OKC Thunder Offseason 2015

[sg1]

Adding Monty and Borrego as assistants are very good moves.

Every coach that sits on the front row will have college or NBA head coaching experience.


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[Zagor]

Borrego is known for his knowledge of defense.
I'm sure this is Monty's advice. They are both from Pop tree. Problem is in Alvin Gentry. He also wants him as assistant for defense,maybe even as his lead assistant. With Donovan, Borrego would be third option(Monty and Grant in front of him).

I checked about him and his preferred style of defense. Oladipo and Payton were very agressive on the ball and in pick n' roll defense,and they were excellent.
Russ and Roberson could do that.
For me Borrego is better option than guys who were mentioned(Keefe,Greer and Tibbets).

[bondom34]

Borrego is known for his knowledge of defense.
I'm sure this is Monty's advice. They are both from Pop tree. Problem is in Alvin Gentry. He also wants him as assistant for defense,maybe even as his lead assistant. With Donovan, Borrego would be third option(Monty and Grant in front of him).

I checked about him and his preferred style of defense. Oladipo and Payton were very agressive on the ball and in pick n' roll defense,and they were excellent.
Russ and Roberson could do that.
For me Borrego is better option than guys who were mentioned(Keefe,Greer and Tibbets).

Agree, but he'd be third fiddle in NO too. The Pels already hired Darren Erman as a defensive specialist.

[sg1]

Grant is going to be the 4th fiddle on the Thunder staff.


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[KD35Brah]

Borrego is known for his knowledge of defense.
I'm sure this is Monty's advice. They are both from Pop tree. Problem is in Alvin Gentry. He also wants him as assistant for defense,maybe even as his lead assistant. With Donovan, Borrego would be third option(Monty and Grant in front of him).

I checked about him and his preferred style of defense. Oladipo and Payton were very agressive on the ball and in pick n' roll defense,and they were excellent.
Russ and Roberson could do that.
For me Borrego is better option than guys who were mentioned(Keefe,Greer and Tibbets).

How did you come to this conclusion?

Are you basing this off his time in SA? How come hae hasn't been able to replicate that type of defensive success anyhwere else?

[Zagor]

Agree, but he'd be third fiddle in NO too. The Pels already hired Darren Erman as a defensive specialist.

I didn't know that,but Gentry obviously wants him for something. Last two,three years his name was always among few assistant coaches who were predicted to become next head coaches.

Grant is going to be the 4th fiddle on the Thunder staff.
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On the paper yes,but put yourself in Donovan's position. He will always discuss every decision with guy who he trust the most.
So Grant is not your typical 4th fiddle coach.

How did you come to this conclusion?
Are you basing this off his time in SA? How come hae hasn't been able to replicate that type of defensive success anyhwere else?

Conclusion that he is a very good defensive specialist?
Well,I'm not saying he is class of Ron Adams(probably there is no such assistant except Adams) but there are lot of information which says about Borrego as someone who knows how to construct good defense.
Look at Orlando,with him as head coach they were able to play very good defense and we need to have on mind their very young roster, with no big man who can protect the paint.
You can't point finger at his history of succes because he was with Monty in New Orleans between 2010. and 2012. and we know what was happening at that time.
In Orlando,he had very bad roster except last season, in which Borrego based defense on his two guards(Oladipo and Payton).

If Presti and Donovan want him,they sure know about him and his qualities.

[bondom34]

Agree, but he'd be third fiddle in NO too. The Pels already hired Darren Erman as a defensive specialist.

I didn't know that,but Gentry obviously wants him for something. Last two,three years his name was always among few assistant coaches who were predicted to become next head coaches.

True, but its good to want a guy in demand, just hoping OKC is the job he wants. Supposedly on the Magic board they said Skiles told Borrego he's free to take the OKC job or stay, but they didn't even mention the Pels offer.

[sg1]

Borrego has an impeccable resume.

He will make a good addition to the staff.

Adams and Gentry are good coaches, but I think they are being overhyped a bit because I think Kerr is one hell of a coach.

If the Thunder had been bounced by the Grizz last year I wonder what might have been if Brooks was replaced by Kerr last year.


