How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul?

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Was LeBron's Slide Tackle on Steph Curry a Foul?

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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#121 » by patrol345 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:36 am

Warriors are a fun team to watch but the players and their fan base are real cry babies when it comes to fouls. Game one and 2 they constantly complained and whined about foul calls that were fouls their fans were constantly booing about those fouls too. Makes it hard to pull for them from a fan of neither team.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#122 » by leolozon » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:02 pm

So now it's okay to throw yourself on a player as long as you touch the ball first? What kind of stupid rule is that?

Every time Lebron as the ball a player should just throw himself on him and reach for the ball at the same time, as long as the hand makes contact with the ball first it's okay I guess...

I can't believe some of you.

That and it's pretty much worst than what Delly did with Korver...
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#123 » by dautjazz » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:05 pm

Oh whatever, it was one play, game wasn't determined by a single play.
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How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#124 » by Jkam31 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:11 pm

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Nothing this extreme though, this was literally a tackle.


The Iggy rake across the arms in game 2 was just as extreme (and yes, I know bron travelled but were talking about fouls not travels here). Both blatant fouls. Both missed at key moments. Just accept that the reffing is poor in both directions.


According to Cavs fans it's skewed in favor of GS, which I find to be hilarious. It's been equally horrid in both directions.

Mozgov taking 7 step layups, Lebron using his shoulder and forearms to push off on drives, the Iggy hack on Lebron, the Curry tackle, the **** calls are just endless and they go both ways.


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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#125 » by leolozon » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:11 pm

dautjazz wrote:Oh whatever, it was one play, game wasn't determined by a single play.


The point now is that at least 15 people here are saying it's not a foul. These people shouldn't be trusted with their opinion on basketball. Lebron is throwing himself unto Curry and reaching for the ball at the same time...

But yes, bad calls on both ends.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#126 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:14 pm

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LeBron's contact to Curry only came after Curry punched LeBron in the face. So it should've been an offensive foul.

If you believe that and you actually watched the game something is defective about your mind.
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How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#127 » by Jkam31 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:15 pm

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nikster wrote:He had the ball deflected but he was clearly about to get a handle on the ball before he was knocked down

even if you disagree with that, show me one example of a player diving and knocking down a stationary player by taking out his legs and not getting called


Curry didn't have possession and I don't have access to the NBA video library. It's just the way things are called.


I've seen you state this multiple times like it makes sense or something. It doesn't matter if curry had the ball the possession was in GS hands the defender can't knock someone over no matter how much ball he has. How someone can see that and think it's not a fouls is mind boggling.


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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#128 » by TimRobbins » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:19 pm

Jkam31 wrote:I've seen you state this multiple times like it makes sense or something. It doesn't matter if curry had the ball the possession was in GS hands the defender can't knock someone over no matter how much ball he has. How someone can see that and think it's not a fouls is mind boggling.


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You can say it's mind boggling that they don't call it, but they really don't.
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Post#129 » by Jkam31 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:20 pm

antistrat wrote:
1UPZ wrote:It was a good hustle play to tap the ball away, but the after-effect was a foul IMO... took Curry out of balanced by making contact. But hey, its finals ball.


LeBron's contact to Curry only came after Curry punched LeBron in the face. So it should've been an offensive foul.

antistrat wrote:There isn't a foul. LeBron touched the ball first, cleanly - without touching any other part of Curry - and then Curry hit LeBron in the face. Then after Curry knocked LeBron down, he fell on top of him.

I mean, this is a non-issue.


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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#130 » by Green89 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:21 pm

laploutocratie wrote:You really want to start this? Want to talk about all the bs that went the Warriors way?


More calls in last night's game favored a Cavs win. That foul when Curry was knocked down was a crucial point in the game where the Warriors were making a comeback. Massive momentum change. Any other player in the league takes out Curry like that, it's a foul.

Name one other call that went the Warriors way that was as crucial to the game. And I won't even get into the Klay Thompson out of bounds play when they would have had possession only down 3.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#131 » by LesGrossman » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:27 pm

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r3demption wrote:Because the refs cheat Lebron ! They give the warriors everything and never give the cavs anything !

...which is why the cavs shot 40 free throws, compared to 25 for the warriors. Wake up. NEVER has a Lebron team not been favored by the officiating since he first stepped on an NBA floor. Its part of the agenda. Lebron himself in particular can commit murder on offense and not be called for it, but at times they let him get away with that kind of "defense" and praise how he covers everyone from 1 to 5 afterwards. Do you remember how he TRIED to give a foul vs. the Bulls (which was a mistake since they had none to give) and hacked D-Rose in front of the ref and still no call? Or the legendary no call when he hacked Paul George? There will be bad calls and statistically they will evenly distribute but when one guy gets away with it all the time (18 games without a single foul called on him?) its gettin a bit obvious.

Didn't Lebron's Miami team have the least amount of free throws all time in a game 7 series. As in, the least free throws of a 7 game playoff series every played.Yeah that did actually, but yeah, sure Lebron gets favoured by the refs.

I know you love the man but you still could at least read what i wrote before coming up with that. I explained how he never gets called for fouls. What do free throws have to do with that? Both teams can have zero free throws and my statement is still perfectly valid. How many games in a row did he not get called for a foul while playing in Miami? Did he not foul KD, Paul George, Paul Pierce, Derrick Rose and today Steph Curry on crucial end-of-game plays? Ah okay then.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#132 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:29 pm

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Jkam31 wrote:I've seen you state this multiple times like it makes sense or something. It doesn't matter if curry had the ball the possession was in GS hands the defender can't knock someone over no matter how much ball he has. How someone can see that and think it's not a fouls is mind boggling.


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You can say it's mind boggling that they don't call it, but they really don't.


First Curry was dribbling the basketball.
Second even if Curry had lost control of the ball what LeBron did is comparable to an over the back foul in rebounding. LeBron made contact with Curry and knocked Curry away from the ball before LeBron ever touched the ball.

Had LeBron managed to slide by Curry without hitting him and get a hand on the ball that would have been a very impressive and legitimate play by LeBron but that is not what happened.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#133 » by JNelson43 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:05 pm

It was a really, really clear foul. Any Cavs fan who acts like they wouldn't be upset if a no-call like that one went against them is fooling themselves or lying. It was a terrible no-call.

With that said, Warriors fans don't really have a case for biased officiating. The end of game 2 being one of the more obvious examples of bad officiating going against the Cavs.

I don't think either side could make a convincing case of officiating bias, the officials have had a tough series.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#134 » by Yoshun » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:12 pm

How is this NOT a foul? He basically just dives right into him. I couldn't believe they didn't call it. At least they overturned the out of bounds call to the Cav's favor.

The officiating has just been awful in this series. The final 2 minutes of these games have been a free for all.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#135 » by gom » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:33 pm

It doesn't matter if it's a foul if it doesn't get called. That's not why Cleveland is winning however. Golden State is playing these finals like they are waiting to be anointed champions, as if it's some kind of coronation and all they have to do is show up. You can't play one quarter of basketball (and even so not get the critical stops to win) and expect to win the NBA finals. I intensely dislike the Cavs, but James needs to be given credit for what he's done. They are halfway to an NBA championship with some of their best players out and taking on a steamroller. Concentrating on the friendly whistle misses the point. James tossed up an ugly ball and make an incredible effort (especially considering he rests only two minutes a game) to get down the court and get the ball back. Of course the refs are going to give it to him if there's any doubt at all (ok, even if there isn't).

He just wants it more.

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Post#136 » by zimpy27 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:38 pm

It was a foul

There were many fouls that went uncalled.
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Post#137 » by Fico92 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:40 pm

LesGrossman wrote:So according to some totally not homering guys, you can dive into the legs of a player if he does not have control over the ball? What about your cylinder, does that matter a bit? Or else i've been watching the wrong sport all the years...
smh guys REALLY go out of their way to deny LBJ gets very special treatment.

Where was the special treatment at the end of game 2 when the nba admitted it missed fouls committed on LeBron and Cavs...? Also, that Curry didn't complain means he knows it wasn't a foul...
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#138 » by RIP Kobe » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:59 pm

A lot of people ITT don't know basketball rules. Not surprised as they're probably lebron fans from 2010 the decision.

That was 100% a foul. lol @ "he hit the ball first"

So I can steal the ball from a player then punch him in the face so I have a clear basket to the rim? "I hit the ball first ref!!!"

No.
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Post#139 » by oikosnomos » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:05 pm

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pelifan wrote:he clearly fumbled before the tackle. 15 yard penalty but still 1st down cle


Did not fumble, LeBron got a little hand on the ball one tenth of a second before he barreled into him at full speed. That is a foul my friend.


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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#140 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:12 pm

teleblaze wrote:hit the ball 1st



So its a loose ball foul? If I tap the ball away from you and then throw you to the ground and pick it up while we both scramble for the ball, its still a foul

That play was the most blatant foul I've seen the whole game, Lebron literally slide tackled Curry :lol: . Was shocked it wasn't called
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