The #2 Pick

[Pointgod]

Probably wants LA or NY only.

Deal with the Knicks? Pick Russell at #2 and trade with the Knicks Okafor at #4, Hardaway Jr and future 2nd rounder. The Sixers wouldn't dare take Okafor at 3 and if they did we'd have more leverage with them to get Russell. Or we could just keep Russell. Either way I like the gambit.

How does that make any sense? They're only making a deal with Russell because Okafor's not going to be available.

Well if the Knicks value Russell higher than they value Okafor it makes a lot of sense. Especially since they've been heavily tied to Greg Monroe during free agency.

[reds622]

Deal with the Knicks? Pick Russell at #2 and trade with the Knicks Okafor at #4, Hardaway Jr and future 2nd rounder. The Sixers wouldn't dare take Okafor at 3 and if they did we'd have more leverage with them to get Russell. Or we could just keep Russell. Either way I like the gambit.

How does that make any sense? They're only making a deal with Russell because Okafor's not going to be available.

Well if the Knicks value Russell higher than they value Okafor it makes a lot of sense. Especially since they've been heavily tied to Greg Monroe during free agency.

Could it also be that the Knicks value Russell AND Okafor higher than anything that might be available at #4? This is just pure speculation, obviously, but if the Lakers take Okafor, the Sixers take Russell. If the Lakers take Russell, then do the Sixers take Okafor? Doing a deal with the Lakers enables the Knicks to potentially get a player that wouldn't have been available if the Lakers took the player they wanted at #2 in Okafor.

However, there is always the risk that the Sixers go off the board and just take Okafor anyways (unlikely), or they trade down and a team takes Okafor at #3 (possible). In that scenario the Lakers would have to be comfortable keeping Russell, which is entirely possible.

[rzzzzz]

However, there is always the risk that the Sixers go off the board and just take Okafor anyways (unlikely), or they trade down and a team takes Okafor at #3 (possible). In that scenario the Lakers would have to be comfortable keeping Russell, which is entirely possible.

Hinkie is scouting Porzingis today. He'd take Okafor or Towns in a heartbeat. And if they're gone, he still could go for Mudiay. BPA.

[Ckay]

wut..
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[sixerhp3]

think this has just blown out of proportion.. The lakers could have made a promise, or the sixers may not want Russell at 3, but I almost guarantee Russell is actually not feeling well and or Hinkie wants to reschedule the workout in a few days. Russell would love to be a Sixer. He has been Liking pictures of him in Sixer uni's and spoke that he would like to play with Noel and Embiid as they all are friends and have potential to make something special.
Russell even favorited a pic of him on the sixers ONE DAY AGO on twitter so I don't think this is because he doesn't want to play for philly at all https://twitter.com/Dloading/favorites

[DEEP3CL]

I think the knicks have committed to picking him and told them so that he could cancel on Philly and try to drop.

I don't know, this appears very similar to the Bynum pick in 2005. Russell has not worked out for Wolves either and it is scheduled for 18th.

He didn't have to go to Minnesota for Flip to see him work out. The supposed rumor is that Flip saw KAT and DR in Thousand Oaks last week.

[DEEP3CL]

LMAO....too many guys over thinking all this crap, there won't be any trades with the Knicks or Philly. The Lakers will control and decide their own destiny. Why would the Lakers even trade the pick if a proven veteran all star isn't coming back ?

Last I looked NY nor Philly has that to offer in return.

[crazyeights]

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2015/6/12/8774667/kristaps-porzingis-la-lakers-favorite-team-nba-draft-2015

Porzingis looks like a baller to me. Smoother athlete than I thought, and his wingspan looks crazy. I see why Draft Net gave him a 10 for size.

If Flip goes for Okafor, I think you have to at least consider him along with Towns and Russell.

Man, I hope our scouts have a good beat on these guys....The lack of a clearcut 1 or even 2 in this draft is crazy. Wish we had multiple lottery picks. #optionality.

[DEEP3CL]

Porzingis looks like a baller to me. Smoother athlete than I thought, and his wingspan looks crazy. I see why Draft Net gave him a 10 for size.

If Flip goes for Okafor, I think you have to at least consider him along with Towns and Russell.

Man, I hope our scouts have a good beat on these guys....The lack of a clearcut 1 or even 2 in this draft is crazy. Wish we had multiple lottery picks. #optionality.

