Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick?

TRKO · Post #1821 » by **TRKO** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 11:15 am

I don't mind them looking at Mudiay, I think it would be foolish not to. They need to bring in Porzingis too. I really like Rubio, but his shooting and durability issues don't make him untouchable.

jpatrick · Post #1822 » by **jpatrick** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 11:25 am

Mudiay = just doing due diligence. Same as them going to Porzingis' workout.

Unless, what happens if NY passes on Mudiay and George Karl prefers a vet PG in Sacramento. Do you offer Rubio, Bjelica, plus other assets for #6 and pair Mudiay with Wiggins, KAT/Oak, Lavine? Flip seems to prefer an offensive PG, but that'd be a lot of youth.

Post #1823 » by **Klomp** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 12:37 pm

Note30 wrote:I can't handle this at all. I thought the whole Kevin Love trade was bad, but this is MUCH worse.

You thought getting Wiggins for someone who didn't want to be here was bad?

Post #1824 » by **Klomp** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 12:37 pm

TRKO wrote:I don't mind them looking at Mudiay, I think it would be foolish not to.

Exactly.

shangrila · Post #1825 » by **shangrila** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 1:31 pm

jpatrick wrote:Mudiay = just doing due diligence. Same as them going to Porzingis' workout.

Unless, what happens if NY passes on Mudiay and George Karl prefers a vet PG in Sacramento. Do you offer Rubio, Bjelica, plus other assets for #6 and pair Mudiay with Wiggins, KAT/Oak, Lavine? Flip seems to prefer an offensive PG, but that'd be a lot of youth.

That's a tough one. Despite his flaws, Rubio does make the team a hell of a lot better when he's on the court. Can Mudiay do that? I don't know.

I'd definitely be tempted though.

siar617 · Post #1826 » by **siar617** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 2:00 pm

MinotauroBigNog wrote:I'm a Flip supporter but if we end up drafting Mudiay and trading Rubio instead of taking Towns/Okafor..

Thankfully we love our smokescreens

When you have the first pick why would you need a smoke screen.

Murphs56 · Post #1827 » by **Murphs56** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 2:02 pm

The Waiting is the hardest part. Just like when We had to wait the month so we could acquire Wiggins. All kinds of stuff gets posted

TRKO · Post #1828 » by **TRKO** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 2:32 pm

siar617 wrote:
MinotauroBigNog wrote:I'm a Flip supporter but if we end up drafting Mudiay and trading Rubio instead of taking Towns/Okafor..

Thankfully we love our smokescreens

When you have the first pick why would you need a smoke screen.

The only reason for a smoke screen would be to drum up trade interest.

Post #1829 » by **C.lupus** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 2:34 pm

Note30 wrote:I can't handle this at all. I thought the whole Kevin Love trade was bad, but this is MUCH worse.

I'd much rather have my POBO doing his due diligence and looking at all of the top candidates than making his mind up a month before the draft. But maybe that's just me.

You have to be prepared. The guy you like could injure himself, trade opportunities can come up. You never know what can happen.

Post #1830 » by **The J Rocka** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 3:08 pm

If there's a John Wall vibe with Mudiay and he checks out, I assume he wouldn't slip past the Knicks.

However, if he's there at 6 and the Kings are looking for a veteran PG, then you have to really think that one over.

It's pretty much playing it safe with Rubio or taking a shot in the dark with Mudiay where he could be a diamond in the rough or be one of the biggest busts. Tough call. You would have no choice but to trust the coaching staff on that call.

TRKO · Post #1831 » by **TRKO** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 3:15 pm

The J Rocka wrote:If there's a John Wall vibe with Mudiay and he checks out, I assume he wouldn't slip past the Knicks.

However, if he's there at 6 and the Kings are looking for a veteran PG, then you have to really think that one over.

It's pretty much playing it safe with Rubio or taking a shot in the dark with Mudiay where he could be a diamond in the rough or be one of the biggest busts. Tough call. You would have no choice but to trust the coaching staff on that call.

That's why you do the research. If I knew Rubio would stay healthy it would be an easy decision.

siar617 · Post #1832 » by **siar617** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 3:23 pm

TRKO wrote:
siar617 wrote:
MinotauroBigNog wrote:I'm a Flip supporter but if we end up drafting Mudiay and trading Rubio instead of taking Towns/Okafor..

Thankfully we love our smokescreens

When you have the first pick why would you need a smoke screen.

The only reason for a smoke screen would be to drum up trade interest.

