Behind the Scenes of Turner's Testing

Skin · Post #61 » by **Skin** » Sat May 30, 2015 6:58 am

cedric76 wrote:
Skin wrote:LOVED Turner coming out of HS. Was probably my favorite guy in the class between Towns... Actually, I had him ahead of Towns.

He didn't perform as well as other top prospects, so his stock dropped, but I still remember the time when we used to talk about having to lose a lot of games in order to be able to draft Turner. I would be happy drafting him. At least he gives me hope of being a possible solution.

I think his coach didn't help, like you I was expecting more from him, but at this point there isn't an other player at #5 that has a higher 2 way ceiling

Well, he didn't look as explosive as he did in HS either. I like his ceiling, but it is limited by his lack of athleticism. I thought he was an elite prospect as a HS player, but he's not. Still good though. I can see him having a ceiling similar to LaMarcus Aldridge and that's why I would be happy with him as our pick.

cedric76 · Post #62 » by **cedric76** » Sat May 30, 2015 7:12 am

Skin wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
Skin wrote:LOVED Turner coming out of HS. Was probably my favorite guy in the class between Towns... Actually, I had him ahead of Towns.

He didn't perform as well as other top prospects, so his stock dropped, but I still remember the time when we used to talk about having to lose a lot of games in order to be able to draft Turner. I would be happy drafting him. At least he gives me hope of being a possible solution.

I think his coach didn't help, like you I was expecting more from him, but at this point there isn't an other player at #5 that has a higher 2 way ceiling

Well, he didn't look as explosive as he did in HS either. I like his ceiling, but it is limited by his lack of athleticism. I thought he was an elite prospect as a HS player, but he's not. Still good though. I can see him having a ceiling similar to LaMarcus Aldridge and that's why I would be happy with him as our pick.

A better defensive version of LA, I d be very happy with that @ #5

He 'll be explosive again

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Hum ... ner--4961/

Just minor set back, the issue has been spotted and trainers will have it fixed

Skin · Post #63 » by **Skin** » Sat May 30, 2015 7:25 am

cedric76 wrote:
Skin wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
I think his coach didn't help, like you I was expecting more from him, but at this point there isn't an other player at #5 that has a higher 2 way ceiling

Well, he didn't look as explosive as he did in HS either. I like his ceiling, but it is limited by his lack of athleticism. I thought he was an elite prospect as a HS player, but he's not. Still good though. I can see him having a ceiling similar to LaMarcus Aldridge and that's why I would be happy with him as our pick.

A better defensive version of LA, I d be very happy with that @ #5

He 'll be explosive again

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Hum ... ner--4961/

Just minor set back, the issue has been spotted and trainers will have it fixed

I enjoy your enthusiasm, but we'll just have to see. What I really like is how intelligent he seems to be. That goes a long ways in my book. Also, he fits our needs so I'm definitely on board. I don't know who will be the best player down the line, but he's got as good a shot as any.

We shall see if Henny has the guts to take him that early or figure out a trade down and still get him.

cedric76 · Post #64 » by **cedric76** » Sat May 30, 2015 7:28 am

Skin wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
Skin wrote:Well, he didn't look as explosive as he did in HS either. I like his ceiling, but it is limited by his lack of athleticism. I thought he was an elite prospect as a HS player, but he's not. Still good though. I can see him having a ceiling similar to LaMarcus Aldridge and that's why I would be happy with him as our pick.

A better defensive version of LA, I d be very happy with that @ #5

He 'll be explosive again

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Hum ... ner--4961/

Just minor set back, the issue has been spotted and trainers will have it fixed

I enjoy your enthusiasm, but we'll just have to see. What I really like is how intelligent he seems to be. That goes a long ways in my book. Also, he fits our needs so I'm definitely on board. I don't know who will be the best player down the line, but he's got as good a shot as any.

We shall see if Henny has the guts to take him that early or figure out a trade down and still get him.

