Pistons may not chase RFAs

[sc8581]

That 72 hour crap bothers me

It used to be something like 10, believe it or not.

Oh I know, I've been around a while lol

[ElectricMayhem]

♪Don't go chasing RFAs, please stick to the UFAs and draft picks you're used to.♬

[sc8581]

♪Don't go chasing RFAs, please stick to the UFAs and draft picks you're used to.♬

Lmmfao you ain't right

[kurtis48239]

Green isn't happening. Middleton? Maybe. Harris? Maybe.

But SVG doesn't seem like he needs to throw MAX money around like Dumars did. Stan probably feels like he can coach players "up", so he's probably looking for good values and a certain type of player.

I agree with you lip,I see that as stans mentality.He certainly has the talent to do it.What sucks is it can take awhile to get your team playing as a legit contender doing it like that,but it makes for the best teams.I can see stan looking at quincy as someone he can mold in that light.

[Blkbrd671]

I found this nugget in Vince Ellis' Arn Tellum article

A person with firsthand knowledge of the Pistons' off-season plans said signing Green is not realistic because they expect the Warriors, playing in the NBA Finals and working for a new arena, to match any offer sheet. The person, not publicly authorized to discuss the team's plans, said that the Pistons do not want to tie up salary cap space for 72 hours – the time allotted the Warriors to match any offer – when more easily obtainable free agents might be available.

Sounds like D.Green is not likely, but also sounds like RFAs won't be targeted since Pistons don't want to tie up cap for 3 days. On Twitter, Ellis said that this was only applicable to Draymond Green though so who knows if SVG chases some RFAs that are more attainable. Id have to think that Harris and Middleton are out of the question though.

i do believe that teams are discussing S&T prior to the opening of FA period, so if we already have a agreement with the team in place, then there is no need to wait to agree. I am just saying it doesn't take it completely off the table. No team wants cap space tied up long

[sfballa13]

Middleton at near max or Danny Green for $10 mil per?

What's better for us?

With $20 mil in space we could get Aminu & Danny Green after drafting Winslow/Johnson/Portis...

Drum/Anthony
Tolliver/Aminu
Green/Aminu/Martin
KCP/Meeks
RJ/BJ/Dinwiddie

Throw in #8...

Drummond, Aminu, Green, KCP, RJ...probably enough spacing there to play that group together assuming development from KCP & RJ

Replace Aminu with Tolliver and there's plenty of spacing!

Middleton at max is better than Green + Aminu

We need to stop paying role players big money it's what has held us back all these years going back to the championship days of us throwing $ down the drain on Nazr, Charlie V, Maxiell, Bynum, and the list goes on and on.

[MotownMadness]

Middleton at near max or Danny Green for $10 mil per?

What's better for us?

With $20 mil in space we could get Aminu & Danny Green after drafting Winslow/Johnson/Portis...

Drum/Anthony
Tolliver/Aminu
Green/Aminu/Martin
KCP/Meeks
RJ/BJ/Dinwiddie

Throw in #8...

Drummond, Aminu, Green, KCP, RJ...probably enough spacing there to play that group together assuming development from KCP & RJ

Replace Aminu with Tolliver and there's plenty of spacing!

Middleton at max is better than Green + Aminu

We need to stop paying role players big money it's what has held us back all these years going back to the championship days of us throwing $ down the drain on Nazr, Charlie V, Maxiell, Bynum, and the list goes on and on.

I would consider Middleton a role player as well. He's younger then Green and will get payed more but he's really not any better to make him on a max more valuable then Danny Green at 9-10 per. They are both really just 3&D role players. Except Green has won Championships and played extremely well many times in the playoffs. Let's compare the numbers and you decide which is the bigger overpay.

