Is Klay Thompson overrated?

[likashing]

Since rating the best 2 guards is too many "qualifiers" in some peoples eyes, let's just rank the best wings in the NBA, 2 or 3.

1. Lebron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. James Harden
5. Klay Thompson

Any beef with that top 5? Don't even start with the black hole that is Carmelo Anthony. He's a less efficient scorer than Klay at this point in his career and plays no defense. Klay has surpassed him.

i would like to see the anti-klay guys' arguments against this. that's a pretty elite list in the nba today.

First you left out Paul George. Second, wherever Klay is on that list, you might as well put Klay/Draymond because Green will play SF on most other teams and it is not even clear whether Klay is the top wing on his own team.

Did you see Butler defend Lebron? Klay is lucky to be on the same team as Draymond and Iguodala.

Klay is not on that top 5 list.l if you did not forget Paul George. And the drop off is HUGE after those 5. Those 5 are bona fide franchise players. Alpha dogs. Then the likes of Klay, Draymond, Butler etc come in. Even people argue Beal is better/worse than Klay. That's the company Klay is in, not the likes of Lebron or George or Durant.

Good try on trying to reach a false conclusion that Klay is in that company with that list. Exact evidence on why I think Klay is overrated by you guys. Same list with Lebron, Durant, Harden, Leonard, and ignores George? GTFO. Just admit you are a fanboi.

[FNQ]

Since rating the best 2 guards is too many "qualifiers" in some peoples eyes, let's just rank the best wings in the NBA, 2 or 3.

1. Lebron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. James Harden
5. Klay Thompson

Any beef with that top 5? Don't even start with the black hole that is Carmelo Anthony. He's a less efficient scorer than Klay at this point in his career and plays no defense. Klay has surpassed him.

i would like to see the anti-klay guys' arguments against this. that's a pretty elite list in the nba today.

First you left out Paul George. Second, wherever Klay is on that list, you might as well put Klay/Draymond because Green will play SF on most other teams and it is not even clear whether Klay is the top wing on his own team.

Did you see Butler defend Lebron? Klay is lucky to be on the same team as Draymond and Iguodala.

Klay is not on that top 5 list.l if you did not forget Paul George. And the drop off is HUGE after those 5. Those 5 are bona fide franchise players. Alpha dogs. Then the likes of Klay, Draymond, Butler etc come in. Even people argue Beal is better/worse than Klay. That's the company Klay is in, not the likes of Lebron or George or Durant.

Good try on trying to reach a false conclusion that Klay is in that company with that list. Exact evidence on why I think Klay is overrated by you guys. Same list with Lebron, Durant, Harden, Leonard, and ignores George? GTFO. Just admit you are a fanboi.

There is a significant drop-off from George to Klay, starting a new tier. Happens at every position. Being top of the class in tier 2 is nothing to sneeze at, and is right in the all-star range. That doesn't mean that the one person arguing for Beal over Klay means something though. We had one person arguing that Barnes was more valuable than Iguodala and Draymond, so doesn't really hold water. Seems like he's in the argument, especially with severe injuries to Durant and George.

But to imply that Klay might not be the best wing on this team? That's much more of an extreme statement than anyone pimping Klay has ever made.

[likashing]

i would like to see the anti-klay guys' arguments against this. that's a pretty elite list in the nba today.

First you left out Paul George. Second, wherever Klay is on that list, you might as well put Klay/Draymond because Green will play SF on most other teams and it is not even clear whether Klay is the top wing on his own team.

Did you see Butler defend Lebron? Klay is lucky to be on the same team as Draymond and Iguodala.

Klay is not on that top 5 list.l if you did not forget Paul George. And the drop off is HUGE after those 5. Those 5 are bona fide franchise players. Alpha dogs. Then the likes of Klay, Draymond, Butler etc come in. Even people argue Beal is better/worse than Klay. That's the company Klay is in, not the likes of Lebron or George or Durant.

Good try on trying to reach a false conclusion that Klay is in that company with that list. Exact evidence on why I think Klay is overrated by you guys. Same list with Lebron, Durant, Harden, Leonard, and ignores George? GTFO. Just admit you are a fanboi.

There is a significant drop-off from George to Klay, starting a new tier. Happens at every position. Being top of the class in tier 2 is nothing to sneeze at, and is right in the all-star range. That doesn't mean that the one person arguing for Beal over Klay means something though. We had one person arguing that Barnes was more valuable than Iguodala and Draymond, so doesn't really hold water. Seems like he's in the argument, especially with severe injuries to Durant and George.

But to imply that Klay might not be the best wing on this team? That's much more of an extreme statement than anyone pimping Klay has ever made.