Same, I really like bright guys, Myles tick all the boxes

cedric76 · Post #65 » by **cedric76** » Sat May 30, 2015 7:47 am

yahoo nba insider on turner

Top 10 yes

could he be a top 5?

http://finance.yahoo.com/video/myles-tu ... 1-cbs.html

Skin · Post #66 » by **Skin** » Sat May 30, 2015 7:51 am

cedric76 wrote:
Skin wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
A better defensive version of LA, I d be very happy with that @ #5

He 'll be explosive again

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Hum ... ner--4961/

Just minor set back, the issue has been spotted and trainers will have it fixed

I enjoy your enthusiasm, but we'll just have to see. What I really like is how intelligent he seems to be. That goes a long ways in my book. Also, he fits our needs so I'm definitely on board. I don't know who will be the best player down the line, but he's got as good a shot as any.

We shall see if Henny has the guts to take him that early or figure out a trade down and still get him.

Same, I really like bright guys, Myles tick all the boxes

LOL. You need more boxes. He's not an elite prospect.

cedric76 · Post #67 » by **cedric76** » Sat May 30, 2015 7:59 am

Skin wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
Skin wrote:I enjoy your enthusiasm, but we'll just have to see. What I really like is how intelligent he seems to be. That goes a long ways in my book. Also, he fits our needs so I'm definitely on board. I don't know who will be the best player down the line, but he's got as good a shot as any.

We shall see if Henny has the guts to take him that early or figure out a trade down and still get him.

Same, I really like bright guys, Myles tick all the boxes

LOL. You need more boxes. He's not an elite prospect.

Boxes as a person not as a player

cedric76 · Post #68 » by **cedric76** » Mon Jun 1, 2015 3:00 pm

The Defense

Turner set himself apart as an elite weak side help defender in his one year at Texas. He averaged 2.6 blocks in 22.2 minutes of playing time (or an absurd 4.7 per 40 minutes). While he may not be a great athlete, you can't teach the kind of length that Turner possesses. His 9'4" standing reach was the second longest of the 2015 draft combine. The combination of that length and excellent timing on the defensive end makes him both an elite rim protector and excellent defensive rebounder. He average 5.2 defensive rebounds per 22 minutes (9.4 per 40) and was generally good at establishing position on missed shots. http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2015/ ... d-a-longer

Orlando_Boy · Post #69 » by **Orlando_Boy** » Mon Jun 1, 2015 7:57 pm

If we can some how get bobby portis and turner from this draft i'll be a happy camper! they both will compliment each other very well.

seeingstars · Post #70 » by **seeingstars** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 11:30 am

Orlando_Boy wrote:If we can some how get bobby portis and turner from this draft i'll be a happy camper! they both will compliment each other very well.

Aren't they both projected power forwards at the next level though?

Blue_and_Whte · Post #71 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:07 pm

If be fine with Turner at 5 actually. I think he looks much more fluid now than he did I'm college and it can only get better. His jumper is wet.

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Magic_Johnny12 · Post #72 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 2:09 pm

There is absolutely no scenario you should justify taking Turner @ 5.

Trade down for Turner, YES

Picking Turner with the #5 pick (****) <--- insert your choice of inappropriate word ..no.

He is not an "elite" prospect, some people say Okafor is not even "elite" so stop.

Turner has potential to be a great player and because he fits our current needs hes someone I value higher than others but to waste a top 5 pick on a player you can get 10-12 makes no sense and highly doubt it happens.

cedric76 · Post #73 » by **cedric76** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 2:40 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:There is absolutely no scenario you should justify taking Turner @ 5.

Trade down for Turner, YES

Picking Turner with the #5 pick (****) <--- insert your choice of inappropriate word ..no.

He is not an "elite" prospect, some people say Okafor is not even "elite" so stop.

Turner has potential to be a great player and because he fits our current needs hes someone I value higher than others but to waste a top 5 pick on a player you can get 10-12 makes no sense and highly doubt it happens.

Exactly what people were saying about Aaron last year

Don't believe the mock draft, they know less than proper gms

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #74 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 3:10 pm

cedric76 wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:There is absolutely no scenario you should justify taking Turner @ 5.

Trade down for Turner, YES

Picking Turner with the #5 pick (****) <--- insert your choice of inappropriate word ..no.

He is not an "elite" prospect, some people say Okafor is not even "elite" so stop.

Turner has potential to be a great player and because he fits our current needs hes someone I value higher than others but to waste a top 5 pick on a player you can get 10-12 makes no sense and highly doubt it happens.