I don't think it's a lack of a clear cut #1 crazyeights....at least in my opinion, it's that the agents have figured out more than ever on how to control this draft process now. They dictate workouts from every aspect to when, what time, what location and who can be present. They run the show, and the media and average fans don't know how to deal with it other than to just speculate outrageous trade concepts and conspiracies.

Agents and shoe companies to a degree will dictate where their client plays, they're the ones who float whatever information the media gets. But when I see chumps like Chad Ford or Sheridan trying to predict what players are on teams draft boards I bust out laughing, they have no way in hell in knowing this information....yet they continue to speculate.

My thinking has always been this...if we draft Okafor or Towns, this means we'll search for guards in free agency. If we draft Russell or Mudiay, means the team will search for bigs in free agency....and they better have a damn good plan in place for that one or else we'll be for a decade long rebuild.

[EArl]

Porzingis looks like a baller to me. Smoother athlete than I thought, and his wingspan looks crazy. I see why Draft Net gave him a 10 for size.

If Flip goes for Okafor, I think you have to at least consider him along with Towns and Russell.

Man, I hope our scouts have a good beat on these guys....The lack of a clearcut 1 or even 2 in this draft is crazy. Wish we had multiple lottery picks. #optionality.

I don't think it's a lack of a clear cut #1 crazyeights....at least in my opinion, it's that the agents have figured out more than ever on how to control this draft process now. They dictate workouts from every aspect to when, what time, what location and who can be present. They run the show, and the media and average fans don't know how to deal with it other than to just speculate outrageous trade concepts and conspiracies.

Agents and shoe companies to a degree will dictate where their client plays, they're the ones who float whatever information the media gets. But when I see chumps like Chad Ford or Sheridan trying to predict what players are on teams draft boards I bust out laughing, they have no way in hell in know this information....yet they continue to speculate.

My thinking has always been this...if we draft Okafor or Towns, this means we'll search for guards in free agency. If we draft Russell or Mudiay, means the team will search for bigs in free agency....and they better have a damn good plan in place for that one or else we'll be for a decade long rebuild.

I feel like they should change this and make it mandatory for all players to attend workouts to a certain degree obviously. the media is annoying as ****.

[crazyeights]

Porzingis looks like a baller to me. Smoother athlete than I thought, and his wingspan looks crazy. I see why Draft Net gave him a 10 for size.

If Flip goes for Okafor, I think you have to at least consider him along with Towns and Russell.

Man, I hope our scouts have a good beat on these guys....The lack of a clearcut 1 or even 2 in this draft is crazy. Wish we had multiple lottery picks. #optionality.

I don't think it's a lack of a clear cut #1 crazyeights....at least in my opinion, it's that the agents have figured out more than ever on how to control this draft process now. They dictate workouts from every aspect to when, what time, what location and who can be present. They run the show, and the media and average fans don't know how to deal with it other than to just speculate outrageous trade concepts and conspiracies.

Agents and shoe companies to a degree will dictate where their client plays, they're the ones who float whatever information the media gets. But when I see chumps like Chad Ford or Sheridan trying to predict what players are on teams draft boards I bust out laughing, they have no way in hell in knowing this information....yet they continue to speculate.

My thinking has always been this...if we draft Okafor or Towns, this means we'll search for guards in free agency. If we draft Russell or Mudiay, means the team will search for bigs in free agency....and they better have a damn good plan in place for that one or else we'll be for a decade long rebuild.

This is true, but it still doesn't mean Mitch is done evaluating these players. It was him and 5 other FO staffers at this workout. If it's as easy as Okafor and Towns, then why bring that much staff? For weeks I've heard Mitch go out of his way to mention "the 2 players from Europe" as potentials.

Would Porzingis have to really wow them to gain an edge on Towns or Okafor? Absolutely, but that's exactly what makes it not clearcut. Porzingis is actually a 7 footer, unlike the other bigs at the top of the draft. In that workout his shooting looks on par or better than Towns, especially because they're not flatfooted shots.

His athleticism looked surprising to me, his head was at the rim in most of those dunks. He's more spry than a guy like Pau. Skinny, but spry.

I trust Mitch's judgement, but until we make a pick, I'm going to wish I had access to all the scouting reports he's had.

[Dr Aki]

what is this drama?

[LApwnd]

If its really dlo @2 i hope we take a chance on upshaw @ 27th....f it go big right?

[magicbesteva]

Porzingis looked really impressive. Maybe Russell did get a promise for the Lakers? I mean Hinkie was in Vegas that could be saying a lot.