I never said Klay isn't a top SG, I was just amazed on the dude creating the Lebron list to make Klay look like more than he actually is. That's overrating. That's what this thread's discussion is about, right?

[FNQ]

Well you'd conceivably put Klay 6th on that list, right? Put Paul George in, and then there' probably be a sizeable chunk - maybe a majority - of basketball fans that put Klay as #6... the point being that Klay is among the best wings out there. He doesn't have to be in the tip-top tier for him to still be a great player. Really, there's a sizeable gap between #1 and #2, and #2 and #3 as well. It's an insult to the likely GOAT that Durant is being mentioned next to him, and its an insult to Durant to have Kawhi right behind him. But there's always a next best, and since we're talking about Klay, he'd definitely be on the list. I find it hard to believe he'd be off anyone's top 10 wing list. It's hard to overrate those types unless you're calling them superstars, and I haven't seen anyone do that.

Ultimately this thread is someone thinking Klay isn't that great.. well the #s are lying then. So is Jerry West, so are the Warriors to the Wolves, so is everyone who voted in the ASG. He catches more crap than anyone I've seen here since Dunleavy, and he's our 2nd best player.

[JimmyTD3]

It's getting really hard to read this forum.

Really hard.

[Bandito]

Forgot about George. That can happen when a guy doesn't play all season, just an oversight.

Still a top 6 wing. I only made that list to fit likashing's "qualifiers" bench mark to show Klay is a worthy all star caliber player, and not overrated. His argument has been reduced to repeatedly calling me a fanboy. Good stuff.

[Bandito]

First you left out Paul George. Second, wherever Klay is on that list, you might as well put Klay/Draymond because Green will play SF on most other teams and it is not even clear whether Klay is the top wing on his own team.

Did you see Butler defend Lebron? Klay is lucky to be on the same team as Draymond and Iguodala.

Klay is not on that top 5 list.l if you did not forget Paul George. And the drop off is HUGE after those 5. Those 5 are bona fide franchise players. Alpha dogs. Then the likes of Klay, Draymond, Butler etc come in. Even people argue Beal is better/worse than Klay. That's the company Klay is in, not the likes of Lebron or George or Durant.

Good try on trying to reach a false conclusion that Klay is in that company with that list. Exact evidence on why I think Klay is overrated by you guys. Same list with Lebron, Durant, Harden, Leonard, and ignores George? GTFO. Just admit you are a fanboi.

There is a significant drop-off from George to Klay, starting a new tier. Happens at every position. Being top of the class in tier 2 is nothing to sneeze at, and is right in the all-star range. That doesn't mean that the one person arguing for Beal over Klay means something though. We had one person arguing that Barnes was more valuable than Iguodala and Draymond, so doesn't really hold water. Seems like he's in the argument, especially with severe injuries to Durant and George.

But to imply that Klay might not be the best wing on this team? That's much more of an extreme statement than anyone pimping Klay has ever made.

I never said Klay isn't a top SG, I was just amazed on the dude creating the Lebron list to make Klay look like more than he actually is. That's overrating. That's what this thread's discussion is about, right?

I made the list, because you yourself said ranking him among only SG's didn't prove anything because of the dearth of talent at the 2 in the NBA. He's a top 6 wing (was top 5 this season with George out). He's not Lebron or KD, but no one has ever put him at that level. Chill the **** out. A top 6 wing in the NBA is a legit all star talent, I'm not a fan boy for rating him that high, I'm a realistic fan who doesn't overreact based on a 9 point outing with terrific defense in a finals win.

[turk3d]

So this what it's all about? Only 9 pts in a 20 point win? I thought in some ways that this was a breakout game for Klay. Only took 9 shots (made 4 of them and as pointed out, played 39 minutes of stellar defense with 0 tos (one of his flaws at times). One of the things that I noted before the series even started: there were 4 2 guards that I thought that Klay had a real hard time defending, Harden, Crawford, Ginobili and JR Smith.

Well he's put one of those notions to rest so far this series as he's participating in the JR shutdown who has burned us many a time. Showed that he could help this team win without scoring. Looked very focused out there and well integrated to the team and seemed content to not have to play hero ball. Attitude (which sometimes looks suspect) look great out there last game and if he keeps it up spells trouble for the Cavs.

[HiRez]

Klay is also largely being guarded by Iman Shumpert in this series, which is a very tough position because Shumpert is one of the league's elite defenders.

[a8bil]

I find the unquestioned love of Paul George to be curious. He shoots 42% from the field and 36% from the 3 pt line, and he's less consistent as well. Our fans would skewer him if he actually played here and they actually had to watch him fire up and miss shots. His TS% has never been higher that what detractors want to label "bad" klay.

He's a better defender and rebounder than klay, but I take Klay's better shooting and scoring 8 out of 10 times.