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[Born_Ready]

With Darn Erman landing in New Orleans (being the highly touted defensive guru that he is) I would hope Borrego would consider working under Monty or with him again in opposed to working under Erman. That would give BD 2 assistants that have been HC in the league. That would be a staff like no other. I hope Presti and company can find a way to lure James Borrego to the staff making his addition to the staff complete with knowledge and experience.

[Balkman32]

What guys can we bring in to help at at SG/SF this year? We really need to be able to run a line up with Ibaka and Druant at the 5 and 4. Then Russ at the 1. But, who can play next to these guys on the wings. We either need new guys or someone to step up.

[sg1]

With Darn Erman landing in New Orleans (being the highly touted defensive guru that he is) I would hope Borrego would consider working under Monty or with him again in opposed to working under Erman. That would give BD 2 assistants that have been HC in the league. That would be a staff like no other. I hope Presti and company can find a way to lure James Borrego to the staff making his addition to the staff complete with knowledge and experience.

Plus Grant was a head coach in college.

All three primary assistants will have head coaching experience in either college or the NBA.


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[Zagor]

What guys can we bring in to help at at SG/SF this year? We really need to be able to run a line up with Ibaka and Druant at the 5 and 4. Then Russ at the 1. But, who can play next to these guys on the wings. We either need new guys or someone to step up.

Well, example 1: Russ,Morrow,Stanley Johnson,Durant,Ibaka
Example 2: Russ,Jerian Grant,Roberson/Morrow,Durant,Ibaka. This lineup reminds me on the one with Reggie and Thabo.

Or you can put Waiters or Singler in lineup.
If we cross the rookie we draft,for me best small lineup would be: Russ,Morrow,Singler,Durant and Ibaka. Deadly offense and spacing.

[Kizz Fastfists]

What guys can we bring in to help at at SG/SF this year? We really need to be able to run a line up with Ibaka and Druant at the 5 and 4. Then Russ at the 1. But, who can play next to these guys on the wings. We either need new guys or someone to step up.

First, why do we need to do this? Ibaka, Adams, Kanter, McGary and Collison should get all the 4/5 minutes. Second, between Augustin, Lamb, Roberson, Waiters, Morrow, PJ3 and Singler they have people that can play the 2/3 as needed. Adding another shooter like Devin Booker as a drive and kick option to go with Morrow would be nice as I think he could out shoot everyone on the team except KD, Morrow and possibly Singler today. A lineup of Russ, Morrow, Booker, KD and Ibaka would be just sick from a shooting stand point as Russ would be the only one on the floor that is a below average shooter. Please do not argue Russ' shooting. He's a GREAT player, but shooting is his weakness especially from 3.

[Balkman32]

What guys can we bring in to help at at SG/SF this year? We really need to be able to run a line up with Ibaka and Druant at the 5 and 4. Then Russ at the 1. But, who can play next to these guys on the wings. We either need new guys or someone to step up.

First, why do we need to do this? Ibaka, Adams, Kanter, McGary and Collison should get all the 4/5 minutes. Second, between Augustin, Lamb, Roberson, Waiters, Morrow, PJ3 and Singler they have people that can play the 2/3 as needed. Adding another shooter like Devin Booker as a drive and kick option to go with Morrow would be nice as I think he could out shoot everyone on the team except KD, Morrow and possibly Singler today. A lineup of Russ, Morrow, Booker, KD and Ibaka would be just sick from a shooting stand point as Russ would be the only one on the floor that is a below average shooter. Please do not argue Russ' shooting. He's a GREAT player, but shooting is his weakness especially from 3.

Because for us to win in this league we have to go small ball w/ Durant @ the 4. Show me a lineup w/ Durant at the 3 that can hang w/ Bogut/ Green/ Barnes/ Klay/ Curry. We don't have it unless you are throwing McGary or Collison on Green. But, then on the offensive end we don't have the floor spacing that I think needs will be a need, not for all lineups but if we are struggling putting two guys on the wings and just telling them to stroke it. I think Morrow and Singler could be one those guys but, they need to be pushed. Lamb looks like he has potential, but never got any burn. Waiters showed some bright spots but, he takes bad shots and shoots it at a low rate. Roberson has an awful shot, he needs to work on it. Augustin is so tiny that he would make Russ guard the 2. I really want someone who can play the 2 or at least guard a taller 2.

