#27 #34 Draft Picks Discussion

[LApwnd]

am i really overvaluing randle and clarkson THAT much? lol....i mean the way i look at it randle is a 5/6 talent in either draft and clarkson is a very good player

we obviously have bias towards our own guys so obviously I agree with you, but since the rhetoric right now is that this is a top 4 talent draft everybody is gona rate picks 3/4 very highly and you just know the comments and response have little hatred biased towards all things Lakers anyways they just don't want to admit it. Even if Clarkson won ROY, those poster would still find ways to devalue him

[TyCobb]

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/ ... ew/124066/

My mock draft

[dockingsched]

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/ ... ew/124066/

My mock draft

am i reading that right, you think looney will drop to 25th? don't think i've seen any mocks with him that low.

[DadoTheRabbet]

am i really overvaluing randle and clarkson THAT much?

Yes.

Look, I am a FAN of Clarkson's. He is the steal of the 2014 draft and he's fantastic... for a 47th pick. Is he elite? Not by a Long way.

He is, probably, our only tradeable asset though because no sane GM is going to trade much for Randle until he actually proves something, anything, in the NBA. You may be high on him. I never was. Neither opinion matters. The league has seen 14 minutes of him.

Randle, Clarkson, 27 and 34 MIGHT buy you something in the mid to late teens. On a good day.

[Slava]

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/ ... ew/124066/

My mock draft

Yeah I agree with everything else other than Looney unless his asthma issue is really worth dropping that far. I like where you put Sam Dekker & Lyles, also like where you have Devin Booker. If not Utah he is dropping out of the lottery imo.

[TyCobb]

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/ ... ew/124066/

My mock draft

am i reading that right, you think looney will drop to 25th? don't think i've seen any mocks with him that low.

Should I put 1.0 like everyone else?

After further investigation, it looks like he doesn't even have a workout scheduled with the Grizzlies. That mock draft is what I think best fits are though.

Looks like Looney workouts are: " KL: So far, I’ve worked out for the Thunder, Suns, Jazz, and Pistons. Coming up, I’ve got the Hawks, Heat, Bucks, Raptors, Hornets, Celtics, and Knicks." http://www.hoopsrumors.com/kevon-looney

Also, a good interview with him on that site.

"ZL: What NBA player would you compare yourself to?

KL: I don’t know if I’m all that similar to anyone but I can tell you that I try to play like Anthony Davis and LaMarcus Aldridge. I don’t know if I’m exactly like them but I’m trying to be [laughs]."

[TyCobb]

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/ ... ew/124066/

My mock draft

Yeah I agree with everything else other than Looney unless his asthma issue is really worth dropping that far. I like where you put Sam Dekker & Lyles, also like where you have Devin Booker. If not Utah he is dropping out of the lottery imo.

Thanks man. That mock draft is strictly who I think is the best fit, and we both know that it clearly differentiates from my actual big board.

[kblo247]

Looney seems to have shown red flags solely because he is too slow at SF and too weak at PF. The asthma is a concern I've read in multiple reports too. I think Boston takes him to replace bass personally but that's just me

[Sofa King]

2. Los Angeles Lakers - Jahlil Okafor, C, Duke

The fit here isn't perfect. In Okafor and Julius Randle, last year's No. 7 overall pick, the Lakers' young frontcourt will lack interior defense and perimeter shooting. But Okafor is such a polished post scorer that it's very difficult to pass on him at No. 2.

The Lakers are going to hope that many of Okafor's defensive issues at Duke stemmed from wanting to avoid foul trouble. His poor free throw shooting (51 percent) might be even harder to correct. Still, with long arms (7'6 wingspan) and incredible touch around the rim, Okafor should be able to score with his back to the basket from Day 1. The Lakers have had a long line of great centers, and Okafor should be next in that lineage.

27. Los Angeles Lakers - J.P. Tokoto, SF, North Carolina

The Lakers had the second worst defense in the NBA last season, so a hyper-athletic wing like Tokoto could help. Tokoto isn't a confident shooter, but he could project as a lockdown wing defender. With pick No. 27, that probably sounds like a deal to Los Angeles.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/6/11/8 ... ork-knicks

[ArC_man]

Don't like Tokoto at all with the #27. He's gonna be there in the 2nd round for sure.