Danny Green- in 28mpg
11.7ppg, 44 fg%, 42 3pt%
4.2 rpg
2.0 apg
1.2 stls
1.1 blks
16.5 PER
4.0 OWS
3.9 DWS
2.2 DPBM

Khris Middleton- in 30.1mpg
13.4ppg, 46 fg%, 40 3pt%
4.4 rpg
2.3 apg
1.5 stls
0.1 blks
15.6 PER
3.2 OWS
3.5 DWS
0.5 DPBM

Like i said they are essentially the same type of player that brings the same type of role. Good 3 point shooting with good Defense. But Green will come cheaper and brings a ton more winning experience and has shown how clutch of a shooter he can be in the big game. And actually I guess you could say Green is the better defender and 3 pt shooter.

[MrBigShot]

I see Middleton as a guy whose game is less reliant on system and the players around him, and he's got some better shot creation ability. Danny Green has had the benefit of playing in an excellent offensive system with Dunca, Kawhi, TP and Manu and he gets quite a few open looks. The Bucks were pretty abysmal offensively this year as far as I remember...their defense was their calling card.

After Knight left, post all star break Middleton dropped a cool 17/4/3 without much drop in efficiency...I don't know how the Bucks view him, but I'd take him at 15 mil/year knowing the cap will rise over Danny Green on a 9-10 mil per contract.

[RSCD3_]

Green aint giving up almost 100 million dollars to play for the QO

Especially when he's on a upper tier champion level squad

[sc8581]

Green aint giving up almost 100 million dollars to play for the QO

Especially when he's on a upper tier champion level squad

He could sign the QO and make a lot more next summer, a whole lot more, so you never know.

[AussieAsh13]

Middleton at near max or Danny Green for $10 mil per?

What's better for us?

With $20 mil in space we could get Aminu & Danny Green after drafting Winslow/Johnson/Portis...

Drum/Anthony
Tolliver/Aminu
Green/Aminu/Martin
KCP/Meeks
RJ/BJ/Dinwiddie

Throw in #8...

Drummond, Aminu, Green, KCP, RJ...probably enough spacing there to play that group together assuming development from KCP & RJ

Replace Aminu with Tolliver and there's plenty of spacing!

Middleton at max is better than Green + Aminu

We need to stop paying role players big money it's what has held us back all these years going back to the championship days of us throwing $ down the drain on Nazr, Charlie V, Maxiell, Bynum, and the list goes on and on.

I would consider Middleton a role player as well. He's younger then Green and will get payed more but he's really not any better to make him on a max more valuable then Danny Green at 9-10 per. They are both really just 3&D role players. Except Green has won Championships and played extremely well many times in the playoffs. Let's compare the numbers and you decide which is the bigger overpay.

Danny Green- in 28mpg
11.7ppg, 44 fg%, 42 3pt%
4.2 rpg
2.0 apg
1.2 stls
1.1 blks
16.5 PER
4.0 OWS
3.9 DWS
2.2 DPBM

Khris Middleton- in 30.1mpg
13.4ppg, 46 fg%, 40 3pt%
4.4 rpg
2.3 apg
1.5 stls
0.1 blks
15.6 PER
3.2 OWS
3.5 DWS
0.5 DPBM

Like i said they are essentially the same type of player that brings the same type of role. Good 3 point shooting with good Defense. But Green will come cheaper and brings a ton more winning experience and has shown how clutch of a shooter he can be in the big game. And actually I guess you could say Green is the better defender and 3 pt shooter.

Wow I didn't realise how similar they were!

In saying this though, I would take Middleton, no questions asked. Purely because he is younger.
Assuming we do sign him, He will mature with our young core and they will all peak at the same time.. and my god that would be scary!

[DetroitSho]

♪Don't go chasing RFAs, please stick to the UFAs and draft picks you're used to.♬

I actually read this in the same cadence the song is in. Lol

[Blkbrd671]

♪Don't go chasing RFAs, please stick to the UFAs and draft picks you're used to.♬

I actually read this in the same cadence the song is in. Lol

i think its impossible not too