I like the sound of Booker and Morrow (he will be 30 at the start of the season) added to those 3. Having two shooters play between Westbrook and Durant, you could just put them in the corner and let them stroke it.

[bondom34]

What guys can we bring in to help at at SG/SF this year? We really need to be able to run a line up with Ibaka and Druant at the 5 and 4. Then Russ at the 1. But, who can play next to these guys on the wings. We either need new guys or someone to step up.

First, why do we need to do this? Ibaka, Adams, Kanter, McGary and Collison should get all the 4/5 minutes. Second, between Augustin, Lamb, Roberson, Waiters, Morrow, PJ3 and Singler they have people that can play the 2/3 as needed. Adding another shooter like Devin Booker as a drive and kick option to go with Morrow would be nice as I think he could out shoot everyone on the team except KD, Morrow and possibly Singler today. A lineup of Russ, Morrow, Booker, KD and Ibaka would be just sick from a shooting stand point as Russ would be the only one on the floor that is a below average shooter. Please do not argue Russ' shooting. He's a GREAT player, but shooting is his weakness especially from 3.

Because for us to win in this league we have to go small ball w/ Durant @ the 4. Show me a lineup w/ Durant at the 3 that can hang w/ Bogut/ Green/ Barnes/ Klay/ Curry. We don't have it unless you are throwing McGary or Collison on Green. But, then on the offensive end we don't have the floor spacing that I think needs will be a need, not for all lineups but if we are struggling putting two guys on the wings and just telling them to stroke it. I think Morrow and Singler could be one those guys but, they need to be pushed. Lamb looks like he has potential, but never got any burn. Waiters showed some bright spots but, he takes bad shots and shoots it at a low rate. Roberson has an awful shot, he needs to work on it. Augustin is so tiny that he would make Russ guard the 2. I really want someone who can play the 2 or at least guard a taller 2.

I like the sound of Booker and Morrow (he will be 30 at the start of the season) added to those 3. Having two shooters play between Westbrook and Durant, you could just put them in the corner and let them stroke it.

We've seen KD at the 4. The defense looks awful because he can't guard anyone at the 4. He's not a 4 unless he gains some size.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Adams banging with Bogut. Ibaka destroying Green on both ends of the court. KD dominating Barnes. Roberson/Morrow on Klay. Russ and Curry being a very good show. I don't want to see KD getting pushed around by Green as that would just end poorly for the Thunder.

[Born_Ready]

With Darn Erman landing in New Orleans (being the highly touted defensive guru that he is) I would hope Borrego would consider working under Monty or with him again in opposed to working under Erman. That would give BD 2 assistants that have been HC in the league. That would be a staff like no other. I hope Presti and company can find a way to lure James Borrego to the staff making his addition to the staff complete with knowledge and experience.

Plus Grant was a head coach in college.

All three primary assistants will have head coaching experience in either college or the NBA.


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Good point. Grant was very good at VCU and somewhat mediocre at Alabama. He and Donovan have a pretty good relationship-- so you know the coaching/trust is there if Billy brought him to the league with him. Kudos to Presti for adding a competent staff to an elite talented team. The path they are on is up-- on paper they should be top contenders for the crown. I'm anxious to see things shake out.

[Balkman32]

We've seen KD at the 4. The defense looks awful because he can't guard anyone at the 4. He's not a 4 unless he gains some size.

He will have to play some 4. Plus, there is always the huge drop off whenever he comes out of the game. They need wings that can score the ball. Unless, a couple of guys develop, they will have to add a wing.

[bondom34]

We've seen KD at the 4. The defense looks awful because he can't guard anyone at the 4. He's not a 4 unless he gains some size.

He will have to play some 4. Plus, there is always the huge drop off whenever he comes out of the game. They need wings that can score the ball. Unless, a couple of guys develop, they will have to add a wing.

It wouldn't hurt, but they're not short either. I don't like Dion at all, so ignoring him they still have Roberson/Morrow/Singler/Lamb, plus whoever they draft. I'd be all for a trade, but KD at the 4 isn't a great option to me.

[spearsy23]

We should be playing small exactly never next year. Green isn't an amazing offensive player that you need to change lineups for.