[jirojan]

am i really overvaluing randle and clarkson THAT much?

Yes.

Look, I am a FAN of Clarkson's. He is the steal of the 2014 draft and he's fantastic... for a 47th pick. Is he elite? Not by a Long way.

He is, probably, our only tradeable asset though because no sane GM is going to trade much for Randle until he actually proves something, anything, in the NBA. You may be high on him. I never was. Neither opinion matters. The league has seen 14 minutes of him.

Randle, Clarkson, 27 and 34 MIGHT buy you something in the mid to late teens. On a good day.

your seriously underrating them if thats the case lol

[CALIKAOS]

locking in on Okafor

[DadoTheRabbet]

am i really overvaluing randle and clarkson THAT much?

Yes.

Look, I am a FAN of Clarkson's. He is the steal of the 2014 draft and he's fantastic... for a 47th pick. Is he elite? Not by a Long way.

He is, probably, our only tradeable asset though because no sane GM is going to trade much for Randle until he actually proves something, anything, in the NBA. You may be high on him. I never was. Neither opinion matters. The league has seen 14 minutes of him.

Randle, Clarkson, 27 and 34 MIGHT buy you something in the mid to late teens. On a good day.

your seriously underrating them if thats the case lol

Well, friend, I presented the facts to back up my statement.

Clarkson did exceptionally well ON A BAD TEAM last year. Randle has shown NOTHING to NBA GMs aside from 14 minutes.

And, I did it without being personally insulting. (You might want to try that.)

Now, what REASONING, exactly do you have to support your claim?

[jirojan]

Yes.

Look, I am a FAN of Clarkson's. He is the steal of the 2014 draft and he's fantastic... for a 47th pick. Is he elite? Not by a Long way.

He is, probably, our only tradeable asset though because no sane GM is going to trade much for Randle until he actually proves something, anything, in the NBA. You may be high on him. I never was. Neither opinion matters. The league has seen 14 minutes of him.

Randle, Clarkson, 27 and 34 MIGHT buy you something in the mid to late teens. On a good day.

your seriously underrating them if thats the case lol

Well, friend, I presented the facts to back up my statement.

Clarkson did exceptionally well ON A BAD TEAM last year. Randle has shown NOTHING to NBA GMs aside from 14 minutes.

And, I did it without being personally insulting. (You might want to try that.)

Now, what REASONING, exactly do you have to support your claim?

didnt mean to offend you man lol...so what your trying to tell me is that a mid lottery pick from last year with alot of promise + a top 5 rookie will land you a late lottery pick at best? i strongly disagree with you.

[oneseven]

There's only one player in last year's draft taken after Randle that I would've been happy with LA taking... Payton who went 10th. But if Payton had gone 7 to LA, then there'd probably be no Clarkson drafted, so I'm very satisfied with last year's draft (with the feeling Randle will still become worthy of his pick).

[LApwnd]

There's only one player in last year's draft taken after Randle that I would've been happy with LA taking... Payton who went 10th. But if Payton had gone 7 to LA, then there'd probably be no Clarkson drafted, so I'm very satisfied with last year's draft (with the feeling Randle will still become worthy of his pick).

based on this years mocks, there's only 1 guy that goes after 7th that I would be interested in and its Mario but I think wings are the most plentiful in this league to find. Only way Mario does more than Randle is if he's really good defensively as well otherwise I see no use to trading Randle even with the potential bad pairing with Ok4.

[DadoTheRabbet]

your seriously underrating them if thats the case lol

Well, friend, I presented the facts to back up my statement.

Clarkson did exceptionally well ON A BAD TEAM last year. Randle has shown NOTHING to NBA GMs aside from 14 minutes.

And, I did it without being personally insulting. (You might want to try that.)

