Draftexpress drops Mudiay down to pick #6 today

[Kenyon009]

Draft the best available player. The triangle is garbage, the only reason it produced championships is because it had all time greats playing in it. I'm gonna love watching Phil describe the 'problems' with the roster when it doesn't work out.

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You could put Kobe, MJ, Shaq in any or most offenses and they would still produce great numbers/win championships. The triangle isn't going to workout because you build systems to fit with your players not the other way around.

This team has no where near the talent to be drafting by need, yet they're planning to do so. That's one of the biggest mistakes you could make. If Jackson skips on Mudiay I really hope he gets fired, you always take the BPA especially if you're in the top five.

[K_ick_God]

Just take Mudiay. Tall point who works hard, plays selflessly and is sufficiently athletic = low bust potential. Okay maybe not boom. But he will be a contributor at least, maybe more.

[kane]

I would just want him in the playoffs. Hell I would even let him sit out games against sub 500 teams, getting to the playoffs in the East should be easy with only Melo on the roster.

There's no way he would leave Miami unless it was to go to a contender or if we throw max money at him... And right now he's just a glorified Ray Allen and only worth close to the min

What?

He's not getting the max from anyone. I would give him a 12-14 million for 3 years though. Considering his injury history that's more than fair enough there isn't another contender that will pay him that much, if Riley pisses him off well enough it would mean he'll come here.

The 12-14 million is going to be starter level money in the coming years so I wouldn't mind giving it to him. He would fit well in the triangle with his decent post game as well and he has that IT factor that'll help in the playoffs for sure.

No **** he's not getting the max and that's why I put it as only one of the possible ways he would leave, Riley is loyal enough to overpay to keep him as their derek jeter

[NoLayupRule]

Draft the best available player. The triangle is garbage, the only reason it produced championships is because it had all time greats playing in it. I'm gonna love watching Phil describe the 'problems' with the roster when it doesn't work out.

that post <<<<<<<<<<<<

You could put Kobe, MJ, Shaq in any or most offenses and they would still produce great numbers/win championships. The triangle isn't going to workout because you build systems to fit with your players not the other way around.

This team has no where near the talent to be drafting by need, yet they're planning to do so. That's one of the biggest mistakes you could make. If Jackson skips on Mudiay I really hope he gets fired, you always take the BPA especially if you're in the top five.

of course they could

and the biggest issue this team has had is that were fielding a pathetic supporting cast with Melo and wasting years and years

that and his coaches have been subpar

Look at Kobe and Shaq before Phil or after him when they struggled
its not just a matter of slotting in the players

the system got MJ and Pippen past the Pistons when they couldn't before
the system got Kobe and Shaq past Utah and Portland and SA when they couldn't before

Shaq won 1 more title after LA in Mia when Wade basically was unstoppable and the Mavs fell apart
Kobe won 3 more in LA after Shaq left when Phil slotted in Bynum and Gasol who are no Shaq

Phil's record speaks for itself

I trust him to build around Melo
I trust him to draft the player that works in his system the best
I trust his hand picked and schooled coach to make the system work and adjust it when it doesn't

and I have more faith in this than a cynical, lazy and anti-fan statement like

The triangle is garbage, the only reason it produced championships is because it had all time greats playing in it. I'm gonna love watching Phil describe the 'problems' with the roster when it doesn't work out.

I dont understand fans like you
people who say they can't wait to see a failure
people who say they are going to laugh when such and such bad thing happens

either you are too young to developed empathy and class and humility or you are just posturing for the internet or you are a terrible fan and should go be a 76er fan

[newyorker4ever]

An explosive Tyson Chandler that can shoot?

Tyson Chandler used to hit shots in practice all the time but for some reason when it came to game time it wasn't anywhere to be seen so lets not let this video of WCS hitting jumpers in a workout session make him our pick at #4 no matter what. I am a fan though and wouldn't be mad at the pick.

Yeah, but Tyson always looked uncomfortable and awkward when shooting. WCS looks like he's actually skilled at hitting jump shots and handling the ball, as well.

I'm not really focusing on how he looked while shooting cause he was making them so all i'm saying is just cause he can hit some shots in a workout doesn't mean he can in a game, and if you noticed he made every shot they showed in that clip so it was edited. Don't get me wrong cause i'm a WCS fan and wouldn't mind him being our pick at all i'm just being careful is all.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

Draft the best available player. The triangle is garbage, the only reason it produced championships is because it had all time greats playing in it. I'm gonna love watching Phil describe the 'problems' with the roster when it doesn't work out.