[kblo247]

Jahlil Okafor is with the same agent (Bill Duffy) as Goran Dragic, Danny Green, & Rajon Rondo. You draft him and you work out how to split up that pie with 2 of his other clients imo. 15 for the Dragon leaves about 7 or more for Green if you shed Kelly and/or Sacre

Likewise even if he ain't my fave, and they see something in Russell that they like, CAA better hook us the **** up with a big. I mean I want Deandre, Marc, or Aldridge. Hell at the very least Hibbert and a guy like Carol or Tobias and Tyson. I want some hook ups damn it

[kblo247]

Proz remind me of KVH with the athleticism before he hurt his back in NY. KVH was spry as **** and finished on that break hard alongside MArtin, Jefferso, Kittles, and Kidd in Jersey

[DEEP3CL]

If its really dlo @2 i hope we take a chance on upshaw @ 27th....f it go big right?

Upshaw just caught some type of drug charge and he was red flagged with a heart issue. You gotta know this ain't happen'in right ?

[DEEP3CL]

Porzingis looks like a baller to me. Smoother athlete than I thought, and his wingspan looks crazy. I see why Draft Net gave him a 10 for size.

If Flip goes for Okafor, I think you have to at least consider him along with Towns and Russell.

Man, I hope our scouts have a good beat on these guys....The lack of a clearcut 1 or even 2 in this draft is crazy. Wish we had multiple lottery picks. #optionality.

I don't think it's a lack of a clear cut #1 crazyeights....at least in my opinion, it's that the agents have figured out more than ever on how to control this draft process now. They dictate workouts from every aspect to when, what time, what location and who can be present. They run the show, and the media and average fans don't know how to deal with it other than to just speculate outrageous trade concepts and conspiracies.

Agents and shoe companies to a degree will dictate where their client plays, they're the ones who float whatever information the media gets. But when I see chumps like Chad Ford or Sheridan trying to predict what players are on teams draft boards I bust out laughing, they have no way in hell in knowing this information....yet they continue to speculate.

My thinking has always been this...if we draft Okafor or Towns, this means we'll search for guards in free agency. If we draft Russell or Mudiay, means the team will search for bigs in free agency....and they better have a damn good plan in place for that one or else we'll be for a decade long rebuild.

This is true, but it still doesn't mean Mitch is done evaluating these players. It was him and 5 other FO staffers at this workout. If it's as easy as Okafor and Towns, then why bring that much staff? For weeks I've heard Mitch go out of his way to mention "the 2 players from Europe" as potentials.

Would Porzingis have to really wow them to gain an edge on Towns or Okafor? Absolutely, but that's exactly what makes it not clearcut. Porzingis is actually a 7 footer, unlike the other bigs at the top of the draft. In that workout his shooting looks on par or better than Towns, especially because they're not flatfooted shots.

His athleticism looked surprising to me, his head was at the rim in most of those dunks. He's more spry than a guy like Pau. Skinny, but spry.

I trust Mitch's judgement, but until we make a pick, I'm going to wish I had access to all the scouting reports he's had.

Well I wasn't really talking about Porzingis, I was talking about the process as a whole in terms of workouts and how the process is dominated by the agents and shoe reps.

In terms of Porzingis...Mitch has got to know the fan base isn't going for that. An unknown product that you can't market and who knows how long before the kid develops ? That ship has sailed....who was the last Euro player that just ripped the league ?

If that's his plan...I mean it's already hard enough to even imagining that he would take a guard, when two franchise type bigs can help build up this team a lot faster.

[LApwnd]

If its really dlo @2 i hope we take a chance on upshaw @ 27th....f it go big right?

Upshaw just caught some type of drug charge and he was red flagged with a heart issue. You gotta know this ain't happen'in right ?

Where you getting all this from? All I've read is he has drug related issues thats why he got dismissed from both schools...so he got caught was drugs recently?

[DEEP3CL]

If its really dlo @2 i hope we take a chance on upshaw @ 27th....f it go big right?

Upshaw just caught some type of drug charge and he was red flagged with a heart issue. You gotta know this ain't happen'in right ?

Where you getting all this from? All I've read is he has drug related issues thats why he got dismissed from both schools...so he got caught was drugs recently?

Drug stuff may be old...but the heart issue just popped up when he went to the combine. Regardless he may have a lot of raw talent, but prior drug issues and physical ailments is just a red flag no matter how you look at it.