33 am

I do not understand why anyone would want RJ Hunter. He's a high volume chucker who will fail at the NBA level. He's Gerald Green without the athleticism.
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