Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick?

Post #1801 » by **Klomp** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 3:55 am

AQuintus wrote:
Klomp wrote:If he does that during the season, people will blame Flip for drafting someone who likes taking long 2s.

You roll your eyes now, but it'll happen.

Takingbaconback · Post #1802 » by **Takingbaconback** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 3:59 am

Cuz its going to be flips fault for letting him shoot so many long 2s in that case.

Rookies are going to make rookie mistakes, if youre expecting flip to not fix a simple error as that, he shouldnt be coaching

jpatrick · Post #1803 » by **jpatrick** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 4:00 am

I completely disagree that Towns won't draw doubles. I just looked at Towns last 20 games. He shot 63% in those games playing almost exclusively in the post, where he was learning as he went, in a system, unlike Okafor, which made it hard to succeed. He was usually on the floor with two bigs with no range (Lyles, WCS), killing any spacing, and unlike Okafor who had the benefit of a pure PG and a very unselfish slashing wing, Towns got almost no easy baskets created by his teammates.

I agree his post game is not at Okafor's level and that there is a very good chance it never will be, but with the progress and results he's already displayed, I think his post game can be NBA elite. And of course, that is in addition to his defense, shooting, and FT shooting, which are significantly better than Okafor.

TRKO · Post #1804 » by **TRKO** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 4:12 am

jpatrick wrote:I completely disagree that Towns won't draw doubles. I just looked at Towns last 20 games. He shot 63% in those games playing almost exclusively in the post, where he was learning as he went, in a system, unlike Okafor, which made it hard to succeed. He was usually on the floor with two bigs with no range (Lyles, WCS), killing any spacing, and unlike Okafor who had the benefit of a pure PG and a very unselfish slashing wing, Towns got almost no easy baskets created by his teammates.

I agree his post game is not at Okafor's level and that there is a very good chance it never will be, but with the progress and results he's already displayed, I think his post game can be NBA elite. And of course, that is in addition to his defense, shooting, and FT shooting, which are significantly better than Okafor.

Notre Dame and Wisconsin didn't double KAT for the most part because they were worried about the three point shooters Kentucky had. I agree Lyles and WCS may have effected spacing on offense, but they were really beneficial on the defensive end. So it's give an take on that front. Towns is going to need to have strength and improve his footwork to be a great post player in the league. He has it in him, it's going to take work.

Crazy-Canuck · Post #1805 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 4:13 am

jpatrick wrote:I completely disagree that Towns won't draw doubles. I just looked at Towns last 20 games. He shot 63% in those games playing almost exclusively in the post, where he was learning as he went, in a system, unlike Okafor, which made it hard to succeed. He was usually on the floor with two bigs with no range (Lyles, WCS), killing any spacing, and unlike Okafor who had the benefit of a pure PG and a very unselfish slashing wing, Towns got almost no easy baskets created by his teammates.

I agree his post game is not at Okafor's level and that there is a very good chance it never will be, but with the progress and results he's already displayed, I think his post game can be NBA elite. And of course, that is in addition to his defense, shooting, and FT shooting, which are significantly better than Okafor.

That also goes both ways.

KAT had the luxury of not seeing doubles and triples on the bulk of his possessions.

Okafor had a crazy percentage as the focus of the def.

Not all shooting percentages are equal.

Okafor also made things easier for his teammates by allowing them more cutting lanes and open 3's. With KAT, you hope he can do those things down the line. With Okafor, we know he can do those things now.

Post #1806 » by **The J Rocka** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 4:13 am

Klomp wrote:
AQuintus wrote:
Klomp wrote:If he does that during the season, people will blame Flip for drafting someone who likes taking long 2s.

You roll your eyes now, but it'll happen.

You're going to use that argument on a single highlight play where the shot clock is about to expire?

Post #1807 » by **Worm Guts** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 4:14 am

The WCS thing could work both ways though since it may have meant Towns didn't have the biggest guy guarding him. He did seem to have remarkable consistency on his jump hook but don't remember a whole lot of counters.

minimus · Post #1808 » by **minimus** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 4:56 am

After Towns shooting workout video I would be happy if Flip drafts either Okafor or Towns. I'm eager to see Penberthy working with either KAT or JO.

Mattya · Post #1809 » by **Mattya** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 5:08 am

Worm Guts wrote:The WCS thing could work both ways though since it may have meant Towns didn't have the biggest guy guarding him. He did seem to have remarkable consistency on his jump hook but don't remember a whole lot of counters.

Unless WCS was floating on the perimeter guys couldn't leave him because he was too much of a lob target and O board back tapper.

Note30 · Post #1810 » by **Note30** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 7:20 am

UMMMM... Who else saw that Mudiay report????? WTF.

Post #1811 » by **Domejandro** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 7:38 am

I am quite confident that we are blowing smoke, but I am getting slightly concerned that we may move on from Ricky Rubio.

AQuintus · Post #1812 » by **AQuintus** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 7:55 am

TRKO wrote:Notre Dame and Wisconsin didn't double KAT for the most part because they were worried about the three point shooters Kentucky had.

3 points shooters (really shooter - Booker) that weren't on the court at the same time as Towns.

Foye · Post #1813 » by **Foye** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 8:05 am

Note30 wrote:UMMMM... Who else saw that Mudiay report????? WTF.

Smokescreen.

MinotauroBigNog · Post #1814 » by **MinotauroBigNog** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 8:20 am

I'm a Flip supporter but if we end up drafting Mudiay and trading Rubio instead of taking Towns/Okafor.. :noway:

Thankfully we love our smokescreens :uhoh:

theGreatRC · Post #1815 » by **theGreatRC** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 8:25 am

I don't know what's going on, but i'm confident we aren't taking a PG #1. We're going Okafor/Towns. Not only are they the two best prospects, but they also fill positions that we need the most as well.

Crazy-Canuck · Post #1816 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 8:43 am

Flip has to be baiting hinkie.

Note30 · Post #1817 » by **Note30** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 8:51 am

I can't handle this at all. I thought the whole Kevin Love trade was bad, but this is MUCH worse.

Curuch13 · Post #1818 » by **Curuch13** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 8:56 am

I told you guys Mudiay is in serious consideration. But we are most likely doing that if we are trading down.

Foye · Post #1819 » by **Foye** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 10:22 am

theGreatRC wrote:I don't know what's going on, but i'm confident we aren't taking a PG #1. We're going Okafor/Towns. Not only are they the two best prospects, but they also fill positions that we need the most as well.

Maybe he is indifferent about Towns & Okafor and wants to see if he can make Hinkie nervous enough for him to trade a couple future firsts to move up two spots?

Feilong · Post #1820 » by **Feilong** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 10:40 am

Foye wrote:
theGreatRC wrote:I don't know what's going on, but i'm confident we aren't taking a PG #1. We're going Okafor/Towns. Not only are they the two best prospects, but they also fill positions that we need the most as well.

Maybe he is indifferent about Towns & Okafor and wants to see if he can make Hinkie nervous enough for him to trade a couple future firsts to move up two spots?

Nervous about what? OK let's say we draft Mudiay and LAL Towns/Okafor. You mean PHI will feel bad to have Russell or whose left from Towns/Okafor?
More and more rumors about Ricky. Ricky says it's not from him or his agent, and i believe him. So from where are these rumors coming? I guess Flip.