2015-16 Fake Trade Thread

[BeesWax]

You're on the right board if you're looking to trade Lamb. There are quite a few posters on here that would more than likely Trade the 9 straight up for Lamb.

I am not a go get Lamb guy but this trade isn't bad. Lamb and Novack are useful and flip Waiters for whatever scraps you can get. Draft Grant or Payne at 14 and be happy.

I think its a solid trade, and to be honest I would do it.

My problem is I do not want Waiters at all. I think the value is right but I do not want another no shooting SG. If he can be flipped somewhere for a small asset I am in.

[Braggins]

Waiters is one of the last players I'd want here. If we could involve a third team to take Waiters and and/or get something else instead then that I could get behind that, assuming Hezonja and Porzingis aren't available at 9. i wouldn't even trade Lance for Waiters straight up.

[BeesWax]

Waiters is one of the last players I'd want here. If we could involve a third team to take Waiters and and/or get something else instead then that I could get behind that, assuming Hezonja and Porzingis aren't available at 9. i wouldn't even trade Lance for Waiters straight up.

Maybe somebody like the Lakers take a chance on him. Our second and Waiters for a late first maybe.

[Liver_Pooty]

Waiters is one of the last players I'd want here. If we could involve a third team to take Waiters and and/or get something else instead then that I could get behind that, assuming Hezonja and Porzingis aren't available at 9. i wouldn't even trade Lance for Waiters straight up.

Maybe somebody like the Lakers take a chance on him. Our second and Waiters for a late first maybe.

Waiters is talented. Hes just a dumbass. Literally. Even worse than Stephenson. If he were to go to a solid organization like the Spurs he'd probably blow up.

[JDR720]

Waiters is one of the last players I'd want here. If we could involve a third team to take Waiters and and/or get something else instead then that I could get behind that, assuming Hezonja and Porzingis aren't available at 9. i wouldn't even trade Lance for Waiters straight up.

Maybe somebody like the Lakers take a chance on him. Our second and Waiters for a late first maybe.

Waiters and 39 for Young and 27?

[Liver_Pooty]

Waiters is one of the last players I'd want here. If we could involve a third team to take Waiters and and/or get something else instead then that I could get behind that, assuming Hezonja and Porzingis aren't available at 9. i wouldn't even trade Lance for Waiters straight up.

Maybe somebody like the Lakers take a chance on him. Our second and Waiters for a late first maybe.

Waiters and 39 for Young and 27?

Id rather hang myself than have Young on this team. Literally.

[BeesWax]

Maybe somebody like the Lakers take a chance on him. Our second and Waiters for a late first maybe.

Waiters and 39 for Young and 27?

Id rather hang myself than have Young on this team. Literally.

He may be one of the few players I would want less than Waiters.

[Braggins]

I actually expect a decent year from Lance and don't really have much interest in trading him unless we get an obviously good deal. I think he will be healthy and much more comfortable/focused next season. I expect him to defend at a much higher level and not make as many bad decisions. It is hard to tell what is going to happen with his shot, but it can't get any worse.

[JDR720]

Now, maybe we can do a different trade back trade with OKC

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9th and Marvin for 14th, McGary and Waiters

[Braggins]

My concern about trading back to 14 is that we would miss out on Oubre and Booker. If we trade back that far we are probably getting a backup PG, which is not what I want out of this draft. I would only want to trade back as far as Oubre slides.

[BeesWax]

Now, maybe we can do a different trade back trade with OKC

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9th and Marvin for 14th, McGary and Waiters

I could really go for that. Mitch has NBA center strength and he and Biz could be our future there. Now my caveat of trading Waiters away for something would still stand.

[SeanBobcats]

I think we should really push to see if we can trade up two spots to get Denver's pick. Hezonja and/or Winslow will likely be available and the two of them both fill a definite need.

[BeesWax]

I think we should really push to see if we can trade up two spots to get Denver's pick. Hezonja and/or Winslow will likely be available and the two of them both fill a definite need.

We are not so talented that we have pieces to give away just to move up for average players. While Winslow is above average he is not a great fit here because he can't shoot either. We should really stay where we are or trade back and pick up multiple pieces.

[Braggins]

I think we should really push to see if we can trade up two spots to get Denver's pick. Hezonja and/or Winslow will likely be available and the two of them both fill a definite need.

We are not so talented that we have pieces to give away just to move up for average players. While Winslow is above average he is not a great fit here because he can't shoot either. We should really stay where we are or trade back and pick up multiple pieces.

We have some pieces we can live with giving up and the draft is basically our only way to improve the roster this off-season. It is long overdue that we do something to address our lack of wing shooting. Most people disagree with your take on Hezonja. Some would argue he is the best wing in the draft. I would rather trade up if we find a reasonable then trade back. I am fine with staying at 9, but we shouldn't rule out moving up.

[LofJ]

I've said this before but Sacramento is our best shot at trading up. If WCS is their top target and he's still on the board at 6 it's not unreasonable to think he'll slide to us at 9. If Winslow is their top target and still there a trade won't happen. If we want a trade to happen we have to hope they really like WCS and he doesn't get drafted by the Knicks or Magic.

