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RealGM 2015 Fan Forum Mock Draft - PHO #13

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Based on this scenario, who should be your pick?

Poll ended at Mon Jun 8, 2015 8:55 pm

Kelly Oubre
0
No votes
Frank Kaminsky
16
64%
Cameron Payne
2
8%
Sam Dekker
0
No votes
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
1
4%
Kevon Looney
4
16%
Bobby Portis
2
8%
Jerian Grant
0
No votes
Tyus Jones
0
No votes
Justin Anderson
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 25

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RealGM 2015 Fan Forum Mock Draft - PHO #13 

Post#1 » by Laimbeer » Sun Jun 7, 2015 8:55 pm

The following choices have been made by other fan forums...

1 MIN Karl Anthony Towns
2 LAL Jahlil Okafor
3 PHI D'Angelo Russell
4 NYK Emmanuel Mudiay
5 ORL Justise Winslow
6 SAC Willie Cauley-Stein
7 DEN Mario Hezonja
8 DET Stanley Johnson
9 CHA Kristaps Porzingis
10 MIA Devin Booker
11 IND Trey Lyles
12 UTA Myles Turner
13 PHX
14 OKC
15 ATL 
16 BOS
17 MIL
18 HOU
19 WAS
20 TOR
21 DAL
22 CHI
23 POR
24 CLE
25 MEM
26 SAS
27 LAL
28 BOS
29 BKN 
30 GSW
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1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
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Post#2 » by RaisingArizona » Sun Jun 7, 2015 11:42 pm

We would take Frank if the board ended up like this.
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Post#3 » by Laimbeer » Mon Jun 8, 2015 12:02 am

ginobiliflops wrote:We would take Frank if the board ended up like this.


Looks like it, but is seems Looney is tracking very close in your original forum poll. Also several players there aren't available in this one scored a decent number of votes. So I thought a redo was needed to really determine who the preference would be of these.
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Post#4 » by Qwigglez » Mon Jun 8, 2015 12:55 am

Gotta agree with GFlops. Frank it is if that's the board.
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Post#5 » by kennydorglas » Mon Jun 8, 2015 5:28 am

sry Rondae, Looney. it's Kaminsky
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Post#6 » by RaisingArizona » Mon Jun 8, 2015 5:45 am

The highest I've seen RHJ go is 22 in the mocks. Is there something I don't know? I think that'd be quite the reach at 13.
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Post#7 » by Flying Colors » Mon Jun 8, 2015 5:50 am

Frank the tank
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Post#8 » by kennydorglas » Mon Jun 8, 2015 6:52 am

ginobiliflops wrote:The highest I've seen RHJ go is 22 in the mocks. Is there something I don't know? I think that'd be quite the reach at 13.


I dont care about mocks at all, but DX has him at 15.
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Post#9 » by Frank Lee » Mon Jun 8, 2015 11:39 am

Qwigglez wrote:Gotta agree with GFlops. Frank it is if that's the board.



There is only room for one Frank around here.

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Post#10 » by STEV13 » Mon Jun 8, 2015 12:42 pm

Damn I'd be stoked if we land Kaminsky on draft night. Unfortunately I think some team might grab him in the Top 10.
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Post#11 » by bwgood77 » Mon Jun 8, 2015 3:30 pm

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ginobiliflops wrote:We would take Frank if the board ended up like this.


Looks like it, but is seems Looney is tracking very close in your original forum poll. Also several players there aren't available in this one scored a decent number of votes. So I thought a redo was needed to really determine who the preference would be of these.


But our original poll allowed users to pick their top 3 choices. This shows that Looney wasn't #1 with most of those users. I am a little surprised it is this lopsided, but I think some things have been realized lately that took away from Looney, like the fact he has asthma.
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Post#12 » by RaisingArizona » Mon Jun 8, 2015 3:50 pm

kennydorglas wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:The highest I've seen RHJ go is 22 in the mocks. Is there something I don't know? I think that'd be quite the reach at 13.


I dont care about mocks at all, but DX has him at 15.


Ok, thanks. I agree mocks don't mean all that much but it can help gauge where thing may go. I was wondering if he was rising as of late due to the draft workouts? Any info on this, Kenny?
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Post#13 » by RaisingArizona » Mon Jun 8, 2015 3:52 pm

This reminds me of the one year we all wanted Jeremy Lamb and OKC took him before our pick and we got Marshall, lol. Just waiting for Utah to take Frank.
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Post#14 » by bwgood77 » Mon Jun 8, 2015 4:00 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:We would take Frank if the board ended up like this.


I've always felt Frank isn't the type of guy McD would draft (I don't think he's ever been involved with picking a 4 year guy) and he always talks about taking the guy with the highest upside.

If Frank is there and we pass him up this board is going to go nuts. I'd be ok if we took Turner or Looney though.
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Post#15 » by RaisingArizona » Mon Jun 8, 2015 4:07 pm

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ginobiliflops wrote:We would take Frank if the board ended up like this.


I've always felt Frank isn't the type of guy McD would draft (I don't think he's ever been involved with picking a 4 year guy) and he always talks about taking the guy with the highest upside.

If Frank is there and we pass him up this board is going to go nuts. I'd be ok if we took Turner or Looney though.


True, but I also believe he's the most ready to contribute out of the bunch too. He could be a rotation guy from the start. I think a little pressure is on Jeff and McD to make the playoffs. I don't think a project makes much sense this year. Maybe with the 2nd rounder.
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Post#16 » by SideSwipe » Mon Jun 8, 2015 4:29 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:This reminds me of the one year we all wanted Jeremy Lamb and OKC took him before our pick and we got Marshall, lol. Just waiting for Utah to take Frank.


Yeah, it's a problem, because Frank would fit in well with the UTA team as well, I think. Front line of Gobert and Favors with Franks shooting off the bench. That's a lot of length.
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Post#17 » by ATTL » Mon Jun 8, 2015 5:52 pm

At this point I would stay away from Looney because of his asthma. I would look at him if we picked up a later pick some how.

I'd take Frank or Portis with our top pick.
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Post#18 » by bwgood77 » Mon Jun 8, 2015 6:11 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:We would take Frank if the board ended up like this.


I've always felt Frank isn't the type of guy McD would draft (I don't think he's ever been involved with picking a 4 year guy) and he always talks about taking the guy with the highest upside.

If Frank is there and we pass him up this board is going to go nuts. I'd be ok if we took Turner or Looney though.


True, but I also believe he's the most ready to contribute out of the bunch too. He could be a rotation guy from the start. I think a little pressure is on Jeff and McD to make the playoffs. I don't think a project makes much sense this year. Maybe with the 2nd rounder.


I agree. Especially since they have talked about not getting another vet. I think McD realizes how tough it is for Hornacek to get raw players year after year. Maybe every other year. And of course he's talked about getting vets. Frank got coached by a very good defensive coach for four years.
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Post#19 » by bwgood77 » Mon Jun 8, 2015 6:12 pm

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ginobiliflops wrote:This reminds me of the one year we all wanted Jeremy Lamb and OKC took him before our pick and we got Marshall, lol. Just waiting for Utah to take Frank.


Yeah, it's a problem, because Frank would fit in well with the UTA team as well, I think. Front line of Gobert and Favors with Franks shooting off the bench. That's a lot of length.


Yes, I think Utah will take him. If we really want to move up, I wouldn't be surprised if we tried to move up to 11. Indiana could take him too since they want to move on from Hibbert and want to compete immediately.
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Post#20 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Mon Jun 8, 2015 6:21 pm

If this were the board, I'm confident we'd take Cam Payne. There's just no way he drops past Indiana, IMO.

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