[donalddole]

On this board Klay is underrated. Klay was a top 10 per 36 scorer (IIRC) on awesome percentages and efficiency and has a huge gravitational effect as well as ability to move off ball which warps a defense. His volume and efficiency numbers for a guy in his fourth year are most definitely all star worthy. He just plays In a conference with a lot of good guards.

Beal is not better at all. Dude takes really inefficient shots and despite his hype that he can, he hardly gets to the rim. I see wizards fans complain constantly about him and his propensity for long 2s. He also has one of the best passing PGs next to him and The Truth. Beal scores 16 pts per 36 with a PER of 14 and 52 TS%. Klay scores 24 pts per 36 has a PER of 20 and a 59 TS%. Beal actually is nowhere near as good as Klay (although some similar numbers to Klay lasts year). He has had some good post seasons but Barnes has too and he's nowhere near a top 5 SF.

I'd take Klay over Beal. But I think Klay benefits big time from playing with Curry in the backcourt. Just think about how much Beal would be better if Curry played with him.

Defense matters.....and when Curry landed on his head Klay went into torch mode.

This topic has jumped the shark and sounds like ESPN with east coast bias.

I have east coast bias because I think
- Klay is better
- Curry is so good Beal would look better playing with Curry

What?? Can you please clarify? I also live in the East Bay watching the warriors since the 80s.

[a8bil]

Since rating the best 2 guards is too many "qualifiers" in some peoples eyes, let's just rank the best wings in the NBA, 2 or 3.

1. Lebron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Kawhi Leonard
4. James Harden
5. Klay Thompson

Any beef with that top 5? Don't even start with the black hole that is Carmelo Anthony. He's a less efficient scorer than Klay at this point in his career and plays no defense. Klay has surpassed him.

i would like to see the anti-klay guys' arguments against this. that's a pretty elite list in the nba today.

First you left out Paul George. Second, wherever Klay is on that list, you might as well put Klay/Draymond because Green will play SF on most other teams and it is not even clear whether Klay is the top wing on his own team.

Did you see Butler defend Lebron? Klay is lucky to be on the same team as Draymond and Iguodala.

Klay is not on that top 5 list.l if you did not forget Paul George. And the drop off is HUGE after those 5. Those 5 are bona fide franchise players. Alpha dogs. Then the likes of Klay, Draymond, Butler etc come in. Even people argue Beal is better/worse than Klay. That's the company Klay is in, not the likes of Lebron or George or Durant.

Good try on trying to reach a false conclusion that Klay is in that company with that list. Exact evidence on why I think Klay is overrated by you guys. Same list with Lebron, Durant, Harden, Leonard, and ignores George? GTFO. Just admit you are a fanboi.

Paul George has never had a TS% over .555, and is a career 42% shooter overall and 36% from 3pt. How does that make him better than Klay? Seems worse than the "bad" Klay stats you always want to bash him for. Your double standards when it comes to klay is interesting. Did he steal your girlfriend, woody?

[likashing]

i would like to see the anti-klay guys' arguments against this. that's a pretty elite list in the nba today.

First you left out Paul George. Second, wherever Klay is on that list, you might as well put Klay/Draymond because Green will play SF on most other teams and it is not even clear whether Klay is the top wing on his own team.

Did you see Butler defend Lebron? Klay is lucky to be on the same team as Draymond and Iguodala.

Klay is not on that top 5 list.l if you did not forget Paul George. And the drop off is HUGE after those 5. Those 5 are bona fide franchise players. Alpha dogs. Then the likes of Klay, Draymond, Butler etc come in. Even people argue Beal is better/worse than Klay. That's the company Klay is in, not the likes of Lebron or George or Durant.

Good try on trying to reach a false conclusion that Klay is in that company with that list. Exact evidence on why I think Klay is overrated by you guys. Same list with Lebron, Durant, Harden, Leonard, and ignores George? GTFO. Just admit you are a fanboi.

Paul George has never had a TS% over .555, and is a career 42% shooter overall and 36% from 3pt. How does that make him better than Klay? Seems worse than the "bad" Klay stats you always want to bash him for. Your double standards when it comes to klay is interesting. Did he steal your girlfriend, woody?

Klay better than Paul George. Not overrated. 'Nuff said.

Oh and re: GF, nope, I don't share a pussy with Irving.

[a8bil]

First you left out Paul George. Second, wherever Klay is on that list, you might as well put Klay/Draymond because Green will play SF on most other teams and it is not even clear whether Klay is the top wing on his own team.

Did you see Butler defend Lebron? Klay is lucky to be on the same team as Draymond and Iguodala.