If we land Wade this summer, which is looking more and more likely, we would have two all time greats with him and Melo.

why is it looking more and more likely?
from everything i read there is a possibility he leaves. and from that possibility what are the chances he actually lands with knicks

We all know where players turn to when they're looking to be overpaid. That's why it's looking more and more likely that he'll come here...plus he and Melo are boys, they could probably take on anyone in the East not named Lebron

[NYKnicksTAPE]

Wade on a 3 year 36 mil contract is fine with me...I've always wanted to see him in a Knicks jersey. Him and Mudiay in the back court with Melo at SF would give us a lot of post up options...we'd be playing bully ball at 3 positions. Plus, Wade could mentor Mudiay and show him what it takes to be great...they have similar physical profiles and games

[swisscheeseD]

Wade on a 3 year 36 mil contract is fine with me...I've always wanted to see him in a Knicks jersey. Him and Mudiay in the back court with Melo at SF would give us a lot of post up options...we'd be playing bully ball at 3 positions. Plus, Wade could mentor Mudiay and show him what it takes to be great...they have similar physical profiles and games

First of all, I want nothing to do with Wade in a Knicks jersey. Secondly, if we were to draft Mudiay, wouldn't Wade be a bit redundant as his backcourt mate? Wouldn't spacing be an issue?

In the event that Wade signs on the bottom line, I would see Phil move Mudiay for a win-now piece.

[kane2021]

Tyson Chandler used to hit shots in practice all the time but for some reason when it came to game time it wasn't anywhere to be seen so lets not let this video of WCS hitting jumpers in a workout session make him our pick at #4 no matter what. I am a fan though and wouldn't be mad at the pick.

Yeah, but Tyson always looked uncomfortable and awkward when shooting. WCS looks like he's actually skilled at hitting jump shots and handling the ball, as well.

I'm not really focusing on how he looked while shooting cause he was making them so all i'm saying is just cause he can hit some shots in a workout doesn't mean he can in a game, and if you noticed he made every shot they showed in that clip so it was edited. Don't get me wrong cause i'm a WCS fan and wouldn't mind him being our pick at all i'm just being careful is all.

I haven't been a fan of drafting him. But he's doing way more than just hitting open jumpers. He's hitting from 3. Back to back. Hitting on the move off of screens. He is making quick change of direction moves, while dribbling the ball through his legs and hitting shots. He did that SIX straight times. Practice or not I seriously doubt the guys he's being compared to are doing that.

Another thing I noticed. His shot might be a bit slow but he's getting lift on it and keeps the ball high above his head. That's not something that's easily defensible at 7 foot. Again im not on his bandwagon but that's dam impressive.

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[ctorres]

I haven't been a fan of drafting him. But he's doing way more than just hitting open jumpers. He's hitting from 3. Back to back. Hitting on the move off of screens. He is making quick change of direction moves, while dribbling the ball through his legs and hitting shots. He did that SIX straight times. Practice or not I seriously doubt the guys he's being compared to are doing that.

Another thing I noticed. His shot might be a bit slow but he's getting lift on it and keeps the ball high above his head. That's not something that's easily defensible at 7 foot. Again im not on his bandwagon but that's dam impressive.

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It's like he's now a hybrid of Tyson Chandler and Channing Frye.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

Wade on a 3 year 36 mil contract is fine with me...I've always wanted to see him in a Knicks jersey. Him and Mudiay in the back court with Melo at SF would give us a lot of post up options...we'd be playing bully ball at 3 positions. Plus, Wade could mentor Mudiay and show him what it takes to be great...they have similar physical profiles and games

First of all, I want nothing to do with Wade in a Knicks jersey. Secondly, if we were to draft Mudiay, wouldn't Wade be a bit redundant as his backcourt mate? Wouldn't spacing be an issue?

In the event that Wade signs on the bottom line, I would see Phil move Mudiay for a win-now piece.

I would love Wade in a Knicks jersey. No, I'm not that worried about spacing. Are teams going to help off of Melo to stop Wade or help off of Wade to stop Melo? They will be attached to them like glue like they've always been giving us more than enough space to work with. Then they also have to worry about Mudiay attacking the rim. Wade would only be on a 3 year contract so I'm not trading the future in Mudiay

[newyorker4ever]

Yeah, but Tyson always looked uncomfortable and awkward when shooting. WCS looks like he's actually skilled at hitting jump shots and handling the ball, as well.