[BuzzCity]

I've said this before but Sacramento is our best shot at trading up. If WCS is their top target and he's still on the board at 6 it's not unreasonable to think he'll slide to us at 9. If Winslow is their top target and still there a trade won't happen. If we want a trade to happen we have to hope they really like WCS and he doesn't get drafted by the Knicks or Magic.

Couldn't agree more about literally everything u said in this post. Denver has a bunch of expirings this year so nothing we could really do to help them out. The Kings have Landry. I'd be shocked right now if Cho hasn't already told them that if WCS is still on the board at 6, we will trade you Marvin & 9 for Landry and 7...Nuggets have Nurkic and Pistons have Drummond at Center...two young and talented centers...they have far more holes on their team to fill, so I don't see them drafting WCS.

But honestly, I think we need both Mudiay and Winslow to be drafted in the top 5. I get nervous that NY isn't drafting him at 4 because all the comments made by Phil and Melo that it's better to get a veteran free agent than thru the draft. So we need the draft to go 1 of 2 ways:

Scenario 1

Wolves- Towns
Lakers- Okafor
76ers- Mudiay
Knicks- Russell
Magic- Winslow
*Hornets- Hezonja
Nuggets- Stanley Johnson
Pistons- Porzingis
*Kings- WCS

Scenario 2

Wolves- Towns
Lakers- Okafor
76ers- Russell
Knicks- Winslow
Magic- Mudiay (Highly doubt they'd do this)
*Hornets- Hezonja
Nuggets- Stanley Johnson
Pistons- Porzingis
*Kings- WCS

Worst fear Scenario

Wolves- Towns
Lakers- Okafor
76ers- Russell
Knicks- WCS
Magic- Winslow
Kings- Mudiay
Nuggets- Hezonja
Pistons- Stanley Johnson
Hornets- Porzingis (not cuz I think he will be a huge bust, but because he's still several years away from actually making an impact AND we have Vonleh and Zeller)

[BeesWax]

I think we should really push to see if we can trade up two spots to get Denver's pick. Hezonja and/or Winslow will likely be available and the two of them both fill a definite need.

We are not so talented that we have pieces to give away just to move up for average players. While Winslow is above average he is not a great fit here because he can't shoot either. We should really stay where we are or trade back and pick up multiple pieces.

We have some pieces we can live with giving up and the draft is basically our only way to improve the roster this off-season. It is long overdue that we do something to address our lack of wing shooting. Most people disagree with your take on Hezonja. Some would argue he is the best wing in the draft. I would rather trade up if we find a reasonable then trade back. I am fine with staying at 9, but we shouldn't rule out moving up.

As long as we don't include Kemba, Zeller, Vonleh, MKG, Biz or a future first then fine. If any of that has to go out the price is far to high unless we get to Russell.

[LofJ]

I've said this before but Sacramento is our best shot at trading up. If WCS is their top target and he's still on the board at 6 it's not unreasonable to think he'll slide to us at 9. If Winslow is their top target and still there a trade won't happen. If we want a trade to happen we have to hope they really like WCS and he doesn't get drafted by the Knicks or Magic.

Couldn't agree more about literally everything u said in this post. Denver has a bunch of expirings this year so nothing we could really do to help them out. The Kings have Landry. I'd be shocked right now if Cho hasn't already told them that if WCS is still on the board at 6, we will trade you Marvin & 9 for Landry and 7...Nuggets have Nurkic and Pistons have Drummond at Center...two young and talented centers...they have far more holes on their team to fill, so I don't see them drafting WCS.

But honestly, I think we need both Mudiay and Winslow to be drafted in the top 5. I get nervous that NY isn't drafting him at 4 because all the comments made by Phil and Melo that it's better to get a veteran free agent than thru the draft. So we need the draft to go 1 of 2 ways:

Scenario 1

Wolves- Towns
Lakers- Okafor
76ers- Mudiay
Knicks- Russell
Magic- Winslow
*Hornets- Hezonja
Nuggets- Stanley Johnson
Pistons- Porzingis
*Kings- WCS

Scenario 2

Wolves- Towns
Lakers- Okafor
76ers- Russell
Knicks- Winslow
Magic- Mudiay (Highly doubt they'd do this)
*Hornets- Hezonja
Nuggets- Stanley Johnson
Pistons- Porzingis
*Kings- WCS

Worst fear Scenario

Wolves- Towns
Lakers- Okafor
76ers- Russell
Knicks- WCS
Magic- Winslow
Kings- Mudiay
Nuggets- Hezonja
Pistons- Stanley Johnson
Hornets- Porzingis (not cuz I think he will be a huge bust, but because he's still several years away from actually making an impact AND we have Vonleh and Zeller)

That last one is definitely the worst case scenario. I really hope the Magic decide that Porzingis' fit with their roster is too good to pass up, otherwise we might be in trouble.

[yosemiteben]

If Sacramento wants WCS that's who they should draft. If they drafted Hezonja to pick him up and hold him ransom for a trade, why wouldn't Denver just draft WCS and do the trade themselves?

[LofJ]

If Sacramento wants WCS that's who they should draft. If they drafted Hezonja to pick him up and hold him ransom for a trade, why wouldn't Denver just draft WCS and do the trade themselves?

Nothing is stopping them, but they'll have to be willing to give up extra value and pass on Winslow, Mudiay, or Porzingis to make that trade. I'm not sure they'd be willing to do that.