Exactly what people were saying about Aaron last year

Don't believe the mock draft, they know less than proper gms

The lowest I seen Aaron on most mocks last year was 8 and that was early in the work outs, him as well as Payton draft stock grew quick with the more workouts they did, there was even rumor that Utah gave Gordon a promise at #5 if he was still there and we drafted him w/ our #4. Aaron Gordon had ALOT of hype last year and people were claiming him the next Blake Griffin but better defensively.

I'll wait for workouts for my final verdict but there's not much hype around Turner and rightfully so, I don't see him going any higher than #8 and that assumption is truly based on Porzinigis one on one performances.

cedric76 · Post #75 » by **cedric76** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 3:16 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:There is absolutely no scenario you should justify taking Turner @ 5.

Trade down for Turner, YES

Picking Turner with the #5 pick (****) <--- insert your choice of inappropriate word ..no.

He is not an "elite" prospect, some people say Okafor is not even "elite" so stop.

Turner has potential to be a great player and because he fits our current needs hes someone I value higher than others but to waste a top 5 pick on a player you can get 10-12 makes no sense and highly doubt it happens.

Exactly what people were saying about Aaron last year

Don't believe the mock draft, they know less than proper gms

The lowest I seen Aaron on most mocks last year was 8 and that was early in the work outs, him as well as Payton draft stock grew quick with the more workouts they did, there was even rumor that Utah gave Gordon a promise at #5 if he was still there and we drafted him w/ our #4. Aaron Gordon had ALOT of hype last year and people were claiming him the next Blake Griffin but better defensively.

I'll wait for workouts for my final verdict but there's not much hype around Turner and rightfully so, I don't see him going any higher than #8 and that assumption is truly based on Porzinigis one on one performances.

Let's see in 2 weeks, I m sure I 'll have lot of hype

KillMonger · Post #76 » by **KillMonger** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 4:04 pm

i seen AG at 12 on some mocks just about where turner is now but when the workouts started AG's stock rose so there is a chance the same might happen to Turner. We will see soon enough, when the workouts start things always leak and the game starts i can't wait to hear how Turner is doing in his workouts.

Orlando_Boy · Post #77 » by **Orlando_Boy** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 4:30 pm

seeingstars wrote:
Orlando_Boy wrote:If we can some how get bobby portis and turner from this draft i'll be a happy camper! they both will compliment each other very well.

Aren't they both projected power forwards at the next level though?

Portis is a 4, but turner can play the 4 and 5 in the next level.

seeingstars · Post #78 » by **seeingstars** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 5:25 pm

Orlando_Boy wrote:
seeingstars wrote:
Orlando_Boy wrote:If we can some how get bobby portis and turner from this draft i'll be a happy camper! they both will compliment each other very well.

Aren't they both projected power forwards at the next level though?

Portis is a 4, but turner can play the 4 and 5 in the next level.

That's right with his length. But yeah, I'd love to snag them both!

seeingstars · Post #79 » by **seeingstars** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 5:39 pm

Orlando_Boy wrote:
seeingstars wrote:
Orlando_Boy wrote:If we can some how get bobby portis and turner from this draft i'll be a happy camper! they both will compliment each other very well.

Aren't they both projected power forwards at the next level though?

Portis is a 4, but turner can play the 4 and 5 in the next level.

That's right because of his length. I agree though I'd love to somehow snag both!

Post #80 » by **SD2042** » Wed Jun 3, 2015 12:18 am

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:There is absolutely no scenario you should justify taking Turner @ 5.

Trade down for Turner, YES

Picking Turner with the #5 pick (****) <--- insert your choice of inappropriate word ..no.

He is not an "elite" prospect, some people say Okafor is not even "elite" so stop.

Turner has potential to be a great player and because he fits our current needs hes someone I value higher than others but to waste a top 5 pick on a player you can get 10-12 makes no sense and highly doubt it happens.

Sometimes I think we as humans get caught up in the labels. Just because a player is picked 1, 2, 3, 4, may or may not justify that you are the best player in the draft based on a number. You have players like Manu Ginobili who was picked in the late second round and has made a difference for the Spurs throughout his career. You also have undrafted players like Draymond Green currently with the Warriors who is not just contributing, but starting for the Warriors as well. It's not about the number you are selected at that labels you, it's the skills you bring to the league that defines you.