I'm not really focusing on how he looked while shooting cause he was making them so all i'm saying is just cause he can hit some shots in a workout doesn't mean he can in a game, and if you noticed he made every shot they showed in that clip so it was edited. Don't get me wrong cause i'm a WCS fan and wouldn't mind him being our pick at all i'm just being careful is all.

I haven't been a fan of drafting him. But he's doing way more than just hitting open jumpers. He's hitting from 3. Back to back. Hitting on the move off of screens. He is making quick change of direction moves, while dribbling the ball through his legs and hitting shots. He did that SIX straight times. Practice or not I seriously doubt the guys he's being compared to are doing that.

Another thing I noticed. His shot might be a bit slow but he's getting lift on it and keeps the ball high above his head. That's not something that's easily defensible at 7 foot. Again im not on his bandwagon but that's dam impressive.

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Thank you but i watched the video and saw everything he was doing so didn't really need the breakdown but practice/workout and in a actual game is a huge difference and i am all for us drafting him.

[K_ick_God]

Wade on a 3 year 36 mil contract is fine with me...I've always wanted to see him in a Knicks jersey. Him and Mudiay in the back court with Melo at SF would give us a lot of post up options...we'd be playing bully ball at 3 positions. Plus, Wade could mentor Mudiay and show him what it takes to be great...they have similar physical profiles and games

If Wade, Melo and LMA could beat Bron next year, it'd be one of the great sports stories of all time. Yeah long shot. Still fun to think about it.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

Wade on a 3 year 36 mil contract is fine with me...I've always wanted to see him in a Knicks jersey. Him and Mudiay in the back court with Melo at SF would give us a lot of post up options...we'd be playing bully ball at 3 positions. Plus, Wade could mentor Mudiay and show him what it takes to be great...they have similar physical profiles and games

If Wade, Melo and LMA could beat Bron next year, it'd be one of the great sports stories of all time. Yeah long shot. Still fun to think about it.

I don't think that it would be that much of a long shot. Wade will know Bron's weaknesses, and Melo always gives him a hard time. Mudiay can stay in front of Kyrie and give him trouble on the other end. Wade always sh*ts on JR and Shump. LMA is just way better than Tristan Thompson, and lawd have mercy if Kevin Love has to guard him. Mosgov doesn't worry me too much. The main issue would be chemistry, but Wade also has championship experience, and although he's not what he used to be he's still far from being done.

[K_ick_God]

Wade on a 3 year 36 mil contract is fine with me...I've always wanted to see him in a Knicks jersey. Him and Mudiay in the back court with Melo at SF would give us a lot of post up options...we'd be playing bully ball at 3 positions. Plus, Wade could mentor Mudiay and show him what it takes to be great...they have similar physical profiles and games

If Wade, Melo and LMA could beat Bron next year, it'd be one of the great sports stories of all time. Yeah long shot. Still fun to think about it.

I don't think that it would be that much of a long shot. Wade will know Bron's weaknesses, and Melo always gives him a hard time. Mudiay can stay in front of Kyrie and give him trouble on the other end. Wade always sh*ts on JR and Shump. LMA is just way better than Tristan Thompson, and lawd have mercy if Kevin Love has to guard him. Mosgov doesn't worry me too much. The main issue would be chemistry, but Wade also has championship experience, and although he's not what he used to be he's still far from being done.

I'm ready. Body and mind.

[blueNorange]

WCS needs to be the one.

Stop trolling.

not trolling at all, i love everything about WCS.

it's like drafting an offensive lineman, it's not the sexy pick but 2-3 years from now we'll be so happy to have drafted WCS.

[darkjedi4z]

When is the draft? The wait is killing me!! Hahaha I want to get on to free agency already and see how this team shapes up to be. Middle June?

[LuxTheGoat]

Someone post some WCS stats please. I liked him in the one or two college games I saw him in. Not sure if he's a good pick at 4 though. And I know he's probably more of a defensive and intangibles kind of guy. Still wanna see some stats though.

This year (his Junior year) he averaged 8.9ppg, 6.4rpg, 1.7bpg, 1.2spg, 1.0apg, 57%fg, 62%ft, 59%ts, 57%efg, 119.8ortg, 80.0drtg, 25.9mpg. Probably the biggest drop from the previous year is his bpg (went from 2.9 to 1.7 between last year and this year) but that likely has to do with the presence of Towns and Calipari using the more mobile WCS to guard further away from the basket.

Much appreciated. Thanks

[Pharmcat]

mudiay cant shoot, questionable d, struggles to finish at rim..he is a poor mans rondo

[FemaleDogPlease]

mudiay cant shoot, questionable d, struggles to finish at rim..he is a poor mans rondo