Spurs Salary Cap 15/16 Season

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Spurs Salary Cap 15/16 Season 

Post#1 » by SpursNBucks » Tue Jun 2, 2015 3:27 am

Salary Cap is $67.1 mil, but luxury tax limit is $81.6 mil.

Parker $13.4 mil
Splitter $8.5 mil
Diaw $7.5 mil
Mills $3.2 mil
Anderson $1.1 mil

So about $34 mil committed

Leonard will get a max deal - (Spurs made mistake not doing this a year ago) $16 mil

That adds up to roughly $50 mil with $30 mil to spend before you hit Tax

That means with $30 mill to spend you need to:

Duncan = $10 mil - if he takes what he got last year
Green (maybe come back)? Probably around $7- 8 mil if you want him back

That leaves about $14 mil, and you have filled just 8 roster spots - they need to fill 5 more. The only way the Spurs can possibly bring in a max contract free agent is to rid themselves of some salary = Parker, Splitter, and Diaw all overpaid - Parker you could question, but if he plays at the level he did a year ago he is - under 5 assists/ and 14 ppg. Parker is 33 - and has three more years on his contract - hard to find a trade partner. Splitter and Diaw together form one Center that is costing the Spurs $16mil/ one has to go. I don't see how they pull off a deal for Gasol or LMA?

The only scenario I see is trading Splitter and not resigning Green (get someone cheaper). Their problem is they have so few productive rookies - rookie contracts. The Bucks (my other team) have three starters on rookie contracts - four if you count Henson.

Maybe I'm missing something?
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Post#2 » by co_laper » Tue Jun 2, 2015 5:40 am

I don't quite understand the question.. Are you asking how we can afford LMA or Marc given our cap situation?
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Post#3 » by SpursNBucks » Tue Jun 2, 2015 3:07 pm

co_laper wrote:I don't quite understand the question.. Are you asking how we can afford LMA or Marc given our cap situation?


Yes, just looking at the #'s and trying to figure out how and who they can fit inside the luxury tax #.
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Re: Spurs Salary Cap 15/16 Season 

Post#4 » by pad300 » Tue Jun 2, 2015 3:51 pm

I think that SpursnBucks is suggesting that SAS is not willing to pay the luxury tax, and therefore will have a great deal of difficulty constructing a roster that includes a maximum deal for an FA (beyond Kawhi resigning). To expand a bit on his point:

Guaranteed Salaries:
Tony Parker $13,437,500
Tiago Splitter $8,500,000
Boris Diaw $7,000,000
Patty Mills $3,578,947
Kyle Anderson $1,142,879

Total $33,659,326

Projected Future Salaries

Kawhi Leonard Max Contact = 25% of cap = $16,800,000 (this is pretty much a lock)
Danny Green $10,000,000 (I suspect this is a more realistic projection)
Tim Duncan $8,000,000 (I suspect that he will take less, as he is playing less minutes...it may be I am an optimist).

A Big FA (theoretically Aldridge) = Max Contract = 35% of cap = $23,500,000

That's 9 roster spots, and the Spurs paying $91,959,326, almost $10 million in lux tax, with a minimum of 3 more roster spots to fill... with the rookie exception, the MLE, BAE and vet min contracts. Dumping Tiago for no salary return (almost a necessity if we want a to be able to sign that max FA at all) would save $8,500,000 in lux tax, but would open another empty roster spot...

Is Peter Holt willing to pay that much lux tax? Even if it would be a one time thing, what with the cap jump coming in 2106/17, it does seem quite out of character... I agree with SpursnBucks on this point, which is one reason why I suspect that all this talk of a max free agent is just talk, and I suspect that our roster next season will look closer to something like this:

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1385926#p43534310

Bigs - Duncan ($8,000,000 and $7,000,000 for 2 years), Splitter, Diaw, Amir Johnson ($30,000,000 for 4 years), Alexis Ajinca (vet min)
Wings - Kawhi, Green($57,500,000 for 5 years = $10,000,000 per year plus 7.5% raises), Manu ($2,200,000 ?BAE ish money from the MLE?), Anderson, Calathes (Vet Min)
PG - Parker, Mills, Delon Wright (Draft pick, starting at $990K)

for a total salary of $81,647,700, which is sitting right on the edge of the lux tax for 13 players...
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Re: Spurs Salary Cap 15/16 Season 

Post#5 » by co_laper » Tue Jun 2, 2015 5:52 pm

pad300 wrote:I think that SpursnBucks is suggesting that SAS is not willing to pay the luxury tax, and therefore will have a great deal of difficulty constructing a roster that includes a maximum deal for an FA (beyond Kawhi resigning). To expand a bit on his point:

Guaranteed Salaries:
Tony Parker $13,437,500
Tiago Splitter $8,500,000
Boris Diaw $7,000,000
Patty Mills $3,578,947
Kyle Anderson $1,142,879

Total $33,659,326

Projected Future Salaries

Kawhi Leonard Max Contact = 25% of cap = $16,800,000 (this is pretty much a lock)
Danny Green $10,000,000 (I suspect this is a more realistic projection)
Tim Duncan $8,000,000 (I suspect that he will take less, as he is playing less minutes...it may be I am an optimist).

A Big FA (theoretically Aldridge) = Max Contract = 35% of cap = $23,500,000

That's 9 roster spots, and the Spurs paying $91,959,326, almost $10 million in lux tax, with a minimum of 3 more roster spots to fill... with the rookie exception, the MLE, BAE and vet min contracts. Dumping Tiago for no salary return (almost a necessity if we want a to be able to sign that max FA at all) would save $8,500,000 in lux tax, but would open another empty roster spot...

Is Peter Holt willing to pay that much lux tax? Even if it would be a one time thing, what with the cap jump coming in 2106/17, it does seem quite out of character... I agree with SpursnBucks on this point, which is one reason why I suspect that all this talk of a max free agent is just talk, and I suspect that our roster next season will look closer to something like this:

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1385926#p43534310

Bigs - Duncan ($8,000,000 and $7,000,000 for 2 years), Splitter, Diaw, Amir Johnson ($30,000,000 for 4 years), Alexis Ajinca (vet min)
Wings - Kawhi, Green($57,500,000 for 5 years = $10,000,000 per year plus 7.5% raises), Manu ($2,200,000 ?BAE ish money from the MLE?), Anderson, Calathes (Vet Min)
PG - Parker, Mills, Delon Wright (Draft pick, starting at $990K)

for a total salary of $81,647,700, which is sitting right on the edge of the lux tax for 13 players...


So the argument is what kind of roster we can have if we bring in a Max FA right?

I'll play this.

Guaranteed Salaries:
Tony Parker $13,437,500
Tiago Splitter $8,500,000
Boris Diaw $7,000,000
Patty Mills $3,578,947
Kyle Anderson $1,142,879

Total $33,659,326

Salary cap is 67.1 million, so that means we will have about 34 million still available. Kawhi's cap hold is 7.2 mil. Danny Green's cap hold is 6.1. So that's another 13.3 mil less which means we'll have about 20.7 million to play with in Free Agency. If the idea is to bring in a Max FA, that means we'll be renouncing everyone else including Manu, TD, Joseph, Baynes, etc. Basically everyone but Green and Kawhi.

So first order of business, assume we get that Max FA. Let's just say LMA.

Second, we match/sign Kawhi to his max contract.

Third, because we have Danny's bird rights, we'll be able to sign him to anything we want. 10 mil a year sounds about right to me.

Fourth, because we used cap room to sign LMA, we're granted a new exception installed in the last CBA called "room exception" which is worth around 2.5 mil. Let's just say that Tim Duncan amazingly says yeah I'll play for that 2.5 mil.

Then we'd have:

C: TD / Tiago
PF: LMA / Diaw
SF: Kawhi / Kyle
SG: Green
PG: Parker / Patty

Not as much depth, but still pretty good. I don't feel that it's as good as just bringing in the whole team back though. We'll have to bring in a whole bunch of guys on veteran minimums.

It's impossible IMO to bring Duncan and a max FA in. I really can't see Duncan playing for 2.5 mil. And if he were to get anything more than 7 mil, that means we'll have to renounce Danny's cap hold and give that money to Duncan. I also think it's unlikely that the Spurs can find a trade partner quick enough from the moment LMA says he's coming to San Antonio and the Spurs finding someone to take Tiago/Diaw for free. I can see Tiago/Diaw getting traded during the season to bring in perimeter help, but not in the couple of days when LMA says yes and FAs are able to sign contracts. LMA is not going to wait long for the Spurs to look for trade partners.

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