First pick=full control. You can simply call any Gm and make any trade you want. You want Mudaiy you take towns and trade him to the Knicks for Mudiay and what ever else youcan steal from them

TRKO · Post #1833 » by **TRKO** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 3:49 pm

siar617 wrote:
TRKO wrote:
siar617 wrote:
When you have the first pick why would you need a smoke screen.

The only reason for a smoke screen would be to drum up trade interest.

First pick=full control. You can simply call any Gm and make any trade you want. You want Mudaiy you take towns and trade him to the Knicks for Mudiay and what ever else youcan steal from them

Unfortunately the Knicks have nothing of value.

LaViggins · Post #1834 » by **LaViggins** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 3:55 pm

Dont worry about Mudiay, its the advantage of having the #1 pick.

wildvikeswolves · Post #1835 » by **wildvikeswolves** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 4:42 pm

I think Mudiay is one of the more important guys to workout. He's been near the top of draft boards all year despite being one of the bigger unknowns after playing in a lesser competitive China league. Glad Flip is doing his homework

kmgarnett21 · Post #1836 » by **kmgarnett21** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 5:30 pm

All this talk of taking Towns and then trading Rubio + assets for Mudiay....I thought we needed to get a little older, not younger. I know the durability concerns with Ricky are there, but I take Towns and be happy from there (unless something ridiculous presents itself).

The Wolves are going to do their due diligence on Mudiay, Porzingis, Russell, etc. You never know what could happen. But I seriously doubt they take Mudiay #1 over Towns. If they do, there will be a lot of 'splaining to do.

funkatron101 · Post #1837 » by **funkatron101** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 5:49 pm

kmgarnett21 wrote:The Wolves are going to do their due diligence on Mudiay, Porzingis, Russell, etc. You never know what could happen. But I seriously doubt they take Mudiay #1 over Towns. If they do, there will be a lot of 'splaining to do.

You just never know with the draft. What if the Wolves would have reached by taking Paul George over Wes Johnson? Klay Thompson or Kawhi Leonard over Derrick Williams?

In three years we could be pondering what could have been if they only took Mudiay or Russell instead of that bust Towns (or Okafor).

It's enough to make a person go mad. It's considered a strong draft with no absolute #1 pick.

TRKO · Post #1838 » by **TRKO** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 6:03 pm

funkatron101 wrote:
kmgarnett21 wrote:The Wolves are going to do their due diligence on Mudiay, Porzingis, Russell, etc. You never know what could happen. But I seriously doubt they take Mudiay #1 over Towns. If they do, there will be a lot of 'splaining to do.

You just never know with the draft. What if the Wolves would have reached by taking Paul George over Wes Johnson? Klay Thompson or Kawhi Leonard over Derrick Williams?

In three years we could be pondering what could have been if they only took Mudiay or Russell instead of that bust Towns (or Okafor).

It's enough to make a person go mad. It's considered a strong draft with no absolute #1 pick.

Totally agree. You can't go by what the media or fans are telling you to do. You have to make the right decision long term, not the popular win on draft night decision.

mondry · Post #1839 » by **mondry** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 6:06 pm

Personally I think Towns is the pretty easy #1 pick in this draft. With that said, 2-5 are all literally the same to me, Okafor, Russell, Mudiay, and Porzingis would all be fantastic players to get anyone of them with the #5 pick and someone will do just that. Heck you even go another step down and you've got WCS, Winslow, and Hezonja and any one of them could be a perennial all star it looks like too.

I'm happy to have the #1 pick as long as we get towns or a beastly trade down but if there was any year to not win the lottery and not feel horrible about it this one would have been it. If it was some how theoretically possible to trade down and get like #4 and #6 I would probably do that in a heart beat. If you could come away with Porzingis and WCS for example our starting 5 would be set and think about the rim protection those 2 bigs would offer! Suddenly you don't really care if Lavine can play defense as long as he goes crazy on offense.

funkatron101 · Post #1840 » by **funkatron101** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 6:25 pm

mondry wrote:Personally I think Towns is the pretty easy #1 pick in this draft. With that said, 2-5 are all literally the same to me, Okafor, Russell, Mudiay, and Porzingis would all be fantastic players to get anyone of them with the #5 pick and someone will do just that. Heck you even go another step down and you've got WCS, Winslow, and Hezonja and any one of them could be a perennial all star it looks like too.

I can only think of a few instances in which I would define a clear-cut absolute #1 pick.
Shaq
Anthony Davis
Tim Duncan
Blake Griffin

Many other years I've had some doubts, even if they were minor.

Perhaps I'm just being revisionist knowing how these guys played out. But I guess the fact that they are all big men bodes well for us?