Klay is not on that top 5 list.l if you did not forget Paul George. And the drop off is HUGE after those 5. Those 5 are bona fide franchise players. Alpha dogs. Then the likes of Klay, Draymond, Butler etc come in. Even people argue Beal is better/worse than Klay. That's the company Klay is in, not the likes of Lebron or George or Durant.

Good try on trying to reach a false conclusion that Klay is in that company with that list. Exact evidence on why I think Klay is overrated by you guys. Same list with Lebron, Durant, Harden, Leonard, and ignores George? GTFO. Just admit you are a fanboi.

Paul George has never had a TS% over .555, and is a career 42% shooter overall and 36% from 3pt. How does that make him better than Klay? Seems worse than the "bad" Klay stats you always want to bash him for. Your double standards when it comes to klay is interesting. Did he steal your girlfriend, woody?

Klay better than Paul George. Not overrated. 'Nuff said.

Oh and re: GF, nope, I don't share a pussy with Irving.

You can't handle the truth, can you. Explain why Paul George is indisputably better than Klay, with worse shooting numbers across the board. Your dismissive response reflects your inability to defend your position. Nuff said.

[Frozzy]

I find the unquestioned love of Paul George to be curious. He shoots 42% from the field and 36% from the 3 pt line, and he's less consistent as well. Our fans would skewer him if he actually played here and they actually had to watch him fire up and miss shots. His TS% has never been higher that what detractors want to label "bad" klay.

He's a better defender and rebounder than klay, but I take Klay's better shooting and scoring 8 out of 10 times.

To be fair to Paul George. He doesn't have the supporting cast that Klay has and the Pacers also play at a ridiculously slow pace.

[Left*My*Heart]

In West I trust. Odd coming from me, but West feels extremely passionate about Klay and feels he still has a lot of room to grow. I don't think he is overrated, he is all star deserving and plays hard on both ends.


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[cpower]

i would like to see the anti-klay guys' arguments against this. that's a pretty elite list in the nba today.

First you left out Paul George. Second, wherever Klay is on that list, you might as well put Klay/Draymond because Green will play SF on most other teams and it is not even clear whether Klay is the top wing on his own team.

Did you see Butler defend Lebron? Klay is lucky to be on the same team as Draymond and Iguodala.

Klay is not on that top 5 list.l if you did not forget Paul George. And the drop off is HUGE after those 5. Those 5 are bona fide franchise players. Alpha dogs. Then the likes of Klay, Draymond, Butler etc come in. Even people argue Beal is better/worse than Klay. That's the company Klay is in, not the likes of Lebron or George or Durant.

Good try on trying to reach a false conclusion that Klay is in that company with that list. Exact evidence on why I think Klay is overrated by you guys. Same list with Lebron, Durant, Harden, Leonard, and ignores George? GTFO. Just admit you are a fanboi.

Paul George has never had a TS% over .555, and is a career 42% shooter overall and 36% from 3pt. How does that make him better than Klay? Seems worse than the "bad" Klay stats you always want to bash him for. Your double standards when it comes to klay is interesting. Did he steal your girlfriend, woody?

PG is first option, and Klay is not. That's a huge difference. Klay didn't really take advantage when Curry gets all double team treatment. I hope he gets better in the off season, he has been a very weak 3rd all NBA.

[lars_rosenberg]

Paul George is 10 times better than Klay, come on.

[cladden]

He's already better than Klay.

lol.

Horrid take. I wouldn't expect this from you. He's just not. At all. Beal has never hit 50% EFG, Klay's never been below. They are not comparable shooters even if Beal is alright. Klay is also a way better defender. Laughable. I'm kinda drunk right now. If you're joking then I'm sorry I didn't get it.

[likashing]

Paul George has never had a TS% over .555, and is a career 42% shooter overall and 36% from 3pt. How does that make him better than Klay? Seems worse than the "bad" Klay stats you always want to bash him for. Your double standards when it comes to klay is interesting. Did he steal your girlfriend, woody?

Klay better than Paul George. Not overrated. 'Nuff said.

Oh and re: GF, nope, I don't share a pussy with Irving.

You can't handle the truth, can you. Explain why Paul George is indisputably better than Klay, with worse shooting numbers across the board. Your dismissive response reflects your inability to defend your position. Nuff said.

**** man I don't even know where to start. George is a zillion times better than Klay. George was going to be the player his teammates look up to on Team USA before he got hurt. George can get shots himself and for his teammates. Defensively George can defend wings INCLUDING Lebron.

How about this. Can you find 5 other Klay fans on this thread who true heartedly think Klay is better than George?

Just come on out guys. Yell yes if you think Klay is a better player than George. Yell yes if you are building a team and you have them as the 2 choices, and you will pick Klay first!

I wonder who else agrees with you on Klay > George claim.