Now, what REASONING, exactly do you have to support your claim?

didnt mean to offend you man lol...so what your trying to tell me is that a mid lottery pick from last year with alot of promise + a top 5 rookie will land you a late lottery pick at best? i strongly disagree with you.

And so your reasoning is based on the concept of promise and doing well on a bad team. Sorry. That just sounds rather like wishful thinking.

[dockingsched]

Yes.

Look, I am a FAN of Clarkson's. He is the steal of the 2014 draft and he's fantastic... for a 47th pick. Is he elite? Not by a Long way.

He is, probably, our only tradeable asset though because no sane GM is going to trade much for Randle until he actually proves something, anything, in the NBA. You may be high on him. I never was. Neither opinion matters. The league has seen 14 minutes of him.

Randle, Clarkson, 27 and 34 MIGHT buy you something in the mid to late teens. On a good day.

your seriously underrating them if thats the case lol

Well, friend, I presented the facts to back up my statement.

Clarkson did exceptionally well ON A BAD TEAM last year. Randle has shown NOTHING to NBA GMs aside from 14 minutes.

And, I did it without being personally insulting. (You might want to try that.)

Now, what REASONING, exactly do you have to support your claim?

Wait, you're reasoning that Randle, a 7th pick in a much deeper draft, isn't even worth a middle first round pick this year is that he hasn't proven anything, because a middle first round pick has proven what exactly?

This has gotta be the worst reasoned post possible

[digcom99]

your seriously underrating them if thats the case lol

Well, friend, I presented the facts to back up my statement.

Clarkson did exceptionally well ON A BAD TEAM last year. Randle has shown NOTHING to NBA GMs aside from 14 minutes.

And, I did it without being personally insulting. (You might want to try that.)

Now, what REASONING, exactly do you have to support your claim?

Wait, you're reasoning that Randle, a 7th pick in a much deeper draft, isn't even worth a middle first round pick this year is that he hasn't proven anything, because a middle first round pick has proven what exactly?

This has gotta be the worst reasoned post possible

this is exactly what i was thinking. everyone in this year's draft is picked based on their potential (they've proven absolutely nothing, just like randle).

so saying randle (#7 pick), clarkson (1st all rookie team), 27 and 34 might get a mid to late teens pick makes absolutely no sense at all. that is a huge overpayment for a middle first rounder that has played zero minutes in the nba (and someone who has over a dozen players picked ahead of him too).

[dipstick]

Well, friend, I presented the facts to back up my statement.

Clarkson did exceptionally well ON A BAD TEAM last year. Randle has shown NOTHING to NBA GMs aside from 14 minutes.

And, I did it without being personally insulting. (You might want to try that.)

Now, what REASONING, exactly do you have to support your claim?

Wait, you're reasoning that Randle, a 7th pick in a much deeper draft, isn't even worth a middle first round pick this year is that he hasn't proven anything, because a middle first round pick has proven what exactly?

This has gotta be the worst reasoned post possible

this is exactly what i was thinking. everyone in this year's draft is picked based on their potential (they've proven absolutely nothing, just like randle).

so saying randle (#7 pick), clarkson (1st all rookie team), 27 and 34 might get a mid to late teens pick makes absolutely no sense at all. that is a huge overpayment for a middle first rounder that has played zero minutes in the nba (and someone who has over a dozen players picked ahead of him too).

Have to agree with this too. Your reasoning is Randle has not proven anything. The middle teens pick has proven less. Randle at least was one of the best college players of his batch. But due to injury, I can concede that Randle for a middle teens pick may be (I personally wouldn't find it so) acceptable.

But adding Clarkson, who has proven something and is 1st team rookie team is crazy. Yes not elite but he has proven that he should have been worthy of being a first rounder. Adding the 27th and 34th even more insane. The Lakers would be out of their minds to do it and any GM in the league would agree to that deal it in a split second.

Again, reasoning is Randle is unproven, 27th is unproven, 34th is unproven but Clarkson is somewhat proven. Mid teens pick definitely not proven. So a good day for us is to trade a 7th pick though unproven, 2 more unproven and 1 all rookie team member for 1 unproven non-lottery pick? Sorry but